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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: feeutfo on 01 September 2008, 14:32:11
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having read not to turn on the the ignition with the dash out... Yep, thats exactly what i did. Changed all 4, key was in ignition after releasing the stearing lock so i could take the top cover off the stearing column. I thought ill just check they work! Click, Aaaah. Course they dont bloody work its not plugged in to the socket at the back, you DIKC HEAD. Now the Cid does not work. May not have plugged it in correctly. Possible the plug came out as the small clasp is broken. But i dont think so. No dash light errors. Oh and the cc only blows cold on lo. But that 'may' be unrelated. Do i need tech 2 to post this out now. Cheers
Ps.
Definately a Tw@!
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CID will be plugs, unless you've killed the backlight.
Climate unrelated, unless you have disturbed a sensor somewhere.
You will need tech2 to clear out a host of fault codes:
Engine: EML failed
SRS/Airbag: Telltale failed
Immboliser: EML failed
ABS: ABS and TC telltales failed (these sometimes don't come up)
Radio: Display not connected
Display: Radio Not Connected, Fuel gauge not connected.
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cheers j. Ill have another look tonight. I dont suppose anybody could find the part number for the clip/clasp that holds the small plug in on the CID. Parts man at slough says you can only buy it with the whole wiring loom. Its all the system gives them. Cheers.
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cheers j. Ill have another look tonight. I dont suppose anybody could find the part number for the clip/clasp that holds the small plug in on the CID. Parts man at slough says you can only buy it with the whole wiring loom. Its all the system gives them. Cheers.
Correct!
You can make one from an old CDC2 cable though......
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cheers j. Ill have another look tonight. I dont suppose anybody could find the part number for the clip/clasp that holds the small plug in on the CID. Parts man at slough says you can only buy it with the whole wiring loom. Its all the system gives them. Cheers.
He is right.
A small bit of folded paper wedged down one side of connector is normally enough ;)
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Oh, and it will only affect Map display, everything else is fed via large connector
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Oh, and it will only affect Map display, everything else is fed via large connector
O oh. Sounds like back light then. Cant believe i managed to leave both plugs out? But then i managed to turn the ignition on so i suppose anything is possible. Thanks guys, will have a look later and see what else i managed to opps up. Cheers.
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Hmm... Just been out to the car in the work car park, (late shift) and had a play, only thing workin on the Head unit is the radio, which was on at the time, and to volume. All i can do is turn it on and off, the radio comes on, and adjust the volume. Thats it. Nothing on the CID, no other functions work. The lights come on the steering wheel controles, and the radio itself. All other life is gone. Have not checked the fuses, its to Dark out there, will have to check the CID plugs in the a.m.
By the way. The stearing wheel button lights stay on when the radio is off. Contrary to what i said to Tbs post in ice about that subject.
In having a bad day. Work not going well either. :'(
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Hmm... Just been out to the car in the work car park, (late shift) and had a play, only thing workin on the Head unit is the radio, which was on at the time, and to volume. All i can do is turn it on and off, the radio comes on, and adjust the volume. Thats it. Nothing on the CID, no other functions work. The lights come on the steering wheel controles, and the radio itself. All other life is gone. Have not checked the fuses, its to Dark out there, will have to check the CID plugs in the a.m.
By the way. The stearing wheel button lights stay on when the radio is off. Contrary to what i said to Tbs post in ice about that subject.
In having a bad day. Work not going well either. :'(
Limited access is a sign it cannot talk to display via CAN (which is on the grey big plug)
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Hmm... Just been out to the car in the work car park, (late shift) and had a play, only thing workin on the Head unit is the radio, which was on at the time, and to volume. All i can do is turn it on and off, the radio comes on, and adjust the volume. Thats it. Nothing on the CID, no other functions work. The lights come on the steering wheel controles, and the radio itself. All other life is gone. Have not checked the fuses, its to Dark out there, will have to check the CID plugs in the a.m.
By the way. The stearing wheel button lights stay on when the radio is off. Contrary to what i said to Tbs post in ice about that subject.
In having a bad day. Work not going well either. :'(
Limited access is a sign it cannot talk to display via CAN (which is on the grey big plug)
Both plugs are in and well secured. The broken clasp on the small plug is in 2 halfs but both halfs are holding the plug very well, so it aint that. Could i have pulled the plugs out from the back of the head unit ? I presume the 4 allen keys are all i need to undo?
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Hmm... Just been out to the car in the work car park, (late shift) and had a play, only thing workin on the Head unit is the radio, which was on at the time, and to volume. All i can do is turn it on and off, the radio comes on, and adjust the volume. Thats it. Nothing on the CID, no other functions work. The lights come on the steering wheel controles, and the radio itself. All other life is gone. Have not checked the fuses, its to Dark out there, will have to check the CID plugs in the a.m.
By the way. The stearing wheel button lights stay on when the radio is off. Contrary to what i said to Tbs post in ice about that subject.
In having a bad day. Work not going well either. :'(
Limited access is a sign it cannot talk to display via CAN (which is on the grey big plug)
Both plugs are in and well secured. The broken clasp on the small plug is in 2 halfs but both halfs are holding the plug very well, so it aint that. Could i have pulled the plugs out from the back of the head unit ? I presume the 4 allen keys are all i need to undo?
Obviously more to it than the 4 allen keys. I have tried the old U shaped security key ,cut in half for the longer reach between the holes, from my old radio, they dont work either. Arse. How do you get the head unit out? Its a 2015. Ta.
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Hmm... Just been out to the car in the work car park, (late shift) and had a play, only thing workin on the Head unit is the radio, which was on at the time, and to volume. All i can do is turn it on and off, the radio comes on, and adjust the volume. Thats it. Nothing on the CID, no other functions work. The lights come on the steering wheel controles, and the radio itself. All other life is gone. Have not checked the fuses, its to Dark out there, will have to check the CID plugs in the a.m.
By the way. The stearing wheel button lights stay on when the radio is off. Contrary to what i said to Tbs post in ice about that subject.
In having a bad day. Work not going well either. :'(
Limited access is a sign it cannot talk to display via CAN (which is on the grey big plug)
Both plugs are in and well secured. The broken clasp on the small plug is in 2 halfs but both halfs are holding the plug very well, so it aint that. Could i have pulled the plugs out from the back of the head unit ? I presume the 4 allen keys are all i need to undo?
Obviously more to it than the 4 allen keys. I have tried the old U shaped security key ,cut in half for the longer reach between the holes, from my old radio, they dont work either. Arse. How do you get the head unit out? Its a 2015. Ta.
Nope, its ok i got it out, wasnt being firm enough. Cant see much wrong tho.
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Don't know whether this helps, but I've just done my 2.6l dash bulbs an hour ago. The MID plug speaks for itself as you can see it to
re-connect but the centre plug, which engages when you push the panel fully home, can't be seen as you reinstall. Make sure you've pushed the panel fully home. I hadn't initially, but was able to confirm that it was fully home by ensuring that the screw holding brackets were right up to the holes.
Make sure the bottom centre screw bracket isn't fouling the plastic cover under the top steering wheel cover, preventing the panel from going right back. HTH.
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Don't know whether this helps, but I've just done my 2.6l dash bulbs an hour ago. The MID plug speaks for itself as you can see it to
re-connect but the centre plug, which engages when you push the panel fully home, can't be seen as you reinstall. Make sure you've pushed the panel fully home. I hadn't initially, but was able to confirm that it was fully home by ensuring that the screw holding brackets were right up to the holes.
Make sure the bottom centre screw bracket isn't fouling the plastic cover under the top steering wheel cover, preventing the panel from going right back. HTH.
Thanks shyboy, no problem with the dash, that all works fine, but i know what you mean. Its the colour info display(cid) thats not working. The 2 cables to it are quite short so i had trouble getting them out, esp as i have not done it before, i did not know how the clasp on the back of each plug works. Worked it out in the end. Sounds differant to yours. I have confirmed the plugs are fully home to cid with the clasps/clips fully down, i checked again this am. Didnt have time to pull the cage out to check the other end of the cable to head unit but i cant see any problems in there, the blue plugs in the cage seem to line up. I guess the only thing i can check now is that i have not bent a pin over in the cid screen socket, when i put the plug back in.
Maybe the trouble was,with not enough slack in the cable, i could not see the sockets and have my hand in there at the same time. Plus being thick, and turning on the ignition with the clocks out(but the cid cables still connected, i think) somewhere along the line the cid(colour version of your mid) has packed up. I cant see where the problem is.
I have had issues with pops and squeaks from the system in the past as my post in ice. Dave at DND said is sounds like a bad earth. Maybe that bad earth
packed up altogether with me pulling stuff about in there? Maybe? But it was only an audio glitch, no flicker from the screen.
Just one more thing, i found a metal clip sitting under the screen behind the dash. No idea where it goes.
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cheers j. Ill have another look tonight. I dont suppose anybody could find the part number for the clip/clasp that holds the small plug in on the CID. Parts man at slough says you can only buy it with the whole wiring loom. Its all the system gives them. Cheers.
He is right.
A small bit of folded paper wedged down one side of connector is normally enough ;)
Bit high tech that Jaime :-?
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IIRc Danny had a radio problem which prevented him doing anything but playing the current radio channel and remedied it by disconnecting the battery cable letting it sit for a while and reconnecting.
As though the unit had got confused and needed to reboot sort of thing.
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IIRc Danny had a radio problem which prevented him doing anything but playing the current radio channel and remedied it by disconnecting the battery cable letting it sit for a while and reconnecting.
As though the unit had got confused and needed to reboot sort of thing.
I did wonder about that. Better dig out my car pass and allow 3 hours to re prog. everything. Cheers Captain.
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Tryed the battery thing. No change. So took the plugs to cid out again. No bent pins. Nothing wrong that i could see. Put in back together. Igniton on BINGO! All working fine. As is the climate controle. Wtf? Dont get of wrong i am delighted. But why did it play up?
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Omega's have a wicked sense of humour... Imagine what the ECU was thinking, "look at that fella scratching his head haha, better power lights now"
;D
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Omega's have a wicked sense of humour... Imagine what the ECU was thinking, "look at that fella scratching his head haha, better power lights now"
;D
He he, yeah.
I bet its a female ecu. They are aloud to change their mind, they tell me. ;D
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page 1 of haynes iirc. And as my mate just told me, disconnect the battery. Might have been a good idea?
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Tryed the battery thing. No change. So took the plugs to cid out again. No bent pins. Nothing wrong that i could see. Put in back together. Igniton on BINGO! All working fine. As is the climate controle. Wtf? Dont get of wrong i am delighted. But why did it play up?
Simply a bad connection :-/ :-/ :-/