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Title: another misfire
Post by: psnimv6 on 07 March 2008, 18:11:14
hello my omega 01 3.0 has started mis firing again just before christmas put in new genuine plugs did not help so then after christmas i fitted a new coilpack (ebay not genuine) and it seemed to stop the misfire but at times i thought it was still misfiring under light throttle but not as bad but it is now getting a lot worse so a few days ago i fitted new bosch spark plug leads but that still did not help >:( and it has now started to cut out at times when idleing and some times the rev counter will jump and almost stall the engine .it has not put on the EML light yet but i will go out and do the paper test on it just in case , i am thinking crankshaft sensor but would it have anything to do will the misfire or just a coincidence any way i will post back any saved codes, this problem is really pi**ing me off to the extent it will be for sale if it does not start behaving it self soon ;D
Title: Re: another misfire
Post by: rickyboy on 07 March 2008, 18:19:58
Paperclip test would definitely be a help but you say the coil pack sorted the misfire before.  Really hope that buying the coil pack off ebay hasn't been a false economy.  

Check the wiring to the injectors - it's particularly poor on mine but my engine is a 2.0 litre so don't know if your car suffers from the same.  

I'm sure someone with a bit more expertise will be along shortly to offer you a solution.
Title: Re: another misfire
Post by: Mike Collins on 07 March 2008, 18:27:29
Are any fluids leaking?
Oil into plugwells, water into plugwells, coolant onto dispack?
Title: Re: another misfire
Post by: psnimv6 on 07 March 2008, 18:36:54
ok just done the paper clip test fault code 19 incorrect rpm signal also 144 immobiliser no signal (got this before probaly because ex plod) as for the plugwells all dry with no collent leaks at all.
Title: Re: another misfire
Post by: psnimv6 on 07 March 2008, 19:02:16
does anybody no the price of a crankshaft sensor and are any of the ebay ones any good ( i suspect not as i don,t think they are genuine )my crank shaft sensor has a oval plug is  there any difference in this type other than oval plug or square plug?
Title: Re: another misfire
Post by: MutantCav on 07 March 2008, 21:18:28
Did you do the test with the engine running?? If so then yes definitely crank shaft needs changing...if not then redo it with the engine running otherwise the fault is inconclusive...
Title: Re: another misfire
Post by: psnimv6 on 07 March 2008, 21:27:26
yes the engine was running do you no the current price for the sensor ,what about ebay sensors ? could this be anything to do with my misfire? (i doubt it but what do you guys think)
Title: Re: another misfire
Post by: psnimv6 on 08 March 2008, 11:08:45
anybody know if the crankshaft sensor would have caused the misfire or not or is it just a coincidence that it failed at this time? and what about ebay sensors ? what price is vx sensors?
Title: Re: another misfire
Post by: TheBoy on 08 March 2008, 11:50:00
19 is conclusive - knackered crank sensor. Stick to GM one.
Title: Re: another misfire
Post by: psnimv6 on 14 March 2008, 21:12:19
fitted new cam sensor sorted out that problem but it is still misfiring under light load new plugs fitted genuine vx new dis pac fitted non genuine new plug leads bosch  now running out of ideas as to the cause of my misfire doe anybody have any other things they can think of?
Title: Re: another misfire
Post by: rickyboy on 14 March 2008, 21:57:14
Why change the cam sensor when the original fault was the crank sensor?  The crank sensor would have been first on my list to change.
Title: Re: another misfire
Post by: psnimv6 on 14 March 2008, 22:10:44
sorry my mistake i did change the crank sensor :-[
Title: Re: another misfire
Post by: psnimv6 on 15 March 2008, 10:51:46
today car is stalling again  >:( and trying to cut out every 30 seconds or so ,some times the ecu stops it stalling other times it does,nt just down paper clip test still showing 144 immoblizer and 19 crank sensor but that is probaly a stored fault what do you cheak next ?
Title: Re: another misfire
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 15 March 2008, 12:38:27
Work through the setup checking for air leaks, pay attention ot the brake servo pipe because if its been badly re-fitted at some point it can wear against the aircon line and make a hole.
Title: Re: another misfire
Post by: rickyboy on 15 March 2008, 16:38:36
Did you use genuine Vauxhall crank sensor?
Title: Re: another misfire
Post by: psnimv6 on 15 March 2008, 17:49:29
no it was siemens sold by one of the ebay vx dealers but it should be ok at least for a year or 2 i would have of thought , it is guaranteed for 12 months and looked as good a quality if not better than the genuine one
Title: Re: another misfire
Post by: rickyboy on 15 March 2008, 18:14:08
I hope you're right although the fact the crank sensor fault is still there is a tad worrying.  Wait and see what the experts think.
Title: Re: another misfire
Post by: psnimv6 on 19 March 2008, 10:41:37
right still misfiring under light load so i have took the coil pack out (only new on 20 1 08 ) and it seems to be starting to split with very small signs of rust appearing out of the splits so much for ebay vx dealers  >:( at least it is guaranteed for 12 months but i will have to pay return postage >:( have any of you had any problems with these non genuine coil packs? if this is all the time they last they must be total junk plus i am still getting fault code 19 crank shaft sensor also ebay vx dealers but i thought it should be ok as it is made by siemens but it is still trying to cut out like it did with the old one could the coil pack be relaited to the cuting out but then again it still is storing fault code 19 any advice appreciated
Title: Re: another misfire
Post by: Gaffers on 19 March 2008, 17:45:16
I remember reading some time ago that fault codes are stored until there is no fault for a set number of engine start-ups.  Cant remember the exact number but was over 10 at least.

You got me thinking now as I have mis-fire problems yet no eml light on should I be worried?
Title: Re: another misfire
Post by: Markie on 19 March 2008, 18:06:32
fault code should go after around 20 starts.....
Title: Re: another misfire
Post by: psnimv6 on 20 March 2008, 09:19:23
being in contact with the ebay vx parts seller that supplied my coil pack and told them it was faulty they said to but another one and return the faulty one and they will test it and if faulty will refund money plus postage costs so bought another one only this time it was a bosch one (£69.50) so hopfully it will sort out my misfire, i am expecting delivery today so fingers crossed it will arrive as i payed extra for next day delivery if this does not sort it i will  burn it and claim the insurance :-?
Title: Re: another misfire
Post by: PaulW on 20 March 2008, 13:15:33
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right still misfiring under light load so i have took the coil pack out (only new on 20 1 08 ) and it seems to be starting to split with very small signs of rust appearing out of the splits so much for ebay vx dealers  >:( at least it is guaranteed for 12 months but i will have to pay return postage >:( have any of you had any problems with these non genuine coil packs? if this is all the time they last they must be total junk plus i am still getting fault code 19 crank shaft sensor also ebay vx dealers but i thought it should be ok as it is made by siemens but it is still trying to cut out like it did with the old one could the coil pack be relaited to the cuting out but then again it still is storing fault code 19 any advice appreciated

I'd get the HBV changed if you haven't already, it could be starting to go and spraying small amounts of coolant on your dis pack!
Title: Re: another misfire
Post by: psnimv6 on 29 March 2008, 18:47:50
just an update checked codes again today and crank sensor code has now gone thank f**k but the car is the same as ever missing away on light throttle >:( >:( >:(