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Title: Rear coil spring and front Steering Idler arm...
Post by: cannonfodder on 23 June 2008, 20:28:32
Hi folks

My miggy just failed its MOT  :-[, er nowt serious thankfully.
Its the small front Idler arm and the offside rear coil spring.

Just a quick query to you knowledgeable chaps, are they DIY'able things, and at a rough guess any ideas how much these two bits cost?

Gotta phone VX in the morning, just wondered if anyone knew off the top of their heads!

thanks in advance,

john
Title: Re: Rear coil spring and front Steering Idler arm...
Post by: The Duck. on 23 June 2008, 20:36:00
i just lowered my mig and the rear springs r easy. just drop the back shock at the wishbone and take off the bolt that holds the antiroll bar. This allowes u to be able to remove the spring with a nail bar r something like that.

Title: Re: Rear coil spring and front Steering Idler arm...
Post by: tunnie on 23 June 2008, 20:40:37
rear springs £44 each, replace in pairs, about 1/2 hours for your average joe to replace.
Title: Re: Rear coil spring and front Steering Idler arm...
Post by: tunnie on 23 June 2008, 20:42:08
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i just lowered my mig and the rear springs r easy. just drop the back shock at the wishbone and take off the bolt that holds the antiroll bar. This allowes u to be able to remove the spring with a nail bar r something like that.


That only works putting smaller springs in, putting standard ones back in that way is nearly impossible.

Best way is to lower the diff
Title: Re: Rear coil spring and front Steering Idler arm...
Post by: The Duck. on 23 June 2008, 20:42:50
you can buy a complete lowering kit for £100 (all 4 springs)
Title: Re: Rear coil spring and front Steering Idler arm...
Post by: The Duck. on 23 June 2008, 20:45:13
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i just lowered my mig and the rear springs r easy. just drop the back shock at the wishbone and take off the bolt that holds the antiroll bar. This allowes u to be able to remove the spring with a nail bar r something like that.


That only works putting smaller springs in, putting standard ones back in that way is nearly impossible.

Best way is to lower the diff

Oh yea thats rite i lowered mine thats why it was easy getting them back in  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Rear coil spring and front Steering Idler arm...
Post by: tunnie on 23 June 2008, 20:45:48
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you can buy a complete lowering kit for £100 (all 4 springs)

Yup you can, but not everyone wants to lower the car.

If you want to just replace the springs with standard ones, lower the diff.

Get KYB which are the OEM supplier.
Title: Re: Rear coil spring and front Steering Idler arm...
Post by: cannonfodder on 23 June 2008, 20:48:28
doesnt sound toooooo bad then...  is the steering ideler much of a job does anyone know, just found one for about 40 notes, sound right?
cheers
John
Title: Re: Rear coil spring and front Steering Idler arm...
Post by: The Duck. on 23 June 2008, 20:50:32
sorry can't help you there as i've not done one yet. But someone will know here
Title: Re: Rear coil spring and front Steering Idler arm...
Post by: tunnie on 23 June 2008, 21:02:50
not done it either myself, price sounds about right, remember it was fairly cheap.

Easy DIY too  :)
Title: Re: Rear coil spring and front Steering Idler arm...
Post by: serek on 23 June 2008, 21:07:16
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you can buy a complete lowering kit for £100 (all 4 springs)


where u buy from all set springs for 100 quid ?
Title: Re: Rear coil spring and front Steering Idler arm...
Post by: Lazydocker on 23 June 2008, 21:09:46
To do the springs invest in a decent set of spring assisters... They aren't expensive, or essential, but will make the whole job much easier!!! You can also use them for many other tasks, like making front wishbones easier as I am led to believe!!! ::) ::) :y :y

The idler, I've not done one but I believe it's a doddle and that price seems pretty good!
Title: Re: Rear coil spring and front Steering Idler arm...
Post by: The Duck. on 23 June 2008, 21:10:37
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you can buy a complete lowering kit for £100 (all 4 springs)


where u buy from all set springs for 100 quid ?


any auto spares shop
Title: Re: Rear coil spring and front Steering Idler arm...
Post by: ians on 23 June 2008, 21:20:47
The idler is straightforward - there is a trick to removal described in the maintenance guide on here.  I think I paid 30 quid for mine.
Title: Re: Rear coil spring and front Steering Idler arm...
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 23 June 2008, 21:52:41
Both the rear springs and idler arm have maintenance guides to give details on how to fit. Dont go prising the trailing arms to change the springs or you risk damaging the rear subframe bushes and flexi brake hoses.

The KYB rear springs are good but, watch for the pattern idlers as they dont last......there are some good ones on ebay for about 35 quid delivered.
Title: Re: Rear coil spring and front Steering Idler arm...
Post by: tunnie on 23 June 2008, 22:04:41
The Duck - Can you please fix your signature image!

I have to scroll it as i am going down the page, please just remove all images from it.
Title: Re: Rear coil spring and front Steering Idler arm...
Post by: Turk on 23 June 2008, 22:25:46
Yep, lowering the diff is the easiest for defo.  I did mine about a fortnight ago.  I asked the question here and followed the reply. Took longer to jack up and support the car on axle stands than it took to change the springs.
 
As for lowering the suspension...yes, a lowered Miggy with 17"+ alloys looks awesome and handles real nice for a big old barge but you'll need to get the geometry set up properly or you'll wear through the inner sides like the tyres were made of butter.  
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Post by: dbug on 24 June 2008, 00:03:19
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The Duck - Can you please fix your signature image!

I have to scroll it as i am going down the page, please just remove all images from it.

Agreed - animated gif + large jpg!  See forum guidelines - http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?virboard=Newbies;num=1209458172

Your sig is over the top!
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Post by: Jimbob on 24 June 2008, 10:05:37
Just download Adblock plus and turn it off!

I have no avatars or signature images!

If anyone wants it, can email you my block file  :D