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Title: Help - nasty noise from engine bay
Post by: smity on 14 May 2008, 17:13:29
Hi,

Comeing home from work yesterday and could hear like a grinding metal on metal noise from engine bay bit like a rattle, investigating further it sounds to me like its coming from a pulley could it be a bearing gone or something?

any ideas?

I could post a video of the noise if wanted
Title: Re: Help - nasty noise from engine bay
Post by: rickyboy on 14 May 2008, 17:26:28
Go ahead and post the vid.
Title: Re: Help - nasty noise from engine bay
Post by: jonathanh on 14 May 2008, 17:27:30
update your profile so we know what car you have.  Could be related to the aux belt run and components in which case it is annoying and needs attention.  Could be related to cambelt and tensioners in which case it is very serious and do not use the car until it is fixed.

first step is probably to drop the aux belt off to see if it stops the noise.  If yes then it is related to aux belt.  If no then investigate further.

Title: Re: Help - nasty noise from engine bay
Post by: smity on 14 May 2008, 17:41:54
Sorry car is : p reg omega 2.5 v6

Looking at it i think its related to the aux belt maybe the tensioner pulley can i just buy a pulley and bearing to replace if it is that?
Title: Re: Help - nasty noise from engine bay
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 14 May 2008, 17:44:44
Pop the aux belt off and run it for a short period without to se if the noise goes away (dont run it long though as the water pump wont be driven).

If it does go away then check the alternator, tensioner pulley and water pump for play/roughness.

Its likely to be the aux tensioner pulley in which case you can get them as a seperate item for about 25 quid.
Title: Re: Help - nasty noise from engine bay
Post by: smity on 14 May 2008, 17:56:37
Ok belt off and ran no noise at all, so just got to see if i can find the problem pulley, but just span the tensioner pulley and it seemed ok :(
Title: Re: Help - nasty noise from engine bay
Post by: smity on 14 May 2008, 17:58:39
ok got it, its the bottom right hand corner pulley looks like it drives water pump? hard to turn and very stiff is this going to be a new pump jobby?
Title: Re: Help - nasty noise from engine bay
Post by: smity on 14 May 2008, 18:09:16
it has like a plate over the pully and the pully spins behind it?
Title: Re: Help - nasty noise from engine bay
Post by: Elite Pete on 14 May 2008, 18:11:24
IIRC Bottom right is the aircon pump.
Title: Re: Help - nasty noise from engine bay
Post by: rickyboy on 14 May 2008, 18:12:28
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IIRC Bottom right is the aircon pump.

Recalled correctly!  :y
Title: Re: Help - nasty noise from engine bay
Post by: smity on 14 May 2008, 18:17:52
right so do i need a new pump or could there be another fix?
Title: Re: Help - nasty noise from engine bay
Post by: rickyboy on 14 May 2008, 18:26:01
Personally I still think you need to change the tensioners.
Title: Re: Help - nasty noise from engine bay
Post by: Elite Pete on 14 May 2008, 18:26:31
A new one would cost a fortune, I would try a good second hand one.
Title: Re: Help - nasty noise from engine bay
Post by: smity on 14 May 2008, 18:32:47
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Personally I still think you need to change the tensioners.

The tensioner seems to spin freeley the aircon pulley doesent but it is driving a pump, there is a metal plate before the pulley which i can spin with the pulley stopped should these be a tighter fit?

Why do you think its the pulley mate?
Title: Re: Help - nasty noise from engine bay
Post by: smity on 14 May 2008, 18:33:37
i ment why do you think its the tensioner
Title: Re: Help - nasty noise from engine bay
Post by: rickyboy on 14 May 2008, 18:39:08
Hard to understand whats going on.  Any chance of posting a vid so we can get a better look.  Show us the tensioners and the air con compressor.  Just out of curiousity is there any difference when you turn the air con on?
Title: Re: Help - nasty noise from engine bay
Post by: smity on 14 May 2008, 18:42:46
is there anyway of fitting a non aircon belt to test if its that or the pulley?
Title: Re: Help - nasty noise from engine bay
Post by: smity on 14 May 2008, 18:45:37
yes there was a difference when the ac was on and off

Looks a pain to change
Title: Re: Help - nasty noise from engine bay
Post by: rickyboy on 14 May 2008, 18:47:26
Yes it definitely is a pain to change, I'm afraid.  What was the difference when turned on?  Did the noise go away?
Title: Re: Help - nasty noise from engine bay
Post by: smity on 14 May 2008, 18:50:40
it did go away for a while then when i was looking at it on the drive it just made it a bit quiter, ac works great tho which makes me think its just the pulley
Title: Re: Help - nasty noise from engine bay
Post by: smity on 14 May 2008, 18:51:22
do you know if you can fit a smaller belt or anything to bypass it as i need the car for work
Title: Re: Help - nasty noise from engine bay
Post by: Elite Pete on 14 May 2008, 18:52:21
There is an auxillary belt for cars without aircon :y
Title: Re: Help - nasty noise from engine bay
Post by: perfferle on 14 May 2008, 18:53:55
The aircon pulley should spin freely since it operates on a electrical clutch to engage the pulley to the compressor only when you switch on the AC.
Title: Re: Help - nasty noise from engine bay
Post by: smity on 14 May 2008, 19:01:01
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The aircon pulley should spin freely since it operates on a electrical clutch to engage the pulley to the compressor only when you switch on the AC.

so the fact that its not spinning freeley means?

I can't get the pulley off to look at because when i turn the nut with a ratchet the outer plate just spins and the pulley stays still and the nut spins with the plate  :-/
Title: Re: Help - nasty noise from engine bay
Post by: smity on 14 May 2008, 20:50:31
Thanks for all your help guys  :y

Anyone else got any input?
Title: Re: Help - nasty noise from engine bay
Post by: TheBoy on 14 May 2008, 21:47:54
My MV6 makes a noise when A/C off - seems to be noise in the a/c clutch....
Title: Re: Help - nasty noise from engine bay
Post by: smity on 15 May 2008, 18:27:32
Ok i changed the belt to a non ac belt to bypass the ac and it ran with no noise took it round the block and noise started cuming from the PAS different noise like when its low so got it home and looked and the power steering resivoir had been bubing like it was burning hot.

God knows whats happend now but rattle gone now this problem any ideas?
Title: Re: Help - nasty noise from engine bay
Post by: smity on 15 May 2008, 18:43:25
and its leaking power steering fluid from behind the driver side wheel?