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Title: Removing air intakes
Post by: paul666 on 17 March 2008, 17:16:52
Hi Guys, does anybody know what happens if I remove all that bloody split air sytem gubbins from my inlets and just fit straight through twin power filters just behind the rad with a nice frsh air (cold) supply?
Title: Re: Removing air intakes
Post by: miggy on 17 March 2008, 17:22:03
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Hi Guys, does anybody know what happens if I remove all that bloody split air sytem gubbins from my inlets and just fit straight through twin power filters just behind the rad with a nice frsh air (cold) supply?

I should imagine it would be best to stick with what you got...no doubt someone will be on to let you know.

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Title: Re: Removing air intakes
Post by: Markie on 17 March 2008, 17:25:22
leave it as is - its actually very good as standard. Messing about is going to start impacting idle, consumption and so on, MAF is also located there or thereabouts...
Title: Re: Removing air intakes
Post by: Andy B on 17 March 2008, 17:27:52
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Hi Guys, does anybody know what happens if I remove all that bloody split air sytem gubbins from my inlets and just fit straight through twin power filters just behind the rad with a nice frsh air (cold) supply?

Wouldn't you need 2 MAF meters for that kind of arrangement? Don't try to fix sumat's that not broke.  ;)
Title: Re: Removing air intakes
Post by: paul666 on 17 March 2008, 18:39:35
point taken - I had seen one done before and it looked OK but you all have good points so - on a private note I'll go and polish my (air) pipes. :-[
Title: Re: Removing air intakes
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 17 March 2008, 18:42:04
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point taken - I had seen one done before and it looked OK but you all have good points so - on a private note I'll go and polish my (air) pipes. :-[

They do sound nice though, Timbuk had one on his car :y
Title: Re: Removing air intakes
Post by: trebor on 17 March 2008, 18:56:25
I did this on a 2.5V6 on a rolling road a few years ago.

It lost around 8-12 bhp throughout the rev range!

I tried it on the road and fuel consumption was 10% better! lol
Title: Re: Removing air intakes
Post by: Kevin Wood on 17 March 2008, 19:01:44
The multirams are there to keep the intake system resonant at lower RPM. This helps achieve a nice flat torque curve. It might be possible to get a few extra BHP at the top end without it if you remapped to suit, but you'd lose power in the areas where you need it in a heavy car.

Kevin
Title: Re: Removing air intakes
Post by: jemis on 17 March 2008, 20:51:54
Is it worth just changing to a K&N panel filter. Is there any difference over standard or would it be a waiste of £45.
Title: Re: Removing air intakes
Post by: paul666 on 17 March 2008, 21:02:19
I've got a K+N instead of the actual airbox which does make it breath a bit better or so they say but a guy at our local tuners has told me to put the cold air pipe from the K+N in front of the airbox and drill the front lower part whilst fitting a panel filter as this works better. I asked about removing the lot in case this helped more but as I said earlier with all the negatives from those who have tried mine are staying on. I'm only trying to boost the mpg by a couple as I work mobile and have to name a price based on miles to get to a client and I don't want another car I want mine and if not I'n gonna kwy and kwy! Seriously used it today with sport on and TC off I don't need to go any faster BUT I do think that we should all be a special case and get cheaper fuel.
Title: Re: Removing air intakes
Post by: jemis on 17 March 2008, 21:15:20
I was told to avoid a cone type induction on these when I had my last mv6 a couple of years back.

It is to do with the high temperature under the bonnet, the hotter the air going in the less power you get so the standard filter with the cold air feed is better than a cone sucking in hot air.

There are some proper cold air induction kits around which could probably be adapted to fit but there not cheap.
Title: Re: Removing air intakes
Post by: Kevin Wood on 17 March 2008, 23:16:39
The standard air filter is huge, so the only difference you'll notice with a cone filter is more noise and, if it's sucking any warm air from under the bonnet, less power.

Obviously keep the standard filter clean for best power, so probably worth changing it more regularly than the service schedule calls for (40K IIRC?).

Kevin
Title: Re: Removing air intakes
Post by: Timbuk on 17 March 2008, 23:20:58
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point taken - I had seen one done before and it looked OK but you all have good points so - on a private note I'll go and polish my (air) pipes. :-[

They do sound nice though, Timbuk had one on his car :y

That was just an induction kit, not replacing the bagpipes ;)