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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: JamesV6CDX on 19 October 2007, 18:00:43
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Although I didn't feel much like car work, I decided to crack on with some of the jobs I want done today:
1) Car raised up on ramps:
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/000_0162.jpg)
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/000_0163.jpg)
2) Propshaft off, linkage off, hydraulics and electronics off, and gearbox off:
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/000_0164.jpg)
Now I removed the clutch kit. Observations were, that the old friction plate was quite worn and felt brittle. Pressure plate didn't look great, and the release bearing was donald ducked (lots of play) :
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/000_0156.jpg)
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/000_0157.jpg)
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/000_0158.jpg)
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/000_0161.jpg)
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/000_0160.jpg)
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/000_0159.jpg)
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/000_0168.jpg)
Here is a pic of the release bearing and slave cylinder inside the bellhousing (note the contamination, more on that later)
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/000_0165.jpg)
Here is a pic of the dual mass flywheel, didn't look great, but I've now cleaned it up so much I would eat off it!
Note - all the contamination around the lip of the flywheel. There was some in the bellhousing too. It is a combination of friction material, and what looked like a rubber bung, that had found it's way into the box and chewed up in the clutch!!
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/000_0173.jpg)
And here is the spigot bearing, in the crankshaft. This bearing felt fine to turn with my finger:
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/000_0174.jpg)
Here are some pics of the new clutch kit which is now fitted - note I'm using a clutch alignment tool, to align the friction plate EXACTLY where it needs to be on the pressure plate:
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/000_0155.jpg)
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/000_0170.jpg)
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/000_0169.jpg)
Here is my nice shiny new genuine GM exhaust system, cats backwards.
I noticed that the old exhaust was FULL of bits, and quite blocked. Hopefully this was accounting for the poor performance, and quite likely why it failed.
This new system is now fitted to the car:
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/000_0171.jpg)
As far as jobs to do are concerned - I need to get a new thrust bearing, so it's on hold till I can get that.
I then just need to fit the gearbox, and I should be away. I also need to drill the cat retaining bolts out of the cat pipes, they always break off, but that's no big deal. Thankfully my cats are Genuine GM too, and felt totally fine, no rattling and they are both totally clear.
Total cost, is
£280 for the new genuine exhaust system (inc all new rubbers)
£135 for the clutch kit
£30 on consumables, eg gearbox oil, clutch cleaner...
£445 so far.
Once this is done, I can then fit the 3.0 cams, and fit a new cambelt kit, waterpump, aux belt and tensioner.
But for now, I need to get cleaned up, and spend the evening with Maria. I am about to start a run of nightshifts, so unfortunately won't be finishing off the car until probably Wednesday afternoon and / or Thursday morning.
Coming along nicely though :)
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Very informative ... I wondered what one of these "clutch" things folks talk about was .. now I know .. !! :)
Seriously .. is that really high enough to get access to drop the gearbox ?? I'd have thought much higher was needed. Good days work .. :y :y
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James you make it all sound like a piece of cake :o
Nice photos and a very Interesting post :y
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You make it look so easy James I would love to see the state of my Clutch i bet its just as bad as yours.
Are you keeping this Omega this time James ?
Start using the macro setting on your camera its a little symbol like this
(http://static.flickr.com/11/96990454_23d4e93860_m.jpg)
Craig
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Yes, I'm keeping it Craig, for a long time. Once it's 100% overhauled, it will be time to add the LPG...
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You make it look so easy James I would love to see the state of my Clutch i bet its just as bad as yours.
Are you keeping this Omega this time James ?
Start using the macro setting on your camera its a little symbol like this
(http://static.flickr.com/11/96990454_23d4e93860_m.jpg)
Craig
Educate me, what does that do :-/
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Well done James, be careful under the car mate, those ramps dont look to clever.
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It enables a close up to be sharper. Hence alot of digital cameras that dont have a macro lens are blurred when close up
Matt
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Well done James, be careful under the car mate, those ramps dont look to clever.
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They don't look very wide! How did you get your ramps that way round? ;) ;)
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more to the point :y
when using ramps for supporting the car in that fashion, i always have one facing the other way so even if you push the car forwards or backwards it cant roll off the ramps !!
doing it this way means you can then jack the entire rear end of the car up and the car remains stable on the ramps
jm2pw :y
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As you're an expert in ripping out gearboxes, I think Tunnie may be after a hand ;)
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:)Tidy looking motor,reckon your effort's worthwhile. :y
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:)Tidy looking motor,reckon your effort's worthwhile. :y
Something wrong with that car though... ...bit slippery at the back ::). Also, suffers with brake fade. Apparently ::)
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Something wrong with that car though... ...bit slippery at the back ::).
Not now it's got some brand new tyres on...
Also, suffers with brake fade. Apparently ::)
Only when it's driven by hooligans ;D - I've never had a braking problem with it - have you steve? ;)
But... seeing as Jaime is so insistant it suffers with Brake fade.. maybe he would like to volunteer to change all the fluid in my calipers.... ;D ;D
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All good tips, although bear in mind that at all times I was under it, I had additional support, and wheel chocks at the rear....
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looking good mate, those manual boxes look tiny compared to the auto boxes!
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So talented, can learn a lot from you. :y
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..... I had additional support, ....
:-? You? or the car? ::) ::)
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..... I had additional support, ....
:-? You? or the car? ::) ::)
the car ;D
Looking like I'm going to have to get this box back on single handed though, could be fun!
It's a lot smaller and lighter than an autobox - but still bloody awkward!
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I'd appreciate opinions, on whether the above pics demonstrate the cause of not being able to select gears from a standing start... :)
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How did you get the car on the ramps, that way round?
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How did you get the car on the ramps, that way round?
I'm suspecting he jacked it up, then placed the ramps under. Although it would need to be jacked pretty high!
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How did you get the car on the ramps, that way round?
Jacked it up with my big manly jack...
Any opinions on the clutch condition etc?
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Any opinions on the clutch condition etc?
Whats a clutch?
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Any opinions on the clutch condition etc?
Whats a clutch?
Its one of those thangies that need 3 pedals.....as we know proper cars only have two ;D ;)
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How did you get the car on the ramps, that way round?
You wernt paying attention at the Lakes meet AA >:( ;D
Did the same to Bobs but the rear :y
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you make it all sound so easy :-[ :y
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Cn someone comment on the condition of the old clutch components? Pretty please? :'(
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Cn someone comment on the condition of the old clutch components? Pretty please? :'(
Well......i saw the one that came out of your veccyB......when the garage was changing the g/b.....garage owner comments where......no point putting that clutch back in....we'll put a new clutch kit on it.
It looked far worse a state than yours......and used to judder when hot, changing gear......but then it had done about 90k miles.....
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Cn someone comment on the condition of the old clutch components? Pretty please? :'(
Well......i saw the one that came out of your veccyB......when the garage was changing the g/b.....garage owner comments where......no point putting that clutch back in....we'll put a new clutch kit on it.
It looked far worse a state than yours......and used to judder when hot, changing gear......but then it had done about 90k miles.....
This one has done about 100k
I hope the new one makes the gearchange better, but I guess there's only one way to find out :D
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Any opinions on the clutch condition etc?
Whats a clutch?
Its one of those thangies that need 3 pedals.....as we know proper cars only have two ;D ;)
Dunno what kind of cars you've been driving but I've only ever driven cars with one clutch pedal... I guess maybe a Sherman tank has two clutch pedals so you can disengage drive to each set of caterpillars individually ::)
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This one has done about 100k
I hope the new one makes the gearchange better, but I guess there's only one way to find out :D
Mine was changed at ~165k, and was still drivable but would slip a little when driven hard. Didn't see what it looked like cos I put the car into a garage.
Not sure if the 2.5 clutch is the same as the 3.0, but if it is you should have lots of life left considering the lower power, as long as it's not been abused. Personally I would change it anyway while it's out and you know it's good for another 150k but it's up to you.
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This one has done about 100k
I hope the new one makes the gearchange better, but I guess there's only one way to find out :D
Mine was changed at ~165k, and was still drivable but would slip a little when driven hard. Didn't see what it looked like cos I put the car into a garage.
Not sure if the 2.5 clutch is the same as the 3.0, but if it is you should have lots of life left considering the lower power, as long as it's not been abused. Personally I would change it anyway while it's out and you know it's good for another 150k but it's up to you.
the new one is already fitted to the flywheel, just need to pop the box on...
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Fair enough, good call :)