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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: DaviesEB on 08 March 2008, 21:54:31

Title: verything and had this results.
Post by: DaviesEB on 08 March 2008, 21:54:31: Thanks to all who hosted the paperclip test.
I finally fitted e
Title: Re: Results
Post by: DaviesEB on 08 March 2008, 21:56:55: Results for paperclip test.

12 12 12 137 137 137 144 144 144 12 12 12.

Does this mean i have to change ECU and Cranksensor.

Or just check them :-[
Title: Re: Results
Post by: TheBoy on 08 March 2008, 22:00:27: Quote
Results for paperclip test.

12 12 12 137 137 137 144 144 144 12 12 12.

Does this mean i have to change ECU and Cranksensor.

Or just check them :-[
No.
12 - start of sequence
137 - cant remember
144 - immobiliser
Title: Re: verything and had this results.
Post by: amba on 08 March 2008, 22:05:09: 137 ...engine control box (ECU )...high temperature ???..unsure what it means though
Title: Re: verything and had this results.
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 08 March 2008, 22:07:36: I would clear them and see if that 137 returns...
Title: Re: verything and had this results.
Post by: Mike Collins on 08 March 2008, 22:11:44: The circuit diagrams show some versions having a cooling fan in the ecu area, diseasals I think.

Would yours have one, is it working?
Title: Re: verything and had this results.
Post by: DaviesEB on 08 March 2008, 22:15:35: Thanks where is the ECU located and how do i reset the Test results.

Does the ECU ever gets damage.
Thanks
Title: Re: verything and had this results.
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 08 March 2008, 22:17:27: Quote
Thanks where is the ECU located and how do i reset the Test results.

Does the ECU ever gets damage.
Thanks

You'll need a code reader / resetter to reset the codes.

ECU failure is a VERY rare occurance ... and usually wrongly suspected by mechanics who have poor understandings of engine management systems. Hving said that, it does happen, but only a fraction of what you would believe...
Title: Re: verything and had this results.
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 08 March 2008, 22:18:33: Do any dash lights (Eg the EML) flash when you are cranking the engine?

As an aside, i've seen a couple of non starting V6's be fixed by a new crank sensor, yet there has been no code 19 in the memory..
Title: Re: verything and had this results.
Post by: DaviesEB on 08 March 2008, 22:20:18: Sorry fellas i made a mistake there was a cdoe 19 as well.

I plan checking the wires of the crank sensor. and i have also ordered one.
Thanks
Title: Re: verything and had this results.
Post by: TheBoy on 08 March 2008, 22:20:43: Can't be a v6, as no 31 (assuming it was not running) :-/
Title: Re: verything and had this results.
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 08 March 2008, 22:23:05: Quote
Sorry fellas i made a mistake there was a cdoe 19 as well.

I plan checking the wires of the crank sensor. and i have also ordered one.
Thanks

In which case, the non starting is your crank sensor. almost definately.
Title: Re: verything and had this results.
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 08 March 2008, 22:24:20: I suggest you fit new sensor as per guide on here, it's a 15min job.

Then, take it somewhere the codes can be cleared (or get a reader for about 30 quid) and keep an eye to see if the 137 code comes back.

I don't think there are any major problems here.
Title: Re: verything and had this results.
Post by: TheBoy on 08 March 2008, 22:35:44: Quote
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Sorry fellas i made a mistake there was a cdoe 19 as well.

I plan checking the wires of the crank sensor. and i have also ordered one.
Thanks

In which case, the non starting is your crank sensor. almost definately.
I agree entirely :)
Title: Re: verything and had this results.
Post by: DaviesEB on 08 March 2008, 22:39:56: Thanks that sounds reassuring. I have never gotten to know a vehicle like i do the omega now. I am an Electronic eng, and it sounds exciting the ease in doing all this. I should be ordering a sensor from AndyC. I will chek the wires as i am told that most time its the wires on the sensors as it is near hot exhaust areas. I will check to see if that is crushed or melted first.
What of the 144 what is wrong with the immobiliser.
Lastly where can i get the read. These Opel are just getting to Africa and i sure think i can help others.
Thanks
Title: Re: verything and had this results.
Post by: TheBoy on 08 March 2008, 22:42:19: Quote
Thanks that sounds reassuring. I have never gotten to know a vehicle like i do the omega now. I am an Electronic eng, and it sounds exciting the ease in doing all this. I should be ordering a sensor from AndyC. I will chek the wires as i am told that most time its the wires on the sensors as it is near hot exhaust areas. I will check to see if that is crushed or melted first.
What of the 144 what is wrong with the immobiliser.
Lastly where can i get the read. These Opel are just getting to Africa and i sure think i can help others.
Thanks
144 is likely to be a very old code (one of the few codes that never delete themselves).

As to clearing codes, if you have a suitable PC, consider a 'cheapo tech2'
Title: Re: verything and had this results.
Post by: DaviesEB on 08 March 2008, 22:47:02: where is the ECU located. What is the tech 2 chaepo. How much is it
Title: Re: verything and had this results.
Post by: TheBoy on 08 March 2008, 22:51:02: Quote
where is the ECU located. What is the tech 2 chaepo. How much is it
ecu in box by battery.

Cheapo Tech2 £30ish from ebay, but do a search here to understand its limitations and what computers it works with.
Title: Re: verything and had this results.
Post by: Cav9_4 on 08 March 2008, 22:54:09: Quote
Do any dash lights (Eg the EML) flash when you are cranking the engine?

As an aside, i've seen a couple of non starting V6's be fixed by a new crank sensor, yet there has been no code 19 in the memory..
Hoping that's my problem
Title: Re: verything and had this results.
Post by: DaviesEB on 08 March 2008, 22:57:55: Thanks Pal. I will never stop riding an Opel. I bought this car in Africa Liberia to be precise. It only came with one key. Also the electronic portion of the key dropped off.
I will need ti get a spare with the electronic component. How do i go about this. How do i get the carpass for my vehicle. I have a proff of purchase from the fellow i bought it from. The VIN tells me its from Germany Russelsheim

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Thanks
Title: Re: verything and had this results.
Post by: TheBoy on 08 March 2008, 23:03:24: Quote
Thanks Pal. I will never stop riding an Opel. I bought this car in Africa Liberia to be precise. It only came with one key. Also the electronic portion of the key dropped off.
I will need ti get a spare with the electronic component. How do i go about this. How do i get the carpass for my vehicle. I have a proff of purchase from the fellow i bought it from. The VIN tells me its from Germany Russelsheim

WOl0VBF35W1117349

Thanks
They were all built in Russelheim

For key, its either dealer or a good autolocksmith. Carpass will be required, again, dealer only.
Title: Re: verything and had this results.
Post by: Entwood on 08 March 2008, 23:05:27: Quote
Thanks Pal. I will never stop riding an Opel. I bought this car in Africa Liberia to be precise. It only came with one key. Also the electronic portion of the key dropped off.
I will need ti get a spare with the electronic component. How do i go about this. How do i get the carpass for my vehicle. I have a proff of purchase from the fellow i bought it from. The VIN tells me its from Germany Russelsheim

WOl0VBF35W1117349

Thanks

I might be very wrong ... but even with a new crank sensor ( for the 19 error) without the electronics it still won't start ??? as that controls the immobilisor ??

With luck an expert will pass by shortly and corrct me if I'm wrong .... :(
Title: Re: verything and had this results.
Post by: DaviesEB on 08 March 2008, 23:06:06: Thanks Mate i talked to AndyC who is a memeber of the forum and also works as ASSt Parts Manager with Vauxhall in St. Edmunds.

Thanks
Title: Re: verything and had this results.
Post by: TheBoy on 08 March 2008, 23:06:41: Quote
Thanks Pal. I will never stop riding an Opel. I bought this car in Africa Liberia to be precise. It only came with one key. Also the electronic portion of the key dropped off.
I will need ti get a spare with the electronic component. How do i go about this. How do i get the carpass for my vehicle. I have a proff of purchase from the fellow i bought it from. The VIN tells me its from Germany Russelsheim

WOl0VBF35W1117349

Thanks
You are not missing transponder chip from key? EML isn't flashing is it?
Title: Re: verything and had this results.
Post by: DaviesEB on 10 March 2008, 08:36:35: Hi There a great day here. I was able to remove the plenum and did wash the breather thoroughly. I want to purchase the two o rings and the seal underneath the bridge . Where can i get these and how much. I will also want to buy me the crank sensor.
thanks