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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: silvershark on 27 April 2008, 11:39:02

Title: 2.2 paperclip test
Post by: silvershark on 27 April 2008, 11:39:02

Hi there does anybody hav a diagram of where the paperclip goes in on the 2.2petol.  I hav already done it on the 2.0l but the layout is not the same on the 2.2l

Help :-?

Title: Re: 2.2 paperclip test
Post by: tunnie on 27 April 2008, 11:40:19

you can't paperclip a 2.2

Only 2.0/2.5/3.0 petrols can be paper clipped.

Drive by wire engines, 2.2/2.6/3.2 cannot be paper clipped.

Need tech2, either real or cheapo

Title: Re: 2.2 paperclip test
Post by: Dazzler on 27 April 2008, 11:47:13

Quote

you can't paperclip a 2.2

Only 2.0/2.5/3.0 petrols can be paper clipped.

Drive by wire engines, 2.2/2.6/3.2 cannot be paper clipped.

Need tech2, either real or cheapo

As Mr Tunnie said ^^^^^^ ;)

Title: Re: 2.2 paperclip test
Post by: silvershark on 27 April 2008, 12:01:12

thanks for da help :y

Title: Re: 2.2 paperclip test
Post by: Auto Addict on 27 April 2008, 17:53:53

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thanks for da help :y

Are there problems with the 2.2?

Title: Re: 2.2 paperclip test
Post by: silvershark on 27 April 2008, 18:41:48

the 2.2 is going fine thanks just wanted to cheak it out as i had done it on my 2.0l

here the code 0335 was comming up on my 2.0l in the code manual it said it was incorrect RPM signal, do u know what this means.

Title: Re: 2.2 paperclip test
Post by: VXL V6 on 27 April 2008, 18:45:05

Crank Sensor IIRC

Title: Re: 2.2 paperclip test
Post by: silvershark on 27 April 2008, 18:54:10

the car is showing the cam sensor code 0340 as well would this be the norm with these? should i replace both and if so where is the crank sens located thanks.

Title: Re: 2.2 paperclip test
Post by: VXL V6 on 27 April 2008, 18:56:24

Cam Sensor far easier to replace than crank sensor, i'd do the cam sensor first and get the codes cleared and see what comes back.  :y

Title: Re: 2.2 paperclip test
Post by: silvershark on 27 April 2008, 19:01:15

good idea im guessing they wont clear themselves when i replace the cam sensor? would it be worth my while to invest in a cheapy tech 2. :-/

Title: Re: 2.2 paperclip test
Post by: VXL V6 on 27 April 2008, 19:28:49

If the problem is resolved the EML will not illuminate anymore. It's possible that the engine management is getting confused as both sensors are required otherwise the car will go into 'limp home' mode.

Not unknown for both sensors to fail around the 40K marks. As it's far easier to replace the Cam sensor I would do that first (get a genuine one as the eBay ones aren't too wonderful) and see if the lamp goes out.

Is the car limited to 4000 RPM? This is the limp home mode.

Title: Re: 2.2 paperclip test
Post by: silvershark on 27 April 2008, 19:42:51

yes it cuts out at 4500 rpm. it only started doing this today but when i did the paperclip test yesterday it gave me the cam sensor code 0340 but the eml wasnt on and had never come on. is it normal for the test to show codes even if the eml isnt on? :-?

Title: Re: 2.2 paperclip test
Post by: TheBoy on 27 April 2008, 19:45:08

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yes it cuts out at 4500 rpm. it only started doing this today but when i did the paperclip test yesterday it gave me the cam sensor code 0340 but the eml wasnt on and had never come on. is it normal for the test to show codes even if the eml isnt on? :-?

0340 common on 4 cylinder omegas. Change cam sensor.  Pattern ones known to be troublesome sometimes, so stick to genuine.

Title: Re: 2.2 paperclip test
Post by: VXL V6 on 27 April 2008, 19:46:55

If eml isn't on then the code is stored but not current. Cam / crank sensor on 2.0 can often be ok from cold then flag codes when warm.

Perhaps best to get the codes cleared and see what comes back.

Title: Re: 2.2 paperclip test
Post by: silvershark on 27 April 2008, 20:00:13

might just do that to be sure thank all.

Title: Re: 2.2 paperclip test
Post by: JONNYWAKEY on 27 April 2008, 20:09:05

I have to agree with TB, I had a pattern part Cam sensor and have had nothing but trouble with it.

I get P0340, P1700 faults all the time and have to try twice  to start the car!

Getting a Genuine Vauxhall sensor part No 90520850
IIRC.

Good Luck, these 2.2's are a real pain with the cam sensors, I think it could be due to the cable routing around the hot engine that causes heat to distort the sensitive signals to ECU.

Jonny