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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: garbage456 on 14 June 2008, 14:34:31
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do little mileage in the car, about 180 a month, but it still costs £60 to fill up (and that isnt flooring it before you ask)
was thinking of an LPG conversion but just got quote of net and they said will cost £2400 to do !!!!! that means it will take about 10 years before we start saving money,
Is there anywhere that does it cheaper?
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does it affect insurance?
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I also heard about a government grant any idea how much this is?
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DIY will set you back a lot less -- I am sure the guys in the know on the forum will advise.
Insurance wise -- some companies add a little, some don't -- shop around and see what is available.
I think the grant system is gone and dusted and only related to newer vehicles anyway.
The way petrol is going payback times for conversions are getting shorter all the time !
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Theres a bloke in Cardiff that will fit a multi point injection system for £1100 and it takes a day.
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Theres a bloke in Cardiff that will fit a multi point injection system for £1100 and it takes a day.
yeah but it will cost £1500 in petrol costs to get over there :)
:y
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on eBay you can by a 6 cylinder multipoint system for just shy of 600 quid (then you need to buy a tank).
there is a conversion company by me that would do it for 1500 notes.
would be interested to get the info from the place in cardiff, though.
but its only woth doing IF you plan to keep the car a fair while.
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Theres a bloke in Cardiff that will fit a multi point injection system for £1100 and it takes a day.
well its certainly better than £2300 trouble is, any problems, getting over there would be a nightmare.
hmmm as for DIY i just couldnt do that, time being another reason.
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Theres a bloke in Cardiff that will fit a multi point injection system for £1100 and it takes a day.
well it would take me four years, (I will keep the car that long yes) to make it worthwhile (still its better than the 10 year option :) )
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i see LPG about 49 per litle, unleaded is about 120 a litre but what about MPG is it the same?
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MPG is about 3-4 miles less to the gallon on LPG.
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MPG is about 3-4 miles less to the gallon on LPG.
thats good to know cheers :y
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on eBay you can by a 6 cylinder multipoint system for just shy of 600 quid (then you need to buy a tank).
there is a conversion company by me that would do it for 1500 notes.
would be interested to get the info from the place in cardiff, though.
but its only woth doing IF you plan to keep the car a fair while.
From Jeremy a complete DIY 6 pot system can be had for around 600-700 depending on details. :y
Kevin
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From Jeremy a complete DIY 6 pot system can be had for around 600-700 depending on details. :y
Kevin[/quote]
How do I contact Jeremy
Thanks
Alan
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i have done 2 diy conversions now, that doesn't make me an expert on the subject but i have a good idea of the pitfalls.
As Kevin has said DIY kits can be bought for about £650, i have just paid £630 for a multi point kit, 80l tank and a few other bits that i specifically wanted.
It took me 3 days pretty much flat out to do the job, now there are a few people who have seen my car and have commented on how 'hidden' the kit look, and this was the look i wanted, i could have taken less time and but i am not sure the install would have looked as good.
I have no doubt this chap in Cardiff can do an install in a day, but i would want to see the quality of his work before committing.
people in the LPG arena would have you believe this is a black art to an installation, there isn't, if you read the LPGA code of practice you will get a fairly good idea what you can and cant do.
Insurers - many insurers do not seem to increase premiums for LPG conversions, however you HAVE to tell them the car has been converted as this classifies as a modification.
You will lose about 10% of the engines power running on LPG, in all the time i have been running i have never noticed it, MPG will be down by about 5MPG, but remember you are paying nearly 50% less than you would if it was petrol.
If you have a cylinder tank then you would lose about a 3rd of your boot with an 80 - 100l tank, there are tanks that will fit in the spare wheel well but then are about 55 - 60l max and so may not offer the best range in the world, plus they come at a premium price as well.
hope that helps
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From Jeremy a complete DIY 6 pot system can be had for around 600-700 depending on details. :y
Kevin
How do I contact Jeremy
Thanks
Alan[/quote]
Look on ebay for a seller called u-fit-lpg, that's Jeremy
a number of us have used him/will be using him or have just spoken to him for advice, he really does know his stuff when it comes to LPG and his customer service is excellent
here's one of his auction, bear in mind this price does not include a tank
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MOTOGAS-AC-6-CYLINDER-LPG-INJECTION-GAS-CONVERSION-KIT_W0QQitemZ330244146466QQihZ014QQcategoryZ36631QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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I fill my tank once a week, about £35 (70ltr) and put £5 of petrol, just to start it. Not had any trouble at all and if you use the non forecourt suppliers the price is approx 47 - 49p per ltr compared with £1.15 - £1.18, there really is no comparision
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I fill my tank once a week, about £35 (70ltr) and put £5 of petrol, just to start it. Not had any trouble at all and if you use the non forecourt suppliers the price is approx 47 - 49p per ltr compared with £1.15 - £1.18, there really is no comparision
non-forecourt suppliers? What do you mean?
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I have a supplier called Harris gas and you pay in advance ie £100 up front and you go and fill up till the £100 is used up then you pay again, this way I will get LPG for 42p per litre so well worth it :y
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I was thinking of fitting a cone filter and putting the vapourizer where the old airbox was. Now I know all the pitfalls of the cone filter, noise, warm air, oil on maf but was thinking of space. What do you think?
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I was thinking of fitting a cone filter and putting the vapourizer where the old airbox was. Now I know all the pitfalls of the cone filter, noise, warm air, oil on maf but was thinking of space. What do you think?
No need mate, a vapouriser will fit under the standard airbox, that is unless it is mahusive
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At your mileage level I would think twice, I think HMG has already hit LPG for more tax and the sad truth is the more people using it the more attention it will attract from the revenue.
Not to say it's not worth doing for higher mileage use, but longer term sadly it will likely be made less attractive by increasing taxation.
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Mine doesn't appear to have lost any power compared to supermarket petrol
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I have a supplier called Harris gas and you pay in advance ie £100 up front and you go and fill up till the £100 is used up then you pay again, this way I will get LPG for 42p per litre so well worth it :y
Im gonna have to investigate on my options........i was paying 59ppl.......until this weekend and the local shell garage ran out.....managed to fill up outa town (gotta a job going there).........but it cost me 62ppl :(
I need a tankfull every day (38L).......so keep running outa town isnt an option for me :(
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is there not a "countrywide" near you?
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At your mileage level I would think twice, I think HMG has already hit LPG for more tax and the sad truth is the more people using it the more attention it will attract from the revenue.
Not to say it's not worth doing for higher mileage use, but longer term sadly it will likely be made less attractive by increasing taxation.
If you wanna keep your Omega then yes I would agree convert it.......but it will take quite a long time to get your money back on conversion......years!! Buy a diesel maybe ?? I looking at getting one (not omega).......its costing me the same in LPG as guys running about in diesels........even with these silly diesel prices!!
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If you have TomTom then goto this link and the free download for non forecourt LPG stations is there.
hope it's ok to link , if not could admin move to a relevant, thread.
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/tomtompoi.php
I have found 2, 2 miles from me and both are 49p / ltr
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is there not a "countrywide" near you?
Dont mention them!!
Used to use them.....then key stopped working.....asked for new key.....they sent......still didnt work........gave up........and dont think they are much cheaper anyway
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is there not a "countrywide" near you?
Dont mention them!!
Used to use them.....then key stopped working.....asked for new key.....they sent......still didnt work........gave up........and dont think they are much cheaper anyway
At the moment .. countrywide is 57.5 p/ltr, shell is 58.9. autocolour in Wootty B is 62.0, and I don't know the calor price ... but countyrwide are winning IMHO .. :)
Thats all the Swindon LPG I know of ...
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is there not a "countrywide" near you?
Dont mention them!!
Used to use them.....then key stopped working.....asked for new key.....they sent......still didnt work........gave up........and dont think they are much cheaper anyway
At the moment .. countrywide is 57.5 p/ltr, shell is 58.9. autocolour in Wootty B is 62.0, and I don't know the calor price ... but countyrwide are winning IMHO .. :)
Thats all the Swindon LPG I know of ...
Do you mean the place in Gypsy Lane?? Im gonna go see how much they charge today.....as Shell garage still wont have any......but normally when shell do have supplies....theres not much difference between them and Countrywide.....plus my Omega seems to run better on the Shell stuff.......i think its mixed with summat else :-/
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is there not a "countrywide" near you?
Dont mention them!!
Used to use them.....then key stopped working.....asked for new key.....they sent......still didnt work........gave up........and dont think they are much cheaper anyway
At the moment .. countrywide is 57.5 p/ltr, shell is 58.9. autocolour in Wootty B is 62.0, and I don't know the calor price ... but countyrwide are winning IMHO .. :)
Thats all the Swindon LPG I know of ...
Do you mean the place in Gypsy Lane?? Im gonna go see how much they charge today.....as Shell garage still wont have any......but normally when shell do have supplies....theres not much difference between them and Countrywide.....plus my Omega seems to run better on the Shell stuff.......i think its mixed with summat else :-/
Yup .. filled up there once when I first got the LPG ... seems a reasonable system, but I don't know their latest price. You have much more experience with LPG than I .. so far I've not noticed any diference between brands (other than cost!!), although in theory I believe the propane/butane mix can vary and will give different characteristics. I like the countrywide place on both cost and convenience ... 24/7 and don't need any cash/card handling .. simply hits the account :) .. but I know some folks don't like that and prefer to "pay as they go" ... horses for courses I guess ..
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Shame Countrywide don't live up to their name, really. :(
Kevin
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Shame Countrywide don't live up to their name, really. :(
Kevin
I agree, while im working in Wiltshire I would be fine but if I go up North, theres none about.
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True .. Countrywide are somewhat "parochial" ... :(
(http://www.countrywidefarmers.co.uk/pws//images/energy/autogas/refueling_outlets.jpg)
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is there not a "countrywide" near you?
Dont mention them!!
Used to use them.....then key stopped working.....asked for new key.....they sent......still didnt work........gave up........and dont think they are much cheaper anyway
At the moment .. countrywide is 57.5 p/ltr, shell is 58.9. autocolour in Wootty B is 62.0, and I don't know the calor price ... but countyrwide are winning IMHO .. :)
Thats all the Swindon LPG I know of ...
Do you mean the place in Gypsy Lane?? Im gonna go see how much they charge today.....as Shell garage still wont have any......but normally when shell do have supplies....theres not much difference between them and Countrywide.....plus my Omega seems to run better on the Shell stuff.......i think its mixed with summat else :-/
Yup .. filled up there once when I first got the LPG ... seems a reasonable system, but I don't know their latest price. You have much more experience with LPG than I .. so far I've not noticed any diference between brands (other than cost!!), although in theory I believe the propane/butane mix can vary and will give different characteristics. I like the countrywide place on both cost and convenience ... 24/7 and don't need any cash/card handling .. simply hits the account :) .. but I know some folks don't like that and prefer to "pay as they go" ... horses for courses I guess ..
PRICE ALERT entwood.........54ppl :y
Filled up this morning at 9pm.....will have to back again this afternoon.....ive nearly used it all!!
Hours of opening 8am to 5pm Mon to Fri......8am to 12am Sat
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Good lord 59/62p a litre!! Im paying 49p at the local Calor center in Liverpool.
I bought my Elite already converted, If you look long enough the right one will come up so why not sell yours and buy one thats done already, You wouldnt lose the cost of a conversion and might even lose nowt ;)