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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: gsizoli on 15 April 2008, 17:01:48
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Hi All!
I've a facelift Omega 3.0 (X30XE) with manual transmission, the model year is 2000.
There are 3 cooling vents in the car (2 push and 1 draw vents)
Is there a same vents in a non facelift X30XE cars? - can I use it or not?
Does it possible to replace the bearings in the vents?
Unfortunately the working drawing vent sounds horrible....
Could anyone give me right information?
Tx
Br
Zoli
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Have you tried lubricating the vent??
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Give it a good spray with some silicone lubricant,that should work as probably just gunged-up.
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Does he mean cooling fans, as he mentions noisy bearings, 2 push 1 pull? ::)
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Does he mean cooling fans, as he mentions noisy bearings, 2 push 1 pull? ::)
Don't know....maybe :-/
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Sounds like main fan behind radiator and two auxiliary fans in front.
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Hmm...The vents are rotating... so I think there should be bearings somewhere...
But you are right there was 2 questions:
1, Comaptible or not?
2, Does it possible to replace the bearings inside the vents/fans?
Sorry I can't explain better because my native language is not the English... :-X
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Thanks Mike Collins!
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"Sounds like main fan behind radiator and two auxiliary fans in front. "
In Hungary the "auxiliary fans" are called /toló - push/ and main fan transleted to /szívó- pull/.
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Szia Zoli! [smiley=vrolijk_26.gif]
It is possible to remove the plastic blades of the fan and replace the electric motor component....but perhaps the best advice is to reclaim fans from another car that has completed time of use.
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Szia Debs.!!
It seems your Hungarian is better than my English.... :D
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Yes thanks. But my dealer said there is no possible to buy only the motor.
In Hungary att this time easier to find fans/vents for B1 Omega like B2...
Could anyone check and send me part/GM number for fans from her/his B1? (3.0 manual)
Are you use a translation program? :'(
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Yes thanks. But my dealer said there is no possible to buy only the motor.
There are members of this forum whom break apart cars at the end of the vehicle`s life and sell the individual parts....there might be a person whom will sell to you and postal-deliver just the electric motor component so you may make the replacement there in B.P
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Yes thanks. But my dealer said there is no possible to buy only the motor.
There are members of this forum whom break apart cars at the end of the vehicle`s life and sell the individual parts....there might be a person whom will sell to you and postal-deliver just the electric motor component so you may make the replacement there in B.P
How could I contact him?Is this an another forum?
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If you make a "Wanted to Buy" post here (it another section of this forum) http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?board=PartsSale
There are always quite a number of people whom are breaking apart cars to sell the parts. :y
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If you make a "Wanted to Buy" post here (it is another section of this forum):
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?board=PartsSale
There are always quite a number of people whom are breaking apart cars to sell the parts, so you should be able to get what you need. :y
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If you make a "Wanted to Buy" post here (it another section of this forum) http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?board=PartsSale
There are always quite a number of people whom are breaking apart cars to sell the parts. :y
Thanks I'll try it
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Hi,
I had to remove one of the front fans, (push vent) on my car, which I think may be same type as your year 2000. I do not think it is the same as the earlier model, or at least the fan unit is fitted to the car differently and cannot be removed without removing the engine cooling radiator and the air con condenser radiator as it is removed through the space where these are fitted. If you do not have air conditioning, then this may well be an easier way to remove the front fans complete, but with air con its an expensive way to do it. Haynes manual describes how to remove unit on the earlier version (presume pre facelift) which you can get out complete quite easily from the front.
However, although the fan unit complete may be different or fitted differently, I think the actual motors may well be the same, or certainly adaptable to fit if you only have the earlier type available.
If they are just squeking I would have a look at yours first if you are mechanically minded. They probably only need some oil. I very much doubt if the actual bearing are available separately, they are sintered bronze "oilite" bushes.
First, to take off the plastic fan blade guard you have to use a little force. it is clipped into the assembly with arrow head type catches moulded in the plastic,(a bit like the cable tray lids, but bigger) and you have to locate them, there are 4, press the lugs towards the centre and pull the guard at the same time for each lug.
Then undo the screws holding the fan blades on to the motor spindle and remove the fan blades.
You will then see the screws that hold the motor into the fan assembly.
First though, you have to cut the wires on the two pin plug on the bottom right hand corner where they go through a hole in the fan assembly to the rear of the motor. BUT, cut them about 25mm from the plug this is so you have enough wire available so you can crimp them together again when you have repaired the motor. You can then push the wires through the hole, and undo the screws and remove the fan motor.
You will see that the rear end of the motor is held to the main body of the motor by some lugs crimped over the end plate. You can carefully bend these back and remove the end of the motor complete with the motor brushes. You will find the bearing is a sintered bronze bush bearing which you can soak in oil, overnight in a warm place is best. You cannot remove the armature as the boss for the fan is a tight press fit, but you can oil around the shaft to get oil in the front bearing
It's a bit fiddly getting the brushes over the commutator again, but you can reassemble the motor and bend the lugs back in again.
Test it first, then put back, make sure you route the wires clear of the fan and re crimp the connector wires back with some blue butt connectors.
I have not removed the motor from the rear (pull vent) but this will come out easily complete away from the radiator, but although it has a different connector, the motor looks the same type and I am sure you could try the same method to oil it.
Roger
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Hi,
I had to remove one of the front fans, (push vent) on my car, which I think may be same type as your year 2000. I do not think it is the same as the earlier model, or at least the fan unit is fitted to the car differently and cannot be removed without removing the engine cooling radiator and the air con condenser radiator as it is removed through the space where these are fitted. If you do not have air conditioning, then this may well be an easier way to remove the front fans complete, but with air con its an expensive way to do it. Haynes manual describes how to remove unit on the earlier version (presume pre facelift) which you can get out complete quite easily from the front.
However, although the fan unit complete may be different or fitted differently, I think the actual motors may well be the same, or certainly adaptable to fit if you only have the earlier type available.
If they are just squeking I would have a look at yours first if you are mechanically minded. They probably only need some oil. I very much doubt if the actual bearing are available separately, they are sintered bronze "oilite" bushes.
First, to take off the plastic fan blade guard you have to use a little force. it is clipped into the assembly with arrow head type catches moulded in the plastic,(a bit like the cable tray lids, but bigger) and you have to locate them, there are 4, press the lugs towards the centre and pull the guard at the same time for each lug.
Then undo the screws holding the fan blades on to the motor spindle and remove the fan blades.
You will then see the screws that hold the motor into the fan assembly.
First though, you have to cut the wires on the two pin plug on the bottom right hand corner where they go through a hole in the fan assembly to the rear of the motor. BUT, cut them about 25mm from the plug this is so you have enough wire available so you can crimp them together again when you have repaired the motor. You can then push the wires through the hole, and undo the screws and remove the fan motor.
You will see that the rear end of the motor is held to the main body of the motor by some lugs crimped over the end plate. You can carefully bend these back and remove the end of the motor complete with the motor brushes. You will find the bearing is a sintered bronze bush bearing which you can soak in oil, overnight in a warm place is best. You cannot remove the armature as the boss for the fan is a tight press fit, but you can oil around the shaft to get oil in the front bearing
It's a bit fiddly getting the brushes over the commutator again, but you can reassemble the motor and bend the lugs back in again.
Test it first, then put back, make sure you route the wires clear of the fan and re crimp the connector wires back with some blue butt connectors.
I have not removed the motor from the rear (pull vent) but this will come out easily complete away from the radiator, but although it has a different connector, the motor looks the same type and I am sure you could try the same method to oil it.
Roger
Thanks.
It sounds good, I will try it first, Ihope it will help.If won"t then I try to buy an electric motor.