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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: feeutfo on 20 June 2008, 09:44:59
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changed oil weekend, got car 3 weeks ago, last service was 14 moths before, and just started(twice) to get a rattle from left bank on cold start up. Oil obviously not good and crusty flakes round filler neck(normal?) dislodged by funle probably. Local mek said to flush it, not keen from what i hear on here, but he also mentioned to flush with diesel!!! Due to its detergent qualitys. Just want to stop the rattle myself as oil changed 6 days ago now and rattle still there, maybe slightly better. Whats best thing? Cheers
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..... Whats best thing? Cheers
Some more oil changes. :y Trade Club prices will give you an oil change for less than £15.
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changed oil weekend, got car 3 weeks ago, last service was 14 moths before, and just started(twice) to get a rattle from left bank on cold start up. Oil obviously not good and crusty flakes round filler neck(normal?) dislodged by funle probably. Local mek said to flush it, not keen from what i hear on here, but he also mentioned to flush with diesel!!! Due to its detergent qualitys. Just want to stop the rattle myself as oil changed 6 days ago now and rattle still there, maybe slightly better. Whats best thing? Cheers
Short oil changes are the answer.
Heres the issue.
The trouble with a flush is that yes, it will clean a load of the deposits off but its not un-common for these to then block the oil pickup pipe!
Oil is a good cleaner......so that is the approach I find best.
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thanks guys will do:y
Your not shocked by the diesel idea then. Not doing it on my car,what ever.
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Just as a matter of interest, where's the oil pickup pipe?
And if it were blocked, would it cause extra pressure in the oilways, and maybe force oil out through the camcover gaskets?
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I won't tell you what we did with a Rover 214 and a couple of gallons of diesel ::)
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Just as a matter of interest, where's the oil pickup pipe?
And if it were blocked, would it cause extra pressure in the oilways, and maybe force oil out through the camcover gaskets?
In the sump I presume. I would have thought it would lead to low oil pressure.
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Is it worth dropping the sump and checking the pickup tube?
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I think I would go for the regular oil changes for a bit and see if it improves.
Would 3.2's be of a generation where service was every 20k miles?
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thanks guys will do:y
Your not shocked by the diesel idea then. Not doing it on my car,what ever.
You sure he didn't suggest using an engine oil designed for diesel cars? These do have stronger detergent additives. A little diesel in the oil would probably act as a solvent, so the same as flushing really.
However, it all comes down the whether you shift the dirt all in one go, and potentially clog the pickup, or gradually over the course of a few oil changes.
Kevin
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even despite the high cost of a barrel of oil the price of engine oil still seems bargainous. i'd definitely go that route to clean the engine. Mine's had three changes in 12 months!.....and that's only about 5000 miles! (lots of short-journey mayo and an oil cooler change!)
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thanks guys will do:y
Your not shocked by the diesel idea then. Not doing it on my car,what ever.
You sure he didn't suggest using an engine oil designed for diesel cars? These do have stronger detergent additives. A little diesel in the oil would probably act as a solvent, so the same as flushing really.
However, it all comes down the whether you shift the dirt all in one go, and potentially clog the pickup, or gradually over the course of a few oil changes.
Kevin
Nope, he ment drop the oil, re fit sump bolt. Replace oil with "DIESEL" to the top of dipstick and "RUN THE ENGINE" on tick over only for 30 mins!!! He talked about proper flush treatment, but said in extreme cases use diesel. "Use what" i said. It has highest level of detergent in it, was the thinking behind it. Maybe as a last resort, that or scrap it, but i not doing it. Oh No!
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thanks guys will do:y
Your not shocked by the diesel idea then. Not doing it on my car,what ever.
You sure he didn't suggest using an engine oil designed for diesel cars? These do have stronger detergent additives. A little diesel in the oil would probably act as a solvent, so the same as flushing really.
However, it all comes down the whether you shift the dirt all in one go, and potentially clog the pickup, or gradually over the course of a few oil changes.
Kevin
Nope, he ment drop the oil, re fit sump bolt. Replace oil with "DIESEL" to the top of dipstick and "RUN THE ENGINE" on tick over only for 30 mins!!! He talked about proper flush treatment, but said in extreme cases use diesel. "Use what" i said. It has highest level of detergent in it, was the thinking behind it. Maybe as a last resort, that or scrap it, but i not doing it. Oh No!
Yes high levels of detergent and low levels of lubrication properties.......what an idiot.....note, never buy a car off him!
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Nope, he ment drop the oil, re fit sump bolt. Replace oil with "DIESEL" to the top of dipstick and "RUN THE ENGINE" on tick over only for 30 mins!!! He talked about proper flush treatment, but said in extreme cases use diesel. "Use what" i said. It has highest level of detergent in it, was the thinking behind it. Maybe as a last resort, that or scrap it, but i not doing it. Oh No!
Umm. :o No, thanks. That's about as good as running it with no oil.
Stick to a few regular oil changes. :y
Kevin
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even despite the high cost of a barrel of oil the price of engine oil still seems bargainous. i'd definitely go that route to clean the engine. Mine's had three changes in 12 months!.....and that's only about 5000 miles! (lots of short-journey mayo and an oil cooler change!)
Now you said that bet it goes up in price pretty soon LOL !
I still have a 5Ltr of CastrolGTX oil in garage never did change my 2.0CD over to semi synth price on it £7.99 LOL so one more oil change of std oil then will go the Synth route ! :y
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Funny enough that is what you will pay per can for semisynth on the TC deal..
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I won't tell you what we did with a Rover 214 and a couple of gallons of diesel ::)
No go on tell us. did it work? :o if you got nothing to loose on a £100 piece of snot thats 7 litres of diesel short of the scrap heap and rattles like a bucket of spanners, why not, if it gets your valves working,IF? Deisel better lube than marmite perhaps?
NO good in 4k worth of v6 saloon obviously!he was not sujesting that in my case to be fair. What was story with the rover? Tell us tell us.
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I still have a 5Ltr of CastrolGTX oil in garage never did change my 2.0CD over to semi synth price on it £7.99 LOL so one more oil change of std oil then will go the Synth route ! :y
I spotted a 5 litre (metal) can of Duckhams "Q" 20w50 in dad's garage which was inherited when my great uncle passed away leaving his workshop to be cleared (found an entire Austin 7 under the junk!). He has been given strict instructions not to put it in his lawn mower let alone a modern car!
I notice they sell this stuff as a "classic" oil now, for 18 quid a can! :o
Kevin
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Go with the oil changes, I do mine on my 3.0l which has done around 120k every 4k.... never get any mayo or crud.... :y
[size=18]AND[/size] ALWAYS A FILTER CHANGE TOO !
DC
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I won't tell you what we did with a Rover 214 and a couple of gallons of diesel ::)
No go on tell us. did it work? :o if you got nothing to loose on a £100 piece of snot thats 7 litres of diesel short of the scrap heap and rattles like a bucket of spanners, why not, if it gets your valves working,IF? Deisel better lube than marmite perhaps?
NO good in 4k worth of v6 saloon obviously!he was not sujesting that in my case to be fair. What was story with the rover? Tell us tell us.
Bump ::)
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I won't tell you what we did with a Rover 214 and a couple of gallons of diesel ::)
No go on tell us. did it work? :o if you got nothing to loose on a £100 piece of snot thats 7 litres of diesel short of the scrap heap and rattles like a bucket of spanners, why not, if it gets your valves working,IF? Deisel better lube than marmite perhaps?
NO good in 4k worth of v6 saloon obviously!he was not sujesting that in my case to be fair. What was story with the rover? Tell us tell us.
Bump ::)
Must make the inevitable head gasket change less messy if you've internally degreased the engine first. ;D
Kevin
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I notice they sell this stuff as a "classic" oil now, for 18 quid a can! :o
Kevin
Does it congeal when it gets old?
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I notice they sell this stuff as a "classic" oil now, for 18 quid a can! :o
Kevin
Does it congeal when it gets old?
It's just a very, very low tech oil from before the days when engines were even remotely demanding of their oil. Put it in a modern engine and it'll turn to sludge.
Kevin