Omega Owners Forum
Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: amba on 25 March 2008, 17:14:41
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Any idea where the heated rear seat relays are on a elite saloon?
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Hi mate, didnt I send you them? They are under the back seat...2 of them...
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Yes Chris..just wondered where they clipped on as top of relays have cut out for clipping to something ???
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They fitted in the very front area of the metal cutout area that the rear seat base sits on...
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Hope this helps ...
(http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/2104/heaterdn5.jpg)
:)
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Thanks Entwood.can they be accessed just by folding the upstand of the carpet back or do I need to remove seat base aswell.?
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The instruction sheet that goes with that picture says to remove the seat base completely.. :(
Never done the job so I can't comment ....
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Could do with a picture of the wiring that meets the relays from the switches on rear console as in process of refitting all the wiring etc for rear seat heaters and need to understand where it all goes and what it connects to ..does the description have a working detail or wiring drawing?
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The words that match that picture are purely for changing the relay ... :(
Relay – Rear Seat Heating, Remove and Install
Remove
Release rear seat – see operation "Rear Seat, Remove and Install" in group "C". Push back floor carpet from heel plate.
Detach clip (1) from heel plate. Remove relay (2) from heel plate opening. Remove relay from relay base.
Install
Insert relay into relay socket. Insert relay into heel plate aperture and fasten to heel plate with clamps. Install floor carpet. Rear seat
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Thanks again..will need trial and error then ??just bit in dark as nothing in place so all needs to be retro fitted..thought all Elites had rear heated seats.Mine has the switches which light up but just the wire tails coming out of the seat bases and backs...nothing to join it all up..and they all seem genuine original seats.
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hi mate
aint having much luck with those seats.
phill ;)
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Phill.
I am pleased to say that all is connected up and for the first time in over 2 years the rear seats ,bases and backs all heat up fine.I am now only missing a small section of the wiring being the cable joining plugs which connect the seat bases to the seat backs.For some reason unknown to me the backs are fitted with a grey coloured female plug and the seat bases are fitted with a black male plug.Needless to say they don,t join up so at present all is connected with "scotch blocks",so am now on the look out for a kind person who is breaking a car with heated rear seats that can source me a bit of the wire and both male/female plugs,otherwise will need to find another cable joining system which can be pulled apart if needed without lots of unscrewing.
Anybody out there that has 2 sets of these ??
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I think your looking at the wrong connector, its supposed to be on the passenger side!
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Mark...I definitly have 2 sets of wires coming out of seat base all with black connecters.They connect to the cables which come from the relays under rear panel and all them are now connected with the push/pull joiners.The back seats have 2 wires with grey female terminals which will not join up with the black males from the seat bases.It looks like GM had changed the colours of the connectors at some point and maybe the seat backs or bases have been replaced prior to my ownership.
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the backs have different plugs to the bases if you have joined them together you run the risk of the over heating and setting fire bud ! be careful !! :o
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The connector from my experience looks like this:
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b394/Marks_DTM_Calib/Rearseatconnector.jpg)
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Mark.don,t the 4 wires from the seat bases connect : 2 go to the wiring area by the relays//the other 2 sets join up with the seat backs.
That looks like how it should have been originally,its just that all the plugs on mine were broken,looks like they were crushed by the seats,but I am certain all is connected correctly it is just I would like the correct set of male/female plugs so if the seat ever need to be removed they can just be unjoined like GM designed them to be.
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Relay connections look correct and match mine.As said mine now all work fine and no issues with fusing or risk to wiring,its just I am curious why the plugs coming from the seat backs are female grey and those which they should (and now have been connected with choc-blocks )are male and black and would not join.So it looks like there are 2 different methods of connection used by GM ..just ny luck I have 1 set on the seat bases and the other on the seat bases.
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when vx put them together they were tyed with cable ties to keep plugs together ! will have to take back seat out of mine and take some piccys !! :y
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are you sure the grey connectors, have anything to do with heating the seat,
no expert on this, but you know what omegas are like for wires
phill ;)
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Hi Phill.
The 2 sets of wires coming from the rear seat backs have a grey femal connecter on them..from memory the wires are brown/black but the connector is definitly grey.The corresponding set of wires from the seat base,whch I assume would simply plug into them to form the circuit are male black and the 2 sets will not couple together.
It is my intention if I cannot get the matching pair of black/black or grey/grey from breaker,as doubt if anybody would want to cut them off a set of seats that work,is to get plug and socket pre wired from Maplins.Then cut the original mismatched colour plugs off the loom and join in a new set.
I was just totally puzzled why GM make seats with different colour and fitting plugs and connecters.My opinion is that either the seat backs or bases have been replaced by a previous owner hence why not connected up.
Wondering if the common colour is either black or grey.