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Title: misting up inside & CC bulb
Post by: eddie on 12 February 2008, 00:17:08
Hi folks,just re-registered after 2 years in the cold. Here I am with a couple of Q's allready.

'99 pre-facelift cd.

Climate on/off switch,bulb has packed up,new switch or new bulb?

Serious misting up INSIDE over night in cold weather, after nice sunny day---blocked CC drain? Pollen filter box etc clean & dry. Not losing coolant.

Been through the forums but so far havn,t turned up anything.

eddie
Title: Re: misting up inside & CC bulb
Post by: Dazzler on 12 February 2008, 09:05:47
on/off switch will be the bulb. Change all 5 bulbs when you do ;)
Not sure about misting up, are the carpets dry? Are the sunroof drains clear? have you checked both scuttle drains are clear?
are you running a/c before you switch of engine?
Title: Re: misting up inside & CC bulb
Post by: Andy B on 12 February 2008, 09:09:56
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on/off switch will be the bulb. Change all 5 bulbs when you do ;)
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The 5 lamps mention are for the backlighting of the centre section of dash - the on/off lamp(led) is integral to the switch. You need another switch.
Title: Re: misting up inside & CC bulb
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 12 February 2008, 09:14:58
Can you describe exactly what switch you mean.....is it the LED on the climate panel, is it the back lgihting of the switches on the climate panel or is it the bulb in the ECO button?

As for misting.

1) Check the scuttle drain to ensure its clear so no water can get in.

2) Consider the fact that when you use the aircon setup you get moisture forming on the condensator. SOme of this will drip off and out the drain near the gearbox but, turn the car off and any left wil remain and can evaporate off into the cabin area.

A trick for getting around number 2 is to run the heater on max hot towards the screen for the last few miles of a journey to dry the condensator out.
Title: Re: misting up inside & CC bulb
Post by: eddie on 12 February 2008, 12:26:43
The bulb in question IS the ECO switch.So its a new switch then !!

Checked both scuttles,both clean and dry. There is no dampness in the carpets so its more than likely from the CC element in the heater assembly area collecting condenstae.

With the bulb in the switch gone the only way to tell if the CC is on/off is by listening for the fans cutting out.

thanks

eddie
Title: Re: misting up inside & CC bulb
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 12 February 2008, 13:03:39
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The bulb in question IS the ECO switch.So its a new switch then !!

Checked both scuttles,both clean and dry. There is no dampness in the carpets so its more than likely from the CC element in the heater assembly area collecting condenstae.

With the bulb in the switch gone the only way to tell if the CC is on/off is by listening for the fans cutting out.

thanks

eddie

You can open the switch and get replacement inserts with the two bulbs on from here:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vauxhall-Vectra-Omega-Switches-Replacement-Bulbs_W0QQitemZ370020388588QQihZ024QQcategoryZ10404QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Title: Re: misting up inside & CC bulb
Post by: dino on 12 February 2008, 17:42:39
Hi,

I know this doesn't help at all, but i have the same misting problem in mine, just put it down to the weather.
Title: Re: misting up inside & CC bulb
Post by: TheBoy on 12 February 2008, 20:45:26
also keep the osr cubby hole in boot clear, as this is where the exhaust vent is.
Title: Re: misting up inside & CC bulb
Post by: VX1 on 12 February 2008, 21:16:14
Also how old is the pollen filter? Had the same problem with my 2000 cd changed the pollen filter and it improved.

Paul  :y
Title: Re: misting up inside & CC bulb
Post by: HerefordElite on 12 February 2008, 21:40:34
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also keep the osr cubby hole in boot clear, as this is where the exhaust vent is.

 :-? where and what is the osr?

I have very misty car too - the cabin carpets are fine but the boot gets very wet (mould grows >:() what could cause this guys??? :-/

cheers :y :y
Title: Re: misting up inside & CC bulb
Post by: Entwood on 12 February 2008, 21:42:51
OSR = Off Side Rear

Just inside boot, drivers side, the little cubby hole on the right ... DON'T fill it with cloths, gloves, hats, scarves, paper etc etc  thats where the air exhaust is .. if the air can't escape then humidity builds up resulting in misting .. :(
Title: Re: misting up inside & CC bulb
Post by: HerefordElite on 12 February 2008, 21:52:14
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OSR = Off Side Rear

Just inside boot, drivers side, the little cubby hole on the right ... DON'T fill it with cloths, gloves, hats, scarves, paper etc etc  thats where the air exhaust is .. if the air can't escape then humidity builds up resulting in misting .. :(

as soon as i pressed post i read it and went dohhhhhhhhh :D

so the little cubby hole that i keep the first aid kit, jump leads, towing strap, carrier bags, spare bottle of water etc !!!!! ;D ;D ;D

on my way to the drive now :y

cheers Entwood and TheBoy  :y
Title: Re: misting up inside & CC bulb
Post by: amigov6 on 12 February 2008, 21:57:25
Mine suffers from inside misting. Worst @ bottom of rear screen, heated window clears it but comes back overnight. No mould thankfully. Windscreen get misty but clears quickly with blowers, no heated front screen only a CD.
      Pushed finger through holes under bonnet near bulkhead so why? ::)  No damp in boot or carpets anywhere....yet. :(
Title: Re: misting up inside & CC bulb
Post by: TheBoy on 12 February 2008, 22:08:14
dont get it in omega, but i sometimes have to put dehumidifyer in rover....
Title: Re: misting up inside & CC bulb
Post by: HerefordElite on 12 February 2008, 22:31:35
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OSR = Off Side Rear

Just inside boot, drivers side, the little cubby hole on the right ... DON'T fill it with cloths, gloves, hats, scarves, paper etc etc  thats where the air exhaust is .. if the air can't escape then humidity builds up resulting in misting .. :(

as soon as i pressed post i read it and went dohhhhhhhhh :D


so the little cubby hole that i keep the first aid kit, jump leads, towing strap, carrier bags, spare bottle of water etc !!!!! ;D ;D ;D

on my way to the drive now :y

cheers Entwood and TheBoy  :y


right cleared the cubby hole out i can't believe what a div i am  :D

new problem discovered :o :o :o

major rust on inside web of OSR wing where it SHOULD join the boot floor :o :o :o  :exclamation

is this terminal / dangerous  :'(  :question  :'(


Title: Re: misting up inside & CC bulb
Post by: Andy B on 13 February 2008, 04:58:01
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..... no heated front screen only a CD. .....

Vauxhall have never used heated front screen on any car - Omega included.
Title: Re: misting up inside & CC bulb
Post by: HerefordElite on 13 February 2008, 12:39:43
(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj210/jakeunderhill/DSC01387.jpg)[/img]

taken a  photo in the daylight - doesn't look like good news >:( :o :'( >:( :( :'(

what i thought was 'inner web' last night is actualy the panel and outer skin through the vent hole (one missing??) is the inside of the bumper.

any advice from the senior experts? TheBoy ? :question
Title: Re: misting up inside & CC bulb
Post by: Entwood on 13 February 2008, 18:05:58
That looks pretty wet top left ... do you have a leak of some sort that is

a) causing the tin rot in that area

b) probably the cause of the "misting up"

before fixing the problem... find the cause ... or it'll just happen again . :(
Title: Re: misting up inside & CC bulb
Post by: ians on 13 February 2008, 18:27:18
my Elite saloon mists up too although the cubby hole is empty.

try and figure out where that damp is coming from - maybe a drain is blocked somewhere.  I'd pour water on the rear corner of the roof and over the boot  (with it closed ;)) and see if it gets worse.
Title: Re: misting up inside & CC bulb
Post by: HerefordElite on 13 February 2008, 20:53:20
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That looks pretty wet top left ... do you have a leak of some sort that is

a) causing the tin rot in that area

b) probably the cause of the "misting up"

before fixing the problem... find the cause ... or it'll just happen again . :(

thanks Ent - i need to let it dry out with the boot open over the weekend to assess the damage too much condensation runing off everywhere at moment.

The boot floor has separated from wing the rusting is so bad :exclamation

not truely structural as not close enough to suspenion mounts but still worrying - don't think i'll tow the trailler down to the tip this weekend !!! ::)

should that second hole have a black plastic vent? i guess that it lets moisture/stale air out and doesn't let the rain in ?? :question

cheers guys

 :y
Title: Re: misting up inside & CC bulb
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 14 February 2008, 09:26:35
There should be a second vent in there and the vent has a one way valve type setup to stop moisture and road spray getting in.
Title: Re: misting up inside & CC bulb
Post by: HerefordElite on 14 February 2008, 11:40:35
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There should be a second vent in there and the vent has a one way valve type setup to stop moisture and road spray getting in.

anyone got a spare vent or two??? ;D :y :question
Title: Re: misting up inside & CC bulb
Post by: mkaminski100 on 14 February 2008, 11:51:20
First you have to clean it from the rust using steel brush. Then buy an anti-rust paint (spray or brush) put few layers and check from underneath as there might be same thing. If you wont clean it now, you will have an MOT problems.
As advised, check where the water is coming from. Clean everything, you may also put some paper towels to find out where the leakage starts.
It’s usually seal (saloons), joints problem underneath back window and vents.
Misting is usually because of jammed air filter. You can find advice on how to find it. How can you check is has to be replaced? Turn the fan on on position 2-3. Then unlock the filter and try to pull it downwards. If the suction makes you use a lot of force, filter needs to be changed.
I also found that even new filter blocks the air and as soon as fans are on 70% it’s hard to take the filter out.
I’ve taken the filter out ( I know the consequences) and now misting is gone.  
Title: Re: misting up inside & CC bulb
Post by: ians on 14 February 2008, 17:43:13
you mean blocked pollen filter I assume...

(mine is brand new and still get misting)
Title: Re: misting up inside & CC bulb
Post by: mkaminski100 on 15 February 2008, 12:05:55
Yes, the pollen filter. Turn the fan on (50-60%) and try to remove it. You will find how hard it is to take it out. I have taken my out to dry the car inside.
Many times the drain under the filter is blocked. Not the scuttle. Look at the bottom where the filter is mounted. You may find a lot of sole and leafs in there. There is a drain at the bottom and is going out inside the engine bay, just around ABS pump. I used a hoover to clean it as there is no place to put your hand.
You can also pour some water into the hole where the filter is and find out if the drain is clean. If not, you can squeeze it to help push the dirt out.
I will try to make few photos today to help you find it.
Hope this helps.
Title: Re: misting up inside & CC bulb
Post by: HerefordElite on 16 February 2008, 12:52:53
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There should be a second vent in there and the vent has a one way valve type setup to stop moisture and road spray getting in.

anyone got a spare vent or two??? ;D :y :question

right i'm going outside to rip the bumper off and inspect the extent of the damage - wish me luck  :-/

has anyone got a spare vent ??
Title: Re: misting up inside & CC bulb
Post by: Richard A on 16 February 2008, 18:24:06
As already said O/S/R space keep clear, CD muliplay unit only, also if you run the car with ECO on the inside WILL mist up, try to run with aircon on (if fitted). :y
regards
richard
Title: Re: misting up inside & CC bulb
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 16 February 2008, 18:34:36
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There should be a second vent in there and the vent has a one way valve type setup to stop moisture and road spray getting in.

anyone got a spare vent or two??? ;D :y :question

right i'm going outside to rip the bumper off and inspect the extent of the damage - wish me luck  :-/

has anyone got a spare vent ??

Any body breaking on will have a spare.....should be easy and cheap to get.
Title: Re: misting up inside & CC bulb
Post by: HerefordElite on 16 February 2008, 19:04:27
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There should be a second vent in there and the vent has a one way valve type setup to stop moisture and road spray getting in.

anyone got a spare vent or two??? ;D :y :question

right i'm going outside to rip the bumper off and inspect the extent of the damage - wish me luck  :-/


Oh dear :o :'( :o :exclamation
(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj210/jakeunderhill/DSC01391.jpg)
 i'm really hoping you can get repair panels for below the swage line and not the whole quater panel???

FUBAR :'(
Title: Re: misting up inside & CC bulb
Post by: eddie on 17 February 2008, 05:07:38
Phew!HerefordElite that is looking grim!  I have the tinworm on nearside rear door sill and adjacent rear arch (WHY?) but that looks a bit annoying.

Mark thanks for the bulbs link. ;)

eddie
Title: Re: misting up inside & CC bulb
Post by: HerefordElite on 17 February 2008, 19:36:12
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Phew!HerefordElite that is looking grim!  I have the tinworm on nearside rear door sill and adjacent rear arch (WHY?) but that looks a bit annoying.

Mark thanks for the bulbs link. ;)

eddie


arches bubling both sides but i had no idea it was so bad until i took the bumper off :'(

FUBAR