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Title: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 05 November 2007, 19:21:02
I have to catch a train at 5am, be in Croydon by 10am. Technical assessment for my potential new employer... hopefully after this session, I should have a definate on whether or not I get the job!..

I am being tested on MS exchange, Active Directory, Windows Server operating systems, networking, etc etc
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: Paulus on 05 November 2007, 19:21:34
Best of luck James...  :y
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: STMO123 on 05 November 2007, 19:22:35
Very best of luck James. :)
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: TheBoy on 05 November 2007, 19:23:24
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I have to catch a train at 5am, be in Croydon by 10am. Technical assessment for my potential new employer... hopefully after this session, I should have a definate on whether or not I get the job!..

I am being tested on MS exchange, Active Directory, Windows Server operating systems, networking, etc etc
Not for our lot is it - we're setting up a new DC in Croydon?
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 05 November 2007, 19:27:04
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I have to catch a train at 5am, be in Croydon by 10am. Technical assessment for my potential new employer... hopefully after this session, I should have a definate on whether or not I get the job!..

I am being tested on MS exchange, Active Directory, Windows Server operating systems, networking, etc etc

 :o :o phew..Too many deep subjects..They must give you really good salary..

Go sleep early..And good luck  :y
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 05 November 2007, 19:32:23
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I have to catch a train at 5am, be in Croydon by 10am. Technical assessment for my potential new employer... hopefully after this session, I should have a definate on whether or not I get the job!..

I am being tested on MS exchange, Active Directory, Windows Server operating systems, networking, etc etc

 :o :o phew..Too many deep subjects..They must give you really good salary..

Go sleep early..And good luck  :y

I must remain modest (Until I get the job ;D) - but the salary would be an enormous increase on my current one, I could do so much more!

I don't think it's for your lot, TB. This post is for a regional IT manager for wales/south west, for group of construction companies..



Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: STMO123 on 05 November 2007, 19:35:09
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I have to catch a train at 5am, be in Croydon by 10am. Technical assessment for my potential new employer... hopefully after this session, I should have a definate on whether or not I get the job!..

I am being tested on MS exchange, Active Directory, Windows Server operating systems, networking, etc etc

 :o :o phew..Too many deep subjects..They must give you really good salary..

Go sleep early..And good luck  :y

I must remain modest (Until I get the job ;D) - but the salary would be an enormous increase on my current one, I could do so much more!

I don't think it's for your lot, TB. This post is for a regional IT manager for wales/south west, for group of construction companies..




SSSHHHH......A certain lady may be viewing ;D
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: TheBoy on 05 November 2007, 19:35:47
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I have to catch a train at 5am, be in Croydon by 10am. Technical assessment for my potential new employer... hopefully after this session, I should have a definate on whether or not I get the job!..

I am being tested on MS exchange, Active Directory, Windows Server operating systems, networking, etc etc

 :o :o phew..Too many deep subjects..They must give you really good salary..

Go sleep early..And good luck  :y

I must remain modest (Until I get the job ;D) - but the salary would be an enormous increase on my current one, I could do so much more!

I don't think it's for your lot, TB. This post is for a regional IT manager for wales/south west, for group of construction companies..



Ah, no, probably not. Construction companies don't normally have Data Centres ;D


Good luck :y
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: VXL V6 on 05 November 2007, 19:37:24
Best of luck James.  :y
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 05 November 2007, 19:38:24
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Ah, no, probably not. Construction companies don't normally have Data Centres ;D


Don't be so sure!! But no, you're right, nothing on the scale of the DC's I'm used to working in, especially Redbus, which I work in reasonably regularly!

Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: TheBoy on 05 November 2007, 19:40:10
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Ah, no, probably not. Construction companies don't normally have Data Centres ;D


Don't be so sure!! But no, you're right, nothing on the scale of the DC's I'm used to working in, especially Redbus, which I work in reasonably regularly!

Telehouse (both of them!) is where all the big action is...
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 05 November 2007, 19:41:11
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Ah, no, probably not. Construction companies don't normally have Data Centres ;D


Don't be so sure!! But no, you're right, nothing on the scale of the DC's I'm used to working in, especially Redbus, which I work in reasonably regularly!

Telehouse (both of them!) is where all the big action is...

Soverign house/docklands? We have a hell of a lot of kit up there!
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: TheBoy on 05 November 2007, 19:43:55
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Ah, no, probably not. Construction companies don't normally have Data Centres ;D


Don't be so sure!! But no, you're right, nothing on the scale of the DC's I'm used to working in, especially Redbus, which I work in reasonably regularly!

Telehouse (both of them!) is where all the big action is...

Soverign house/docklands? We have a hell of a lot of kit up there!
Any real (non VISP) will have a fair amount of kit in there.  Centre of the UK Internet universe. Shame the power is so unreliable there ;D
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 05 November 2007, 19:45:33
As an experience changing jobs to a higher position is a matter of courage ..Which I dont have now..So do it..

When a person becomes older also becomes lazy too..Like me  ;D
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: Martin_1962 on 05 November 2007, 19:48:59
Good luck, I think I'll stick to programming, designing databases seems easy in comparison.

Any Glass companies out there hurry up our order books are taking off :y
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: TheBoy on 05 November 2007, 19:49:14
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As an experience changing jobs to a higher position is a matter of courage ..Which I dont have now..So do it..

When a person becomes older also becomes lazy too..Like me  ;D
You do get the 'comfy slippers' mentality.

Trouble is, been doing my current role for 7.5yrs and getting restless.  A few technology changes keeps you on your toes, but a certain staleness working on the same site for that length of time...
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: Martin_1962 on 05 November 2007, 19:52:15
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As an experience changing jobs to a higher position is a matter of courage ..Which I dont have now..So do it..

When a person becomes older also becomes lazy too..Like me  ;D
You do get the 'comfy slippers' mentality.

Trouble is, been doing my current role for 7.5yrs and getting restless.  A few technology changes keeps you on your toes, but a certain staleness working on the same site for that length of time...


Well I have been with the same company for 15 years, but I am needed if I left who would do my work?
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: MikeDundee on 05 November 2007, 19:52:29
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Good luck, I think I'll stick to programming, designing databases seems easy in comparison.

Any Glass companies out there hurry up our order books are taking off :y

Sierra by any chance?
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: TheBoy on 05 November 2007, 19:56:23
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As an experience changing jobs to a higher position is a matter of courage ..Which I dont have now..So do it..

When a person becomes older also becomes lazy too..Like me  ;D
You do get the 'comfy slippers' mentality.

Trouble is, been doing my current role for 7.5yrs and getting restless.  A few technology changes keeps you on your toes, but a certain staleness working on the same site for that length of time...


Well I have been with the same company for 15 years, but I am needed if I left who would do my work?
Apart from a paper exercise change of employer about 3 or 4 yrs ago, I've been with same company for 19yrs.

And there is always someone who can do your job. Probably do it better as well. Nobody is irreplacable, no matter how much we like to think we aren't.  It may take a replacement a week or 2 to get up to speed, but everybody can be replaced.

Hence, I would have no quilty feelings leaving my current role.
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: Golfbuddy on 05 November 2007, 20:04:01
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Good luck, I think I'll stick to programming, designing databases seems easy in comparison.

Any Glass companies out there hurry up our order books are taking off :y

Patience is a virtue Martin. Great things come to he that waits.  ;)
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 05 November 2007, 20:08:49
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Good luck, I think I'll stick to programming, designing databases seems easy in comparison.

Any Glass companies out there hurry up our order books are taking off :y

Yep...programming and database principles dont change day to day..(Even APIs tend to change  >:( but not frequently )

Once I take Active Directory course.. :-/  Whats that.. ?

The only trouble with that is after sometime you forgot too many thousands lines of code..But object and modular design diminishes that problem anyway

Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: TheBoy on 05 November 2007, 20:10:17
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Good luck, I think I'll stick to programming, designing databases seems easy in comparison.

Any Glass companies out there hurry up our order books are taking off :y

Yep...programming and database principles dont change day to day..(Even APIs tend to change  >:( but not frequently )

Once I take Active Directory course.. :-/  Whats that.. ?

The only trouble with that is after sometime you forgot too many thousands lines of code..But object and modular design diminishes that problem anyway

Strangely enough, I remember my last AD course.  It was an AD security design course. 11th Sep 2001.
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: Golfbuddy on 05 November 2007, 20:10:35
Enjoy the day James. Hope you're not too tired to excel.  :)
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 05 November 2007, 20:11:46
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As an experience changing jobs to a higher position is a matter of courage ..Which I dont have now..So do it..

When a person becomes older also becomes lazy too..Like me  ;D
You do get the 'comfy slippers' mentality.

Trouble is, been doing my current role for 7.5yrs and getting restless.  A few technology changes keeps you on your toes, but a certain staleness working on the same site for that length of time...


Well I have been with the same company for 15 years, but I am needed if I left who would do my work?
Apart from a paper exercise change of employer about 3 or 4 yrs ago, I've been with same company for 19yrs.

And there is always someone who can do your job. Probably do it better as well. Nobody is irreplacable, no matter how much we like to think we aren't.  It may take a replacement a week or 2 to get up to speed, but everybody can be replaced.

Hence, I would have no quilty feelings leaving my current role.

Thats true.. only replacing the programming projects and workers need a bit more  time compared to IT administration..

And if they had the last version of codes  ;)

Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: amigov6 on 05 November 2007, 20:27:28
 :)I honestly haven't a clue what any of you are on about but best of luck with your job application. Is a spread sheet what you throw over the top when you've changed the bedding?
      I'll get me coat & hop back in me truck, i know what to do with that!!!!!!! :-[
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: A380 Elite on 05 November 2007, 20:51:40
Good Luck for tomorrow.

Cup of tea if ya want one.
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 05 November 2007, 20:56:07
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Good luck, I think I'll stick to programming, designing databases seems easy in comparison.

Any Glass companies out there hurry up our order books are taking off :y

Yep...programming and database principles dont change day to day..(Even APIs tend to change  >:( but not frequently )

Once I take Active Directory course.. :-/  Whats that.. ?

The only trouble with that is after sometime you forgot too many thousands lines of code..But object and modular design diminishes that problem anyway

Strangely enough, I remember my last AD course. It was an AD security design course. 11th Sep 2001.

 :o  really bad day..  Too many suffered not only who died..

ps  : late answer sorry my president and US president were talking to media just at that moment
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: Kevin Wood on 05 November 2007, 20:59:04
Hope it goes well. :y

Kevin
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: Martin_1962 on 05 November 2007, 22:51:59
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Good luck, I think I'll stick to programming, designing databases seems easy in comparison.

Any Glass companies out there hurry up our order books are taking off :y

Sierra by any chance?


Nope - Golfbuddy has heard of us
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: Martin_1962 on 05 November 2007, 22:52:30
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Good luck, I think I'll stick to programming, designing databases seems easy in comparison.

Any Glass companies out there hurry up our order books are taking off :y

Patience is a virtue Martin. Great things come to he that waits.  ;)


 :y :y
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: Martin_1962 on 05 November 2007, 22:54:02
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As an experience changing jobs to a higher position is a matter of courage ..Which I dont have now..So do it..

When a person becomes older also becomes lazy too..Like me  ;D
You do get the 'comfy slippers' mentality.

Trouble is, been doing my current role for 7.5yrs and getting restless.  A few technology changes keeps you on your toes, but a certain staleness working on the same site for that length of time...


Well I have been with the same company for 15 years, but I am needed if I left who would do my work?
Apart from a paper exercise change of employer about 3 or 4 yrs ago, I've been with same company for 19yrs.

And there is always someone who can do your job. Probably do it better as well. Nobody is irreplacable, no matter how much we like to think we aren't.  It may take a replacement a week or 2 to get up to speed, but everybody can be replaced.

Hence, I would have no quilty feelings leaving my current role.

Thats true.. only replacing the programming projects and workers need a bit more  time compared to IT administration..

And if they had the last version of codes  ;)



Well I have written large chunks of the application. more of our DOS app than the Windows app, but it would take ages to understand the system to know where to do changes - eg new pricing systems ect
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: Golfbuddy on 05 November 2007, 23:13:13
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As an experience changing jobs to a higher position is a matter of courage ..Which I dont have now..So do it..

When a person becomes older also becomes lazy too..Like me  ;D
You do get the 'comfy slippers' mentality.

Trouble is, been doing my current role for 7.5yrs and getting restless.  A few technology changes keeps you on your toes, but a certain staleness working on the same site for that length of time...


Well I have been with the same company for 15 years, but I am needed if I left who would do my work?
Apart from a paper exercise change of employer about 3 or 4 yrs ago, I've been with same company for 19yrs.

And there is always someone who can do your job. Probably do it better as well. Nobody is irreplacable, no matter how much we like to think we aren't.  It may take a replacement a week or 2 to get up to speed, but everybody can be replaced.

Hence, I would have no quilty feelings leaving my current role.

Thats true.. only replacing the programming projects and workers need a bit more  time compared to IT administration..

And if they had the last version of codes  ;)



Well I have written large chunks of the application. more of our DOS app than the Windows app, but it would take ages to understand the system to know where to do changes - eg new pricing systems ect

Well, heres the acid test to tell whether or not you're indispensible.

Think of a number that you'd like to get paid, in your wildest dreams, and then double it. Go to your boss in the morning and tell him that, unless he pays you that sum of money,  you are going to leave and set up on your own. If he gives you the money, you are truly indispensible. Otherwise..........
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 06 November 2007, 08:48:55
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As an experience changing jobs to a higher position is a matter of courage ..Which I dont have now..So do it..

When a person becomes older also becomes lazy too..Like me  ;D
You do get the 'comfy slippers' mentality.

Trouble is, been doing my current role for 7.5yrs and getting restless.  A few technology changes keeps you on your toes, but a certain staleness working on the same site for that length of time...


Well I have been with the same company for 15 years, but I am needed if I left who would do my work?
Apart from a paper exercise change of employer about 3 or 4 yrs ago, I've been with same company for 19yrs.

And there is always someone who can do your job. Probably do it better as well. Nobody is irreplacable, no matter how much we like to think we aren't.  It may take a replacement a week or 2 to get up to speed, but everybody can be replaced.

Hence, I would have no quilty feelings leaving my current role.

Thats true.. only replacing the programming projects and workers need a bit more  time compared to IT administration..

And if they had the last version of codes  ;)



Well I have written large chunks of the application. more of our DOS app than the Windows app, but it would take ages to understand the system to know where to do changes - eg new pricing systems ect

Well, heres the acid test to tell whether or not you're indispensible.

Think of a number that you'd like to get paid, in your wildest dreams, and then double it. Go to your boss in the morning and tell him that, unless he pays you that sum of money,  you are going to leave and set up on your own. If he gives you the money, you are truly indispensible. Otherwise..........

Except the extra jobs normally I work for the govt no chance they will give me this money and wont let me go out also  ;D
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: Paul M on 06 November 2007, 15:31:36
Rather you than me working with Exchange et al. ;)

Good luck with the interview :)
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 06 November 2007, 15:35:39
Just got back from London. It was a real grilling. LOADS of very technical questions, I only struggled a tad on three, which apparently is very good. Fingers crossed!
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: Danny on 06 November 2007, 15:42:48
good result by the sound of it... :y

when do you find out?
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: Jimbob on 06 November 2007, 15:50:23
well done  :y
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: VXL V6 on 06 November 2007, 16:31:41
Well done!
When do you hear any more?

Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: Golfbuddy on 06 November 2007, 16:33:27
Sounds good James. You must be exhausted. Not on nights tonight I hope?  8-)
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: TheBoy on 06 November 2007, 18:46:37
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Rather you than me working with Exchange et al. ;)

Good luck with the interview :)
Exchange is actually quite a good email system, and 2007 in particular has some fantastic tools.  It truely does tell you what is wrong when it doesn't work now.  Mega reliable, but now (with 2007) less suitable for small workgroup servers due to resource requirements (as with most current integrated communications systems).  Does now scale up much better.

For a typical corporate mail system, its hard to beat, and hence why market leader in this market.
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: TheBoy on 06 November 2007, 18:47:15
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Just got back from London. It was a real grilling. LOADS of very technical questions, I only struggled a tad on three, which apparently is very good. Fingers crossed!
They got any other jobs going ;)
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 06 November 2007, 19:45:03
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Rather you than me working with Exchange et al. ;)

Good luck with the interview :)
Exchange is actually quite a good email system, and 2007 in particular has some fantastic tools.  It truely does tell you what is wrong when it doesn't work now.  Mega reliable, but now (with 2007) less suitable for small workgroup servers due to resource requirements (as with most current integrated communications systems).  Does now scale up much better.

For a typical corporate mail system, its hard to beat, and hence why market leader in this market.

I can say similiar for SQL Server..Really powerful ..Can be scaled from a weak laptop to a many cpu enterprise level server..

And everything works the same except the speed..And have every critical tool for sensitive high load db environments..
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 06 November 2007, 19:46:40
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Just got back from London. It was a real grilling. LOADS of very technical questions, I only struggled a tad on three, which apparently is very good. Fingers crossed!

Waiting the good news about your new job  :y
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: TheBoy on 06 November 2007, 20:18:34
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Rather you than me working with Exchange et al. ;)

Good luck with the interview :)
Exchange is actually quite a good email system, and 2007 in particular has some fantastic tools.  It truely does tell you what is wrong when it doesn't work now.  Mega reliable, but now (with 2007) less suitable for small workgroup servers due to resource requirements (as with most current integrated communications systems).  Does now scale up much better.

For a typical corporate mail system, its hard to beat, and hence why market leader in this market.

I can say similiar for SQL Server..Really powerful ..Can be scaled from a weak laptop to a many cpu enterprise level server..

And everything works the same except the speed..And have every critical tool for sensitive high load db environments..
Yup, SQL Server is an excellent database server, but is up against the almighty (if somewhat buggy) Oracle.  Not much else in that class until you get to the mainframe stuff...
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 06 November 2007, 20:36:59
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Rather you than me working with Exchange et al. ;)

Good luck with the interview :)
Exchange is actually quite a good email system, and 2007 in particular has some fantastic tools.  It truely does tell you what is wrong when it doesn't work now.  Mega reliable, but now (with 2007) less suitable for small workgroup servers due to resource requirements (as with most current integrated communications systems).  Does now scale up much better.

For a typical corporate mail system, its hard to beat, and hence why market leader in this market.

I can say similiar for SQL Server..Really powerful ..Can be scaled from a weak laptop to a many cpu enterprise level server..

And everything works the same except the speed..And have every critical tool for sensitive high load db environments..
Yup, SQL Server is an excellent database server, but is up against the almighty (if somewhat buggy) Oracle.  Not much else in that class until you get to the mainframe stuff...

Been using also Oracle Xi but never practical like SQL server and never programmer friendly ..hate it.May be I use too much microsoft tools
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: TheBoy on 06 November 2007, 20:39:42
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Rather you than me working with Exchange et al. ;)

Good luck with the interview :)
Exchange is actually quite a good email system, and 2007 in particular has some fantastic tools.  It truely does tell you what is wrong when it doesn't work now.  Mega reliable, but now (with 2007) less suitable for small workgroup servers due to resource requirements (as with most current integrated communications systems).  Does now scale up much better.

For a typical corporate mail system, its hard to beat, and hence why market leader in this market.

I can say similiar for SQL Server..Really powerful ..Can be scaled from a weak laptop to a many cpu enterprise level server..

And everything works the same except the speed..And have every critical tool for sensitive high load db environments..
Yup, SQL Server is an excellent database server, but is up against the almighty (if somewhat buggy) Oracle.  Not much else in that class until you get to the mainframe stuff...

Been using also Oracle Xi but never practical like SQL server and never programmer friendly ..hate it.May be I use too much microsoft tools
I actually like SQL Server, but I mostly support Solaris and Linux systems, hence Oracle is the DB we tend to have installed on the stuff I look after.

Fortunately, do have some Windows servers with SQL Server on, just to keep my sanity!
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 06 November 2007, 20:43:04
And one old story from past I remember I beat programmers from IBM mainframe (when I was working in a bank Data center) in Transaction rates with a small server and and little efficient code.. Key : I was reading total the data into huge matrix in memory and calculating the per branch monetary analysis.  ;D  they were too much upset when the bank coordinator see the timings.They loose the project. 8-)
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: Martin_1962 on 06 November 2007, 21:24:01
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Rather you than me working with Exchange et al. ;)

Good luck with the interview :)
Exchange is actually quite a good email system, and 2007 in particular has some fantastic tools.  It truely does tell you what is wrong when it doesn't work now.  Mega reliable, but now (with 2007) less suitable for small workgroup servers due to resource requirements (as with most current integrated communications systems).  Does now scale up much better.

For a typical corporate mail system, its hard to beat, and hence why market leader in this market.

I can say similiar for SQL Server..Really powerful ..Can be scaled from a weak laptop to a many cpu enterprise level server..

And everything works the same except the speed..And have every critical tool for sensitive high load db environments..
Yup, SQL Server is an excellent database server, but is up against the almighty (if somewhat buggy) Oracle.  Not much else in that class until you get to the mainframe stuff...

Been using also Oracle Xi but never practical like SQL server and never programmer friendly ..hate it.May be I use too much microsoft tools
I actually like SQL Server, but I mostly support Solaris and Linux systems, hence Oracle is the DB we tend to have installed on the stuff I look after.

Fortunately, do have some Windows servers with SQL Server on, just to keep my sanity!

I like Advantage Database Server, very reliable, very quick and runs on all PC servers
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: TheBoy on 06 November 2007, 21:30:42
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Rather you than me working with Exchange et al. ;)

Good luck with the interview :)
Exchange is actually quite a good email system, and 2007 in particular has some fantastic tools.  It truely does tell you what is wrong when it doesn't work now.  Mega reliable, but now (with 2007) less suitable for small workgroup servers due to resource requirements (as with most current integrated communications systems).  Does now scale up much better.

For a typical corporate mail system, its hard to beat, and hence why market leader in this market.

I can say similiar for SQL Server..Really powerful ..Can be scaled from a weak laptop to a many cpu enterprise level server..

And everything works the same except the speed..And have every critical tool for sensitive high load db environments..
Yup, SQL Server is an excellent database server, but is up against the almighty (if somewhat buggy) Oracle.  Not much else in that class until you get to the mainframe stuff...

Been using also Oracle Xi but never practical like SQL server and never programmer friendly ..hate it.May be I use too much microsoft tools
I actually like SQL Server, but I mostly support Solaris and Linux systems, hence Oracle is the DB we tend to have installed on the stuff I look after.

Fortunately, do have some Windows servers with SQL Server on, just to keep my sanity!

I like Advantage Database Server, very reliable, very quick and runs on all PC servers
Is that the old Sybase one?  Did they ever get it to work properly on proper servers?  Also, IA32 only iirc - bit limited in this day and age (may have moved on recently, so apologies if I'm behind the times).
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: Martin_1962 on 06 November 2007, 22:42:24
It was developed by Extended Systems, who were bought by Sybase

It uses DBFs rather than one giant file.

Very quick

Available on Netware, NT and Penguin OS
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: Paul M on 07 November 2007, 12:06:28
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Rather you than me working with Exchange et al. ;)

Good luck with the interview :)
Exchange is actually quite a good email system, and 2007 in particular has some fantastic tools.  It truely does tell you what is wrong when it doesn't work now.  Mega reliable, but now (with 2007) less suitable for small workgroup servers due to resource requirements (as with most current integrated communications systems).  Does now scale up much better.

For a typical corporate mail system, its hard to beat, and hence why market leader in this market.

Exchange does have the whole collaboration etc thing pretty well sewn up, but as a pure e-mail server I hate it. It's typical MS-esque in that it takes a long-established protocol but does it in its own way, meaning it only really works well with Outlook (well in the world of MS there is only one e-mail client in the world...). Its IMAP support is rather crap, and it has an uncanny ability to screw up the plain text portion of e-mails... yet another example of the philosophy of "everything is a web page" that MS adopted in the mid 90s after missing the boat that is the internet.

Never tried Exchange 2007.... not sure if we have it available via MSDN. I'd expect so but I haven't checked the list for a while.

Incidentally I can get both SQL Server and Oracle for free (non-commercial use obviously), but I can't really be bothered! I have Postgres running on my server box at home which does very little (stores my music database info via Amarok to make it accessible to web-enabled apps etc, and some other very minor things, way overkill really).
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: TheBoy on 07 November 2007, 18:15:53
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It was developed by Extended Systems, who were bought by Sybase

It uses DBFs rather than one giant file.

Very quick

Available on Netware, NT and Penguin OS
Never see it in the benchmarks, always MS' SQL v Oracle's Oracle which appear to be fastest RDBMS for midrange platforms.
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: TheBoy on 07 November 2007, 18:23:59
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Rather you than me working with Exchange et al. ;)

Good luck with the interview :)
Exchange is actually quite a good email system, and 2007 in particular has some fantastic tools.  It truely does tell you what is wrong when it doesn't work now.  Mega reliable, but now (with 2007) less suitable for small workgroup servers due to resource requirements (as with most current integrated communications systems).  Does now scale up much better.

For a typical corporate mail system, its hard to beat, and hence why market leader in this market.

Exchange does have the whole collaboration etc thing pretty well sewn up, but as a pure e-mail server I hate it. It's typical MS-esque in that it takes a long-established protocol but does it in its own way, meaning it only really works well with Outlook (well in the world of MS there is only one e-mail client in the world...). Its IMAP support is rather crap, and it has an uncanny ability to screw up the plain text portion of e-mails... yet another example of the philosophy of "everything is a web page" that MS adopted in the mid 90s after missing the boat that is the internet.

Never tried Exchange 2007.... not sure if we have it available via MSDN. I'd expect so but I haven't checked the list for a while.

Incidentally I can get both SQL Server and Oracle for free (non-commercial use obviously), but I can't really be bothered! I have Postgres running on my server box at home which does very little (stores my music database info via Amarok to make it accessible to web-enabled apps etc, and some other very minor things, way overkill really).
Yup, Exchange aimed at business use, so POP3/IMAP is unsuitable.  Both POP3 and IMAP work OK on Exchange, but for pure 'isp' type email, Exchange is too expensive.  OWA is really the only reason to use Exchange in a reseller type environment, as most webmail systems, inc Squirellmail that we use at OOF, are poor by comparison.

SQL Server Express is free, and more than adequate for small scale stuff. Lacks big database support, and any useful replication options, otherwise the same as real SQL Server.  And can be used commercially ;)

Nought wrong with overkill. Never played much with postgresql, always seem to go down the mysql route on linux.
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 07 November 2007, 18:31:16
New version of MS SQL Server (2008 -Katmai)  supports  64 CPUs ..

Going past in the time even SQL Server 2000 was capable of handling more transactions than the worlds biggest banks transaction rates if I remember correctly..

Anyway Oracle have an advantage of working on High TPS Unix platforms that have 90-100 Cpus..

Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: Martin_1962 on 07 November 2007, 18:49:41
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It was developed by Extended Systems, who were bought by Sybase

It uses DBFs rather than one giant file.

Very quick

Available on Netware, NT and Penguin OS
Never see it in the benchmarks, always MS' SQL v Oracle's Oracle which appear to be fastest RDBMS for midrange platforms.


Seen someone claiming that their app was over 200 times quicker with ADS than MSSQL on same hardware.

Had a play with a 2.5 million line order file today, huge site in Yorkshire, wanted to know how much made this year and how much was over 40kg.

File was too big to use non ADS drivers, the Clipper standard DBF driver choaked on a copy so I used an ADS enabled proggy on live data.

As to servers one of our customers is replacing a three year old Netware box with a new Netware box, I think we have 3 or 4 on Netware now.



Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 07 November 2007, 19:10:12
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It was developed by Extended Systems, who were bought by Sybase

It uses DBFs rather than one giant file.

Very quick

Available on Netware, NT and Penguin OS
Never see it in the benchmarks, always MS' SQL v Oracle's Oracle which appear to be fastest RDBMS for midrange platforms.


Seen someone claiming that their app was over 200 times quicker with ADS than MSSQL on same hardware.

Had a play with a 2.5 million line order file today, huge site in Yorkshire, wanted to know how much made this year and how much was over 40kg.

File was too big to use non ADS drivers, the Clipper standard DBF driver choaked on a copy so I used an ADS enabled proggy on live data.

As to servers one of our customers is replacing a three year old Netware box with a new Netware box, I think we have 3 or 4 on Netware now.




Sorry what means "ADS"  abbreviation  ?
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: Martin_1962 on 07 November 2007, 19:48:31
Advantage Database Server
Title: Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 07 November 2007, 19:54:08
Whatever your are comfortable with and suits your needs its OK for you  :y

In my organization they pay 1 million US $ for a SAP project.Loads of s***.Working slow.. Instead we could simply write it with .NET just in a salary cost