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Title: 3.0 brakes
Post by: vauxhallomega on 13 April 2008, 14:25:46
hi, just got my 3.0 saloon and very impressed with car except for, brakes they are useless, cant seem to get any stopping power just a very hard pedal, no abs lights,pads and discs appear good, also cant get cd player to work , just got cd safe displayed , its a phillips, bose unit with phone , sat nav, traffic master, ect also how does the traffic master unit work many thanks  ricky
Title: Re: 3.0 brakes
Post by: MutantCav on 13 April 2008, 15:12:23
Not sure about brakes but sounds like possible air trapped if the pedal is hard to push down??

Stereo is in safe mode...battery probably been disconnected at some point...you need to enter the stereo code, you will also need to enter the cd changer code too...is it a 700 or 800 head unit?

Traffic master (if you have the subscription) just tells you of impending traffic jams, gives you a message as your approaching the area of conjection to give you a chance to go a different way...
Title: Re: 3.0 brakes
Post by: vauxhallomega on 13 April 2008, 15:38:13
not sure what unit it is , its got phillips/ on star on front, cd/ tape/ phone, ect
Title: Re: 3.0 brakes
Post by: MutantCav on 13 April 2008, 15:45:30
Phone version, will be ccr700 then...
Title: Re: 3.0 brakes
Post by: 106rallye on 13 April 2008, 15:47:15
the omega brakes arnt the best but i find the inital braking power isnt that bad, however the brake fade it terrible! thats prob more down to cheap pads.

A good upgrade would the the pontiac GTO Brakes, 04 brakes bolt straight on, 05/06 would need some mods and prob bigger wheels
Title: Re: 3.0 brakes
Post by: Elite Pete on 13 April 2008, 15:52:07
My brakes are spot on and pull me up from the speed limit ::) easily with no fade but ive fitted genuine discs and pads and had a recent fluid change :y
Title: Re: 3.0 brakes
Post by: bigdods on 13 April 2008, 15:53:34
Brakes - I have a 3.0 Facelift Elite and prior to that had a mini facelift 2.5CDX. Both had perfectly acceptable brakes, its a heavy car and I've never had any problems stopping quickly and in control. You must have genuine vauxhall pads fitted, the pattern ones are crap. But it sounds more like you have air in the system. If the pedal is hard then the assistance isnt working.

Stereo - if you have a phone IIRC thats a CCR700 (or something liek that) . You will  probably have a CD changer in the boot. You will need codes for both. You may be lucky if you dont have the code - when mine was needed I called the original supplying dealer and the code for the head unit was still on their system. A few months later I needed the code for the CD but when I called them my car had gone past some kind of age limit and they had wiped all the codes grrr

If it has a phone built in then it wont be Bose (I stand to be corrected here) I think the bose needs a different head unit. My 2.5 CDX had the phone but no bose. My Elite has the bose but no phone.

Title: Re: 3.0 brakes
Post by: Elite Pete on 13 April 2008, 16:17:41
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Brakes - I have a 3.0 Facelift Elite and prior to that had a mini facelift 2.5CDX. Both had perfectly acceptable brakes, its a heavy car and I've never had any problems stopping quickly and in control. You must have genuine vauxhall pads fitted, the pattern ones are crap. But it sounds more like you have air in the system. If the pedal is hard then the assistance isnt working.

Stereo - if you have a phone IIRC thats a CCR700 (or something liek that) . You will  probably have a CD changer in the boot. You will need codes for both. You may be lucky if you dont have the code - when mine was needed I called the original supplying dealer and the code for the head unit was still on their system. A few months later I needed the code for the CD but when I called them my car had gone past some kind of age limit and they had wiped all the codes grrr

If it has a phone built in then it wont be Bose (I stand to be corrected here) I think the bose needs a different head unit. My 2.5 CDX had the phone but no bose. My Elite has the bose but no phone.

 
CCRT700 is Bose :y
Title: Re: 3.0 brakes
Post by: TheBoy on 13 April 2008, 17:41:35
My brakes on both mine are spot on. If you have hard pedal and little stopping power, I would check for seized calipers.  Don't suffer with fading either (one side of MK to other would begin to make them fade), I run genuine GM parts, and GM fluid, bled properly.


CCRT700 can be programmed for Bose or Non Bose.

CD Safe menas the CD player needs code entering.
Title: Re: 3.0 brakes
Post by: vauxhallomega on 13 April 2008, 18:07:40
thanks ive tried to enter the codes but the head unit wont let me,  radio works ok but as soon as i press cd it comes up cd safe
Title: Re: 3.0 brakes
Post by: Matchless on 13 April 2008, 18:09:15
Hard pedal, very little travel? Could be there is no vacuum getting to the servo....check for a disconnected vacuum pipe or even a pipe which has been broken and then blanked off.
Title: Re: 3.0 brakes
Post by: Andy B on 13 April 2008, 18:27:30
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thanks ive tried to enter the codes but the head unit wont let me,  radio works ok but as soon as i press cd it comes up cd safe

The CD unit has its own code. don't enter the wrong code too many times or you'll have to send to Dave DND to sort out.  :y
Title: Re: 3.0 brakes
Post by: Weds on 13 April 2008, 18:40:16
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hi, just got my 3.0 saloon and very impressed with car except for, brakes they are useless, cant seem to get any stopping power just a very hard pedal, no abs lights,pads and discs appear good, also cant get cd player to work , just got cd safe displayed , its a phillips, bose unit with phone , sat nav, traffic master, ect also how does the traffic master unit work many thanks  ricky

Hard pedal sounds like lack of vacuum, one common fault is for the vac pipe to wear through just after the right angle bend connector to the plenum chamber, the pipe rubs against the A/C pipe, usually because the pipe clip goes missing.
Title: Re: 3.0 brakes
Post by: MutantCav on 13 April 2008, 18:55:38
It wont ask for the code, there is a sequence to do to get the stereo to ask for the code...its like getting the stereo code up (pressing AS) but a different button...
Title: Re: 3.0 brakes
Post by: Lazydocker on 13 April 2008, 22:19:38
I agree... Vacuum fault. Air in the system would give a spongey pedal. My brakes seemed a little poor, with quite a bit of pedal travel. Found out why yesterday when I hit metal on the rear in Central London!!  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Thankfully with so little of the braking being done by the rears I managed to get home and have fitted QH pads all round today. Initial reports are very good, pedal feels much better, as expected, and brakes seem fantastic!! Obviously I've not given them the full stamp treatment as they are just bedding in  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Wouldn't want to glaze them at this early stage!!   ::) ::) ::) ::)

As for the stereo, if you can't get your CD changer to work I'll happily take the magazine off your hands!!  ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) Mine is missing but seems to be recognised!! Who was it who had a Blaupunkt 6 disc Magazine spare? I seem to have deleted your PM!!!!  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: 3.0 brakes
Post by: TheBoy on 13 April 2008, 22:33:23
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It wont ask for the code, there is a sequence to do to get the stereo to ask for the code...its like getting the stereo code up (pressing AS) but a different button...
Like the 0 button ;)
Title: Re: 3.0 brakes
Post by: Steve1077 on 14 April 2008, 03:34:22
Well I have mintex pads and disks and it stops just fine
Title: Re: 3.0 brakes
Post by: 106rallye on 14 April 2008, 12:59:29
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Well I have mintex pads and disks and it stops just fine

What mintex pads do you run? i had 1144's on my old car and swear by them! didnt let me down once, however the omega is around a tone heavier so wasnt sure iff 1155's would be needed.
Title: Re: 3.0 brakes
Post by: vauxhallomega on 14 April 2008, 18:41:02
thanks for all your help lads, and lassies, found the fault with the brakes ,split vacuum hose behind the engine block just like you said , repaired and now it stops just like it goes, awsome !!!. just need to get this cd player working and i will be realy chuffed , thanks again