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Title: Elite Washer Bottle
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 18 June 2008, 21:33:26
MOT today, wipers and washers fine.

Goes to my mates afterwards and no water.   Had a think back knowing the bottle and all fluids had been checked, but was surprised as I hadnt used the washers much.

Topped up, took 0.5 litre of water, washer now working fine.

Why only .5 litre from not working to working.


Any idea's, am going to check it out tomorrow as I remember a mention regards water filter/pickup.

TIA.   :y
Title: Re: Elite Washer Bottle
Post by: feeutfo on 19 June 2008, 00:46:06
my 99 cdx used to do that, nevr found out why, thought it was as if the fluid had run back down the pipes to the bottle and took ages to pump back up to the nozzle again. used to pump air then come back again after dash warning as well, as if to make you think it had run out and need to fill it again but there was always a bit more in there. :-/
Title: Re: Elite Washer Bottle
Post by: feeutfo on 19 June 2008, 00:49:06
ps clean the filter gromit??? :-?
Title: Re: Elite Washer Bottle
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 19 June 2008, 00:54:42
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ps clean the filter gromit??? :-?


 :y :y
Title: Re: Elite Washer Bottle
Post by: robbo299 on 19 June 2008, 00:55:17
I had the dash warning up on my elite some time ago and kept filling it up every week. Turned out that the previous owner may have taken out the pumps to clean filters and didn't put it back properly and it had a slow leak. As it was over the winter months i didn't notice it as the roads were mainly wet most of the time. When i did notice the leak i took out both pumps, one for screens and the other for headlights, and cleaned filters and replaced properly. no probs since then. Only a 10 min job to do both. :y
Title: Re: Elite Washer Bottle
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 19 June 2008, 01:07:32
Cheers matey, will check it out tomorrow.   :y :y
Title: Re: Elite Washer Bottle
Post by: JasonH on 19 June 2008, 07:10:52
Intermittent washer operation is usually lumps of gung block the pump filter.

2 mins to sort, but plug the hole with your finger whilst doing it or you'll lose all your washer fluid.
Title: Re: Elite Washer Bottle
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 19 June 2008, 07:44:26
I might forget that bit, as it will be my mate doing it.  lol    ;D ;D :y :y
Title: Re: Elite Washer Bottle
Post by: HerefordElite on 19 June 2008, 08:35:39
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I had the dash warning up on my elite some time ago and kept filling it up every week. Turned out that the previous owner may have taken out the pumps to clean filters and didn't put it back properly and it had a slow leak. As it was over the winter months i didn't notice it as the roads were mainly wet most of the time. When i did notice the leak i took out both pumps, one for screens and the other for headlights, and cleaned filters and replaced properly. no probs since then. Only a 10 min job to do both. :y


how do you clean the filters? i've got the bottle out at the moment due to accident so might as well spruce it up while it's in bits :y
Title: Re: Elite Washer Bottle
Post by: Lazydocker on 19 June 2008, 08:42:04
Mine just seems to go stagnant and smelly really quickly!  :o :o
Title: Re: Elite Washer Bottle
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 19 June 2008, 08:44:22
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Mine just seems to go stagnant and smelly really quickly!  :o :o

Do you use screen wash or just plain water?  I would be tempted to pop the pump out and flush it 2 or or 3 times and then refit the pump and fill it back up and see if it makes a difference.
Title: Re: Elite Washer Bottle
Post by: Lazydocker on 19 June 2008, 08:53:23
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Mine just seems to go stagnant and smelly really quickly!  :o :o

Do you use screen wash or just plain water?  I would be tempted to pop the pump out and flush it 2 or or 3 times and then refit the pump and fill it back up and see if it makes a difference.

Tried doing this and still goes smelly quite quickly! I might try a stronger concentration of screenwash, although I already have it quite strong!

I can only assume it's because of the location of the bottle meaning it gets warmed a little by the rad? :-/ :-/
Title: Re: Elite Washer Bottle
Post by: Jimbob on 19 June 2008, 08:59:54
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Mine just seems to go stagnant and smelly really quickly!  :o :o

Do you use screen wash or just plain water?  I would be tempted to pop the pump out and flush it 2 or or 3 times and then refit the pump and fill it back up and see if it makes a difference.

Tried doing this and still goes smelly quite quickly! I might try a stronger concentration of screenwash, although I already have it quite strong!

I can only assume it's because of the location of the bottle meaning it gets warmed a little by the rad? :-/ :-/

Not got a dead animal stuffed in there have you?

Never noticed stagnant / smelly washer bottles  :-?
Title: Re: Elite Washer Bottle
Post by: Andy B on 19 June 2008, 09:10:46
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Intermittent washer operation is usually lumps of gung block the pump filter.

2 mins to sort, but plug the hole with your finger whilst doing it or you'll lose all your washer fluid.

Easier with a face lift car though as the bottle is in full view when you have the bonnet open.  ;) Lesser mortals have a grille to remove to gain access!  ;D  :y
A Bic pen also seals the grommet nicely if it's just the pump you're removing.
Title: Re: Elite Washer Bottle
Post by: Lazydocker on 19 June 2008, 10:00:10
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Mine just seems to go stagnant and smelly really quickly!  :o :o

Do you use screen wash or just plain water?  I would be tempted to pop the pump out and flush it 2 or or 3 times and then refit the pump and fill it back up and see if it makes a difference.

Tried doing this and still goes smelly quite quickly! I might try a stronger concentration of screenwash, although I already have it quite strong!

I can only assume it's because of the location of the bottle meaning it gets warmed a little by the rad? :-/ :-/

Not got a dead animal stuffed in there have you?

Never noticed stagnant / smelly washer bottles  :-?

The thought had crossed my mind! But no... Perhaps it'll sort itself out if I used them more! I might not treat the screen with rainex for a while and see if I get an improvement when I need to use the washers more! :-?
Title: Re: Elite Washer Bottle
Post by: JueV6 on 19 June 2008, 10:38:16
Mine failed it's MOT on no water. It had water but the filter was blocked, >:(
Title: Re: Elite Washer Bottle
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 19 June 2008, 11:05:15
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Mine failed it's MOT on no water. It had water but the filter was blocked, >:(


I was fortunate then, It worked for the MOT and then didnt work the next try.  I can hear the pump ok, so it's got to be the filter.
Title: Re: Elite Washer Bottle
Post by: JueV6 on 19 June 2008, 11:08:33
 2 min fix skruntie, just have the hose ready to refill it LOL :y
Title: Re: Elite Washer Bottle
Post by: Jimbob on 19 June 2008, 11:12:40
I would whip the pump out, flush the tank, clean the filter.

If that doesnt improve things, check nothing is crushing the wiper hose, and maybe fit a non return valve in the pipe as well
Title: Re: Elite Washer Bottle
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 19 June 2008, 11:37:46
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2 min fix skruntie, just have the hose ready to refill it LOL :y

Bit far to drive matey, but if you have the tools and ramps to do a service at the same time and a quick valet, then I could just nip down,
   ;D ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: Elite Washer Bottle
Post by: JueV6 on 19 June 2008, 11:40:42
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2 min fix skruntie, just have the hose ready to refill it LOL :y

Bit far to drive matey, but if you have the tools and ramps to do a service at the same time and a quick valet, then I could just nip down,
   ;D ;D ;D :y

2 mins  for you to fix matey, but i'm willing to come up if you wanna return the service and valet offer. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Elite Washer Bottle
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 19 June 2008, 11:59:49
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2 min fix skruntie, just have the hose ready to refill it LOL :y

Bit far to drive matey, but if you have the tools and ramps to do a service at the same time and a quick valet, then I could just nip down,
   ;D ;D ;D :y

2 mins  for you to fix matey, but i'm willing to come up if you wanna return the service and valet offer. ;D ;D ;D

Nice one matey, couple of good car wash's near me   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Elite Washer Bottle
Post by: JueV6 on 19 June 2008, 12:17:32
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2 min fix skruntie, just have the hose ready to refill it LOL :y

Bit far to drive matey, but if you have the tools and ramps to do a service at the same time and a quick valet, then I could just nip down,
   ;D ;D ;D :y


2 mins  for you to fix matey, but i'm willing to come up if you wanna return the service and valet offer. ;D ;D ;D

Nice one matey, couple of good car wash's near me   ;D ;D ;D


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

It's gonna need the "skruntie" Personal touch ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Elite Washer Bottle
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 19 June 2008, 12:38:54
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2 min fix skruntie, just have the hose ready to refill it LOL :y

Bit far to drive matey, but if you have the tools and ramps to do a service at the same time and a quick valet, then I could just nip down,
   ;D ;D ;D :y


2 mins  for you to fix matey, but i'm willing to come up if you wanna return the service and valet offer. ;D ;D ;D

Nice one matey, couple of good car wash's near me   ;D ;D ;D


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

It's gonna need the "skruntie" Personal touch ;D ;D ;D



You must live life dangerously matey.

Me doing anything on a car, I DONT THINK SO.

5 mins and I drop a cloth or the leather, spill the polish, catch the door mirror, next thing I would be picking up the hammer and doing a Leepu (chop shop garage)and redesigning the bonnet and wings.

The problem is I dont have Leepu's vison or talent, so you might come up with a Miggy but you might go home in a TopGear style designed car. (Probably the one built out of washing machines and tumble drier's)  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

http://www.discoverychannel.co.uk/chopshop/_home/index.shtml
Title: Re: Elite Washer Bottle
Post by: HerefordElite on 20 June 2008, 00:07:43
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I had the dash warning up on my elite some time ago and kept filling it up every week. Turned out that the previous owner may have taken out the pumps to clean filters and didn't put it back properly and it had a slow leak. As it was over the winter months i didn't notice it as the roads were mainly wet most of the time. When i did notice the leak i took out both pumps, one for screens and the other for headlights, and cleaned filters and replaced properly. no probs since then. Only a 10 min job to do both. :y


how do you clean the filters? i've got the bottle out at the moment due to accident so might as well spruce it up while it's in bits :y


ok read the maintainence guide - should the headlight wash pump (the bigger of the two) have a filter coz mine hasn't?
Title: Re: Elite Washer Bottle
Post by: Jimbob on 20 June 2008, 07:39:47
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I had the dash warning up on my elite some time ago and kept filling it up every week. Turned out that the previous owner may have taken out the pumps to clean filters and didn't put it back properly and it had a slow leak. As it was over the winter months i didn't notice it as the roads were mainly wet most of the time. When i did notice the leak i took out both pumps, one for screens and the other for headlights, and cleaned filters and replaced properly. no probs since then. Only a 10 min job to do both. :y


how do you clean the filters? i've got the bottle out at the moment due to accident so might as well spruce it up while it's in bits :y


ok read the maintainence guide - should the headlight wash pump (the bigger of the two) have a filter coz mine hasn't?

No, there is only a filter on the windscreen pump.  Just a big grommit for the HID pump  :y