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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: sev on 06 November 2008, 18:43:08

Title: Tappety Tapping...!
Post by: sev on 06 November 2008, 18:43:08
Hi to all, well, I got the shocks and springs done, and now all I have to do is the rear brakes once I drill and easyout the mashed brake retaining bolts that some muppet gorillad on.

However, I digress...

When I did my cambelt, due to it causing me a bit of a kerfufle, I've since had a tapping noise which originally was quite loud.

I'm sure it's coming from the back side of the engine, and I'm pretty damn certain that it's LHS cylinder 3.

Now the noise didn't go away, but two weeks ago I changed the oil again this time using GM and it did quieten down.

With the weather getting colder, the noise is very pronounced on cold starts but does subside when the engine is warmed through - however, I still know it's there as my ears are just tuned to it now!

The reason I've put the question to the board, is this:

I'm pretty damn certain it's the hydraulic lifter, and until the weather warms up I intend to do cock all about it as I've got plans for some 3.0L cams to go in when I get my paws on some - and then I can hit it all in one go.

But, could it be anything else?

I can't imagine an echo effect 'throwing' the sound from another part of the engine.

Any suggestions, or is my diagnosis pretty much there?
Title: Re: Tappety Tapping...!
Post by: mike213735 on 06 November 2008, 18:55:04
I have a 1998 2.5 too mate and I have the same.

We (the Reading Meet Usual Suspects) have diagnosed mine as a lazy hydraulic lifter. If I keep the car, I am going to get myself some of those 3 litre cam things and will change the lifters at the same time.

Sorry no help, if only to let you know, you are not alone.

All the best with the cam "upgrade" mate.

Mike
Title: Re: Tappety Tapping...!
Post by: sev on 06 November 2008, 19:02:39
that's comforting to know - perhaps we could have a cam-a-thon!
Title: Re: Tappety Tapping...!
Post by: dbug on 06 November 2008, 19:12:36
Had same on my saloon - couple of oil/filter changes cured.  Used GM semi synth 10-40
Title: Re: Tappety Tapping...!
Post by: mike213735 on 06 November 2008, 20:31:37
Is it worth getting some of that cleaning stuff that you ADD to the oil and run for 15mins at 1500rpm before draining the oil and changing the filter?

Use it on my Vectra once and the engine did LOOK clean inside.

Mike
Title: Re: Tappety Tapping...!
Post by: VX1 on 06 November 2008, 20:42:13
Mike it wont harm the engine but bear in mind if it hasn't been done before then just a few regular oil changes should do the trick. Also you must be on about the upgrade to the 3.0ltr cams in you 2.5ltr engine.

Paul  :y
Title: Re: Tappety Tapping...!
Post by: VX1 on 06 November 2008, 20:44:43
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Hi to all, well, I got the shocks and springs done, and now all I have to do is the rear brakes once I drill and easyout the mashed brake retaining bolts that some muppet gorillad on.

However, I digress...

When I did my cambelt, due to it causing me a bit of a kerfufle, I've since had a tapping noise which originally was quite loud.

I'm sure it's coming from the back side of the engine, and I'm pretty darn certain that it's LHS cylinder 3.

Now the noise didn't go away, but two weeks ago I changed the oil again this time using GM and it did quieten down.
With the weather getting colder, the noise is very pronounced on cold starts but does subside when the engine is warmed through - however, I still know it's there as my ears are just tuned to it now!

The reason I've put the question to the board, is this:

I'm pretty darn certain it's the hydraulic lifter, and until the weather warms up I intend to do cock all about it as I've got plans for some 3.0L cams to go in when I get my paws on some - and then I can hit it all in one go.

But, could it be anything else?

I can't imagine an echo effect 'throwing' the sound from another part of the engine.

Any suggestions, or is my diagnosis pretty much there?

If you do an oil change again you could try the castrol magnatec is does do what it say's on the bottle. I have tried this before in an omega and it did quieten down the noise and then dissapeared.HTH

Paul  :y
Title: Re: Tappety Tapping...!
Post by: Kevin Wood on 06 November 2008, 20:54:21
Worth bearing this in mind if the cams are coming out anyway:

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1163080380

Kevin
Title: Re: Tappety Tapping...!
Post by: VX1 on 06 November 2008, 21:00:14
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Worth bearing this in mind if the cams are coming out anyway:

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1163080380

Kevin

Well worth doing that kevin, didnt think it was possible.
You learn something new everyday.

P.s Kevin have you seen the post I put in the gallery?  Could you let me know if I am right or wrong? Pm me.

Paul  :y
Title: Re: Tappety Tapping...!
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 06 November 2008, 21:16:28
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Mike it wont harm the engine but bear in mind if it hasn't been done before then just a few regular oil changes should do the trick. Also you must be on about the upgrade to the 3.0ltr cams in you 2.5ltr engine.

Paul  :y


It might actualy do some harm!

All to often it dislodges gunk that then collects in the sump and blocks the oil pickup strainer....
Title: Re: Tappety Tapping...!
Post by: Ian_D on 07 November 2008, 23:51:22
Mines a bit tappy every now and then... Started at the York meet when we replaced the cambelt!   :-/

Theres a few strange rattles and squeeks that appears to be getting worse first thing in the morning and it runs on 3 cylinders for a second or two if its damp and cold now! (Sounds like death warmed up basicly!! )

However, it still pulls like a train! (Even when shes going sideways!  ;D ;D ;D - but I would never do that  ::))
Title: Re: Tappety Tapping...!
Post by: Albatross on 08 November 2008, 11:53:52
Tappy noise is common on start up; sticky lifter; I had the same. 2 oil changes in quick (250 mile) succession has cured it for good.