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Title: Help please
Post by: bighed on 10 November 2008, 16:06:13
Hi guys, I have Just got into my mig after about half an hour of being away from it and its now shaking heavily on tickover and sounds like its misfiring under revs. Any ideas? Sparkplugs have not long been done. Could it be a faulty lead?


Just noticed my avatar has gone funny.. Was ok yesterday. (normal size) Any ideas :-[ :-?
Title: Re: Help please
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 10 November 2008, 16:10:14
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Hi guys, I have Just got into my mig after about half an hour of being away from it and its now shaking heavily on tickover and sounds like its misfiring under revs. Any ideas? Sparkplugs have not long been done. Could it be a faulty lead?

I personally would check the leads for soundness (has it been in heavy rain today?), but many on here will say straight away "crank sensor" which when it suddenly goes causes the symptons you describe. :y

Have you done a paperclip test? I ask that not knowing the model you have which may rule that out in that manner.  Please place your vehicle details into the profile:)
Title: Re: Help please
Post by: bighed on 10 November 2008, 16:13:48
My apologies. Its a 99 2.5 V6 CDX. Not done paperclip test as no eml light has come on. Will go do it now.
Title: Re: Help please
Post by: bighed on 10 November 2008, 16:40:43
AA man has just been and says try some new ignition leads, but could be coil pack. Anyway of testing this as new leads from vaux aint cheap

Also will there be a fault code if no eml light has come on?
 :-/
Title: Re: Help please
Post by: feeutfo on 10 November 2008, 16:51:49
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AA man has just been and says try some new ignition leads, but could be coil pack. Anyway of testing this as new leads from vaux aint cheap

Also will there be a fault code if no eml light has come on?
 :-/

Not every code causes the light to come on.
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1189022687
Title: Re: Help please
Post by: bighed on 10 November 2008, 17:06:39
Just tested and its given me code 73. Mass air flow sensor voltage low????  :-/
Title: Re: Help please
Post by: bighed on 10 November 2008, 17:55:19
Will it still be ok to drive on short trips as got to take mrs n little un to see midwife tomorrow afternoon.
Hospital is about 3 miles away

Title: Re: Help please
Post by: TheBoy on 10 November 2008, 18:19:44
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Just tested and its given me code 73. Mass air flow sensor voltage low????  :-/
Most likely an air leak then.
Title: Re: Help please
Post by: TheBoy on 10 November 2008, 18:20:09
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Will it still be ok to drive on short trips as got to take mrs n little un to see midwife tomorrow afternoon.
Hospital is about 3 miles away

Wouldn't keep using it for too long without resolving it
Title: Re: Help please
Post by: bighed on 10 November 2008, 18:40:15
Unplugged mass air (if it was the right one I unplugged) and the engine almost died then picked up but revs sounded lower. Air leak?? would a blow in the exhaust do this? Just pulled a sparkplug out and it runs exactly the same??  :-/
Title: Re: Help please
Post by: bighed on 10 November 2008, 19:10:49
As above, exhaust blows (sounds tappy on start up) would this effect it in any way?  :-/
Title: Re: Help please
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 10 November 2008, 19:37:56
Wouldn't have thought a blowing exhaust would have caused your problem.
Check for air leaks like already suggested :y
Title: Re: Help please
Post by: TheBoy on 10 November 2008, 19:58:18
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Wouldn't have thought a blowing exhaust would have caused your problem.
Check for air leaks like already suggested :y
Could do, depending on how bad, and where.
Title: Re: Help please
Post by: bighed on 10 November 2008, 20:14:48
It sounds like just behind and down from top plenum area. Would that be manifold? Bet thats a right pain in backside to change??
Title: Re: Help please
Post by: bighed on 10 November 2008, 20:35:13
Would exhaust blowing bring up code 73???
Title: Re: Help please
Post by: bighed on 10 November 2008, 22:03:35
Really need help on this as somehow got to get to the hospital tomorrow  :-[ :-/
Title: Re: Help please
Post by: tmx on 10 November 2008, 22:07:53
hmmm just drove my mv6 round for 3 days with a bust MAF didnt use it much but when i did it cut out alot when you pulled upto juctions and the Overrun was on.
it also idled all over the show but the engine werent shaking!

could it be a Dead DIS Pack?

Where abouts in Shrops are you? if its near Ludlow/Clee Hill i maybe able to take a look for you if you want
Title: Re: Help please
Post by: bighed on 10 November 2008, 23:02:09
tmx u have pm  :y :y :y
Title: Re: Help please
Post by: bighed on 11 November 2008, 10:21:05
Would a leaking exhaust manifold cause a code 73?? :-/
Title: Re: Help please
Post by: bighed on 11 November 2008, 11:58:24
How would I check if leads are all ok? Would a continuality check with a multimeter do the trick?
Title: Re: Help please
Post by: bighed on 11 November 2008, 22:44:14
My mates V6 Vectra Gsi did this not lond after he bought it. He replaced egr valve, air flow meter, coil pack, spark plugs, crank sesnor and leads. Any way of testing these to eliminate them out of the problem?
 :-/
Title: Re: Help please
Post by: Lazydocker on 11 November 2008, 23:33:46
I'd start by searching for an air leak on the inlet side of the engine, including the vacuum pipes. Any leak here will throw up all sorts of strange codes and give the same symptoms! I had the same problem after I'd had the plenum off... Turned out i'd caught a sealing ring and had a leak under the plenum :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Help please
Post by: bighed on 11 November 2008, 23:46:39
It made your car misfire? Would a leak in the exhaust on the top exhaust manifold make it misfire? Cos thet would make engine loose pressure wouldnt it? Thanks for help. Will go searching tomorrow morning  :y
Title: Re: Help please
Post by: Lazydocker on 12 November 2008, 02:28:35
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It made your car misfire? Would a leak in the exhaust on the top exhaust manifold make it misfire? Cos thet would make engine loose pressure wouldnt it? Thanks for help. Will go searching tomorrow morning  :y

On the odd occasion it would idle it seemed to have a miss... Still think it's sucking in unmetered air! Check the o rings under the plenum if it was removed to do the other jobs :y :y
Title: Re: Help please
Post by: bighed on 12 November 2008, 13:15:27
Bit of an update. Just pulled the bottom sparkplug off on bottom drivers side and no change in engine revs and no sparking noise.
Pulled top one off and engine revs dropped, misfired worse and could hear lead sparking. Faulty lead, plug ou coil pack? :-/
Title: Re: Help please
Post by: bighed on 12 November 2008, 13:50:24
Just tried different lead and still no spark? Coil pack maybe?
Title: Re: Help please
Post by: bighed on 12 November 2008, 15:29:23
Coil pack now off n found this. It goes from one side right over to the other  :o
What could of caused this??
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r116/bighed123/Picture044.jpg)

(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r116/bighed123/Picture045.jpg)

Number 1 is right next to this and thats the one thats not firing.
Wonder why?  ;D ;D
Anyone for a bit of rust??  ::)
Title: Re: Help please
Post by: markey mark on 12 November 2008, 15:32:46
water ingress bud ! :( usally caused by faulty hbv  ::)
Title: Re: Help please
Post by: bighed on 12 November 2008, 15:38:06
really? Wheres that then??

Title: Re: Help please
Post by: markey mark on 12 November 2008, 15:39:11
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really? Wheres that then??

back of engine opposite side to coil pack  :y
Title: Re: Help please
Post by: Andy B on 12 November 2008, 15:39:51
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really? Wheres that then??

Behind the driver's side of the V ie next to where you've just removed the DIS!  ;)
Title: Re: Help please
Post by: bighed on 12 November 2008, 15:40:58
How would water get in cos its a sealed unit and points on coil pack are spotless??

 :-/
Title: Re: Help please
Post by: bighed on 12 November 2008, 15:41:45
whats h b v stand for too?? How much??
Title: Re: Help please
Post by: markey mark on 12 November 2008, 15:42:49
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How would water get in cos its a sealed unit and points on coil pack are spotless??

 :-/

dont know how it does but it does ! hbv heater bypass valve ! have you been losing any coolant ??
Title: Re: Help please
Post by: bighed on 12 November 2008, 15:47:20
now u mention it I think I have yes. How much and do u have one?
Have just put that on bits wanted post so ignore that.  :y
Title: Re: Help please
Post by: markey mark on 12 November 2008, 15:48:23
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now u mention it I think I have yes. How much and do u have one?
Have just put that on bits wanted post so ignore that.  :y

will chuck i know good one in box with coil pack for extra £5  :y
Title: Re: Help please
Post by: bighed on 12 November 2008, 15:51:38
that would be awesome mark. STAR!!!!
Is there a how to on hbv removal?
Will sort paypal out (or at least try!!) when I get back in.
Taking my newborn (well 5 days) for heel prick test thingy now  :'(
Title: Re: Help please
Post by: markey mark on 12 November 2008, 15:53:26
ok fella will get it out garage and in a box ! i have had three kids have that done when they do it makes you wana punch the nurse  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Help please
Post by: bighed on 12 November 2008, 18:41:04
Well all went well at midwives....  :y Think he cried more at being naked that the heel prick bless him  :'( :y
Title: Re: Help please
Post by: bighed on 15 November 2008, 11:58:21
well all parts have arrived to sort problem. Big thanks to markey mark for the quick service  :y