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Title: Probably doesn't qualify for help, well maybe!
Post by: theolodian on 19 September 2006, 10:13:57
I see lots of diesels, and a surprisng number of LPG conversions on this forum.  Has anyone been tempted to misappropiate an LPG conversion kt and use it for propane injection on a diesel?  It's nitrous for diesels.  I don't have a diesel, I'm just looking to see if there are other crazies out there like me!
Title: Re: Probably doesn't qualify for help, well maybe!
Post by: Admin on 19 September 2006, 10:46:16
Propane injection on a diesel??  :o

Would be fun... briefly!

I don't think the engine would like the detonation of propane in the cylinders for very long. Diesels have very high compression to improve the detonation of diesel.
Stick propane (which combusts rather more easily and impressively) in those conditions and you have stresses placed on the engine it was not designed to withstand...
Title: Re: Probably doesn't qualify for help, well maybe!
Post by: STMO123 on 19 September 2006, 11:02:01
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Propane injection on a diesel??  :o

Would be fun... briefly!

I don't think the engine would like the detonation of propane in the cylinders for very long. Diesels have very high compression to improve the detonation of diesel.
Stick propane (which combusts rather more easily and impressively) in those conditions and you have stresses placed on the engine it was not designed to withstand...

But as you say Dave.....big fun for a while ;D
Title: Re: Probably doesn't qualify for help, well maybe!
Post by: theolodian on 19 September 2006, 11:03:25
Correctly added to diesel like nitrous on a petrol it gives a massive boost.  You can add nitrous as well, but the imporvement isn't as dramatic and not worth the effort IMO.  
Title: Re: Probably doesn't qualify for help, well maybe!
Post by: Martin_1962 on 19 September 2006, 12:47:22
SGI no use.

Tank usefull, evaporator maybe.

Need a specialist kit.
Title: Re: Probably doesn't qualify for help, well maybe!
Post by: theolodian on 19 September 2006, 13:24:07
Yeah, you couldn't use the whole kit.  I guess people here aren't twisted like that though  ;)  I know that others have done it, but haven't seen it in person yet.
Title: Re: Probably doesn't qualify for help, well maybe!
Post by: Elite Pete on 19 September 2006, 15:59:17
I have read about a diesel Freelander which is being used to rally. This had LPG fitted to boost the BHP
Title: Re: Probably doesn't qualify for help, well maybe!
Post by: RonaldMcBurger on 19 September 2006, 17:05:41
If you really want a massive boost on a diesel Omega, there is a simple and very effective way of doing this using some simple DIY stuff.

Firstly, ensure that the oil has been changed and that the level is set correctly. Then using your grapple hook and about 50ft of strong nylon rope ( about 1" diameter should do) tie the loose end to your front tow hook, and carefully coil up the rest complete with grapple hook and place through sunroof next to you on the seat.

Drive to suitable test location - the downwind end of any RAF base runway should do. Now sit facing the runway, but trying to blend in, but have your 'I am cool' sunglasses on the passenger seat ready. Then, when any old Tornado Aircraft taxis onto the end of the runway, discretely throw the grapple hook with attached rope over the tail, fasten your seat belt, rev your engine aimlessly in neutral and NOW put on the sunglasses. Count to 5 and enjoy the sensation of monster acceleration.

Now, a few small notes. Don't forget the axe to cut the rope just before Biggles takes off. Also, make sure you are wearing kevlar as the heat from twin RB199 Rolls Royce turbofans on afterburn can get a tadd warm.  On the downside, this sometimes could go wrong. You may find your engine and front end being catapolted over to the otherside of RAF Cranwell, or you may alternatively find yourself wishing you had remembered the axe at 12,000 ft.

But heck, beats any turbo.

Hope this helps.


Nurse.....Nurse....... its happening again.....
Title: Re: Probably doesn't qualify for help, well maybe!
Post by: CaptainZok on 19 September 2006, 17:12:59
 ;D ;D ;D ;D Another classic.
Title: Re: Probably doesn't qualify for help, well maybe!
Post by: bob.dent on 19 September 2006, 17:24:56
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If you really want a massive boost on a diesel Omega, there is a simple and very effective way of doing this using some simple DIY stuff.

Firstly, ensure that the oil has been changed and that the level is set correctly. Then using your grapple hook and about 50ft of strong nylon rope ( about 1" diameter should do) tie the loose end to your front tow hook, and carefully coil up the rest complete with grapple hook and place through sunroof next to you on the seat.

Drive to suitable test location - the downwind end of any RAF base runway should do. Now sit facing the runway, but trying to blend in, but have your 'I am cool' sunglasses on the passenger seat ready. Then, when any old Tornado Aircraft taxis onto the end of the runway, discretely throw the grapple hook with attached rope over the tail, fasten your seat belt, rev your engine aimlessly in neutral and NOW put on the sunglasses. Count to 5 and enjoy the sensation of monster acceleration.

Now, a few small notes. Don't forget the axe to cut the rope just before Biggles takes off. Also, make sure you are wearing kevlar as the heat from twin RB199 Rolls Royce turbofans on afterburn can get a tadd warm.  On the downside, this sometimes could go wrong. You may find your engine and front end being catapolted over to the otherside of RAF Cranwell, or you may alternatively find yourself wishing you had remembered the axe at 12,000 ft.

But heck, beats any turbo.

Hope this helps.


Nurse.....Nurse....... its happening again.....

Really R McB....how preposterous!! You should know that the grapple hook will snag the Tornado's airlerons and hinder a perfect take-off ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Probably doesn't qualify for help, well maybe!
Post by: theolodian on 19 September 2006, 17:32:25
Now we're getting somewhere!  I knew you guys had it in you.

Still can't believe I got no response to the membership initiation in my newbie post  :'(
Title: Re: Probably doesn't qualify for help, well maybe!
Post by: bob.dent on 19 September 2006, 17:35:42
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Now we're getting somewhere!  I knew you guys had it in you.

Still can't believe I got no response to the membership initiation in my newbie post  :'(

Huh....did I miss something then? :-?
Title: Re: Probably doesn't qualify for help, well maybe!
Post by: theolodian on 19 September 2006, 17:52:05
Well, apparently I'm in a minority of one, but I thought it was priceless.  Look almost halfway down, posted 13:47

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1158615253/15#15
Title: Re: Probably doesn't qualify for help, well maybe!
Post by: TheBoy on 19 September 2006, 19:07:09
You know us English - we're "just too damn straight" (with an american accent) ;)

Seriously, it made me chuckle, but couldn't think of any funny comment to reply with....
Title: Re: Probably doesn't qualify for help, well maybe!
Post by: bob.dent on 19 September 2006, 19:16:42
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Well, apparently I'm in a minority of one, but I thought it was priceless.  Look almost halfway down, posted 13:47

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1158615253/15#15

Ahh....now I know where you're at - didn't see it previously - DOH! :-[

Very classy piece of literature ;D
Title: Re: Probably doesn't qualify for help, well maybe!
Post by: Tony H on 20 September 2006, 19:30:54
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If you really want a massive boost on a diesel Omega, there is a simple and very effective way of doing this using some simple DIY stuff.

Firstly, ensure that the oil has been changed and that the level is set correctly. Then using your grapple hook and about 50ft of strong nylon rope ( about 1" diameter should do) tie the loose end to your front tow hook, and carefully coil up the rest complete with grapple hook and place through sunroof next to you on the seat.

Drive to suitable test location - the downwind end of any RAF base runway should do. Now sit facing the runway, but trying to blend in, but have your 'I am cool' sunglasses on the passenger seat ready. Then, when any old Tornado Aircraft taxis onto the end of the runway, discretely throw the grapple hook with attached rope over the tail, fasten your seat belt, rev your engine aimlessly in neutral and NOW put on the sunglasses. Count to 5 and enjoy the sensation of monster acceleration.

Now, a few small notes. Don't forget the axe to cut the rope just before Biggles takes off. Also, make sure you are wearing kevlar as the heat from twin RB199 Rolls Royce turbofans on afterburn can get a tadd warm.  On the downside, this sometimes could go wrong. You may find your engine and front end being catapolted over to the otherside of RAF Cranwell, or you may alternatively find yourself wishing you had remembered the axe at 12,000 ft.

But heck, beats any turbo.

Hope this helps.


Nurse.....Nurse....... its happening again.....
I forsee a potential problem, the possibility of the jet exaust actually melting the nylon rope ( good one mr McB funny as fook ;D )