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Title: Comedy rocker gasket replacement quote
Post by: Iainv6 on 08 April 2008, 16:19:00
Hi everyone, my V6 has the usual rocker gasket leak, which i have been putting off having done for a while now.

Anyway, i finally got round to getting a quote from my VX dealer for the work, now bearing in mind that he has never seen the car, he reckoned about 600 quid plus he wants to put a NEW cam cover on too :D
He tried to tell me that a warped cover was what would be causing the leak!

I told him about cleaning out the oil breathers, but he didn't seem too interested in that. Oh, and he hinted at maybe having to do other, unspecified work too.

Anyone know of a good garage in or arround Edinburgh, that won't try to rip me off like these guy's?

cheers

Iain
Title: Re: Comedy rocker gasket replacement quote
Post by: tmx on 08 April 2008, 16:23:53
the warping covers is true i believe they are plastic and plastic does go brittle over time with heat! my local stealer bayliss quoted 180 all in for the work

i did it myself for £50 trade vx parts

yes clean the breathers out otherwise they will just die again!
Title: Re: Comedy rocker gasket replacement quote
Post by: bob.dent on 08 April 2008, 16:26:10
Sometimes the rocker covers do warp. Had to have mine replaced aswell as the gaskets on my previous Omega but not at the cost you've been quoted! :o
Title: Re: Comedy rocker gasket replacement quote
Post by: Iainv6 on 08 April 2008, 16:43:23
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Sometimes the rocker covers do warp. Had to have mine replaced aswell as the gaskets on my previous Omega but not at the cost you've been quoted! :o

Granted, i'm sure sometimes they DO need changed, but he claimed that was defo. the cause of the leak.
He hasn't even seen the car.
Title: Re: Comedy rocker gasket replacement quote
Post by: bob.dent on 08 April 2008, 16:48:54
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Sometimes the rocker covers do warp. Had to have mine replaced aswell as the gaskets on my previous Omega but not at the cost you've been quoted! :o

Granted, i'm sure sometimes they DO need changed, but he claimed that was defo. the cause of the leak.
He hasn't even seen the car.

He's probably talking cr@p then. If like me, you can't do them yourself you're better off finding a decent independent garage that will do them at a fraction of VX's charges.
Title: Re: Comedy rocker gasket replacement quote
Post by: hotel21 on 08 April 2008, 16:53:45
Warping is rare but does happen.  Normally, cause is due to overtightening the bolts.  I think is only something in the 8 to 10 NM range, so not a lot....

Use gen VX gaskets otherwise you will be redoing them sooner rather than later.

Clean the breathers as well, the gaskets are the weak point if the breather system is blocked.  Excess pressure has to go somewhere if it cant go where its supposed to go...

Good guides available here (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152598350) for cleaning the breathers and here (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152564281) for the rocker seals.....
Title: Re: Comedy rocker gasket replacement quote
Post by: Iainv6 on 08 April 2008, 16:58:06
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Sometimes the rocker covers do warp. Had to have mine replaced aswell as the gaskets on my previous Omega but not at the cost you've been quoted! :o

Granted, i'm sure sometimes they DO need changed, but he claimed that was defo. the cause of the leak.
He hasn't even seen the car.

He's probably talking cr@p then. If like me, you can't do them yourself you're better off finding a decent independent garage that will do them at a fraction of VX's charges.

Yeah, i'm in the same boat as you mechanicaly mate, i havn't the skill, tools or time to do these jobs. I prefer to trust garages and folk who know their way round the engine bay.

Title: Re: Comedy rocker gasket replacement quote
Post by: cockneyboy100 on 08 April 2008, 16:58:31
least dick turpin wore a mask.

 :y
Title: Re: Comedy rocker gasket replacement quote
Post by: Iainv6 on 08 April 2008, 17:04:16
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least dick turpin wore a mask.

 :y

 ;D If Dick Turpin demanded 600 notes for the work, he might get it ;)

The dealer certainly is not.
Title: Re: Comedy rocker gasket replacement quote
Post by: Eliteman Steve on 09 April 2008, 03:19:25
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Sometimes the rocker covers do warp. Had to have mine replaced aswell as the gaskets on my previous Omega but not at the cost you've been quoted! :o

Granted, i'm sure sometimes they DO need changed, but he claimed that was defo. the cause of the leak.
He hasn't even seen the car.

He's probably talking cr@p then. If like me, you can't do them yourself you're better off finding a decent independent garage that will do them at a fraction of VX's charges.

Yeah, i'm in the same boat as you mechanicaly mate, i havn't the skill, tools or time to do these jobs. I prefer to trust garages and folk who know their way round the engine bay.

The Job Realy isnt that hard and as for trusting garages :o

Your realy lucky if you've got a garage you can trust , but for peace of mind do it yourself :y There are good guides on this site and plenty of people to give advice . Just use genuine VX parts .
Title: Re: Comedy rocker gasket replacement quote
Post by: cockneyboy100 on 09 April 2008, 09:24:42
maybe he over priced job, cause he could not be bothered to do it

 :y
Title: Re: Comedy rocker gasket replacement quote
Post by: tmx on 09 April 2008, 10:10:34
it is a very easy job guys took me  4 hours on wednesday afternoon just take the inlet manifold all off and remove the injector rail taske all the HT leads off and undo the rocker cover bolts remove the covers and replace the gaskets!

it is easy its more time consuming than complex i aint no expert mechanic but i can do the odd jobs like this
Title: Re: Comedy rocker gasket replacement quote
Post by: CBH on 09 April 2008, 13:17:33
Hi
A quick word of warning, I kept putting off fixing the leak until I had time.
On the way home from work one day I had to overtake and gave it a boot full in sports mode as I got passed the gasket failed and dump the oil all over the hot exhaust result, a fire, and lots of smoke.

I put the fire out but had to change a few bits of plastic including the cam cover etc and the sound proofing on the bonnet all damage by the fire.
My advise is don't put off changing the gasket and fixing the leak
Title: Re: Comedy rocker gasket replacement quote
Post by: Ironingboard on 09 April 2008, 13:30:35
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least dick turpin wore a mask.

 :y

 ;D If Dick Turpin demanded 600 notes for the work, he might get it ;)

The dealer certainly is not.

Iain, what one in edinburgh did you go, I'm always getting bits from the VX in sighthill. They told me to change the cam covers as well. "Cam covers are warped, you can see them when you put them in a flat surface".

Its funny that because I changed my own gaskets and there is no way in hell to see the warped cam covers....... spark plug holes get in the way of getting it on a flat surface. Bunch of bandits in Edinburgh.
Title: Re: Comedy rocker gasket replacement quote
Post by: Iainv6 on 12 April 2008, 21:19:23
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least dick turpin wore a mask.

 :y

 ;D If Dick Turpin demanded 600 notes for the work, he might get it ;)

The dealer certainly is not.

Iain, what one in edinburgh did you go, I'm always getting bits from the VX in sighthill. They told me to change the cam covers as well. "Cam covers are warped, you can see them when you put them in a flat surface".

Its funny that because I changed my own gaskets and there is no way in hell to see the warped cam covers....... spark plug holes get in the way of getting it on a flat surface. Bunch of bandits in Edinburgh.

Yes mate, RV Vauxhall Sighthill >:( total bunch of bandits

It's now booked in at clan in Edinburgh, a reputable independant VX specialist. Reckons about 190-200 quid, oh and his labor rate is only £30!!
Title: Re: Comedy rocker gasket replacement quote
Post by: albitz on 12 April 2008, 21:23:34
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Hi
A quick word of warning, I kept putting off fixing the leak until I had time.
On the way home from work one day I had to overtake and gave it a boot full in sports mode as I got passed the gasket failed and dump the oil all over the hot exhaust result, a fire, and lots of smoke.

I put the fire out but had to change a few bits of plastic including the cam cover etc and the sound proofing on the bonnet all damage by the fire.
My advise is don't put off changing the gasket and fixing the leak
...it will also fry your plug leads and dis pack.
Title: Re: Comedy rocker gasket replacement quote
Post by: Iainv6 on 12 April 2008, 21:31:56
Thanks to everyone for the suggestions of DIY etc.

I will happily change a bulb or two, even change filters and oil, but i have no interest in getting stuck in about anything else ;)
I do love this site, i spend an inordinate amount of time here, reading interesting threads, but i mainly do this because i love the Omega so much. It is by far the best car i have ever owned.

I was after a couple of suggestions on good indy garrages etc.
who wouldn't try to rip me off for the gasket change :)

Iain
Title: Re: Comedy rocker gasket replacement quote
Post by: Iainv6 on 17 April 2008, 19:46:49
Final score- £193 inc VAT :y
Title: Re: Comedy rocker gasket replacement quote
Post by: cbs2 on 17 April 2008, 20:13:29
Hiya Iain
I was in the same boat as you m8.
I did my first oil change in september when I bought the mig.
The next job I tackled was the camcover gaskets!
Piece of cake, for about £80.00, you'll get the gaskets O rings etc. Spend 20 quid on a torx socket strip

Alot of things on the migs are deceptively simple & the many how2's help alot.
And I just did my cambelt last weekend - with the dvd :)