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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: rockayansky on 18 November 2008, 17:40:35
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Hi.
....basicly I have a Cherokee and after having 2 (4.0's) of them I now thinks it's time to go back to a regular car.
We have an 07 Vectra SRi 150 CDTi too, and after having a first genration vectra when I was 19 (nearly 9 years ago) I swore I would never have another vauxhxall..........but we went for it.
Any way I like the Omega; nice big comfy rear drive salon, so could you please tell me what to look for, whats the best model to go for best engine size etc.
I took a 'W' plate facelift one out this 'arvo; a 2.0 auto. It did seem a little under powered but I was expecting that. Do they ecotec's in the omega suffer the same probs as the ones used in vectras? Coz as i said I did have a 1.8 at one point and the cam belt let go about 2000 before a change was due and I replaced the cam sensor 3 times and a crank sensor. I'd like a V6; would there be much difference between the consumption of that and a 2.0? I'd just like to know peoples opinions and expeiences. Thanks
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definatly get a v6 bud ! 3.0 mv6 would be best or if you want loads of toys get an elite !! cambelt and tensioners every 40k or 4 years ! 50/50 mix antifreeze and oil every 6 months and it will go forever :y
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A 3 litre Saloon is ideal, there has been talk on here before about preferences, most of us will agree to disagree on some issues. The 3l's are certainly more powerful than the 2.5's and the economy is barely any different so I'm told, the v6 's are ideal, auto boxes are generally bulletproof if looked after, i.e. oil and filter changed. Regular engine oil and filter changes are advisable too every 4k is good, easy for a d.i.y mechanic.
On any VX it's maximum 40k for a cambelt change, £300 plus at a stealer or the price of a cambelt and some beer for the boys at a cambelt party. Depending on the age of the the car and cc there's the £400 tax disc, or less.
My opinion, a 3.0 or a 3.2 is ideal for most applications.
Buy one, you know you want to... just be prepared for the above//
DC ;)
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Totally agree - Get an MV6. they are cheap as chips and if you treat it well, it will serve you well. i have had three 2.0 and the head gasket went on 2 and the gearbox went on another. The car is just too big for that sized engine.
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And also very important make sure the breather system is cleaned out every year or so...or you will need to spend out on cam covers leaking...2.0 is generally a little underpowered for weight, as said v6 all the way!
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i found my 16v fine aslong as you didnt want to drive it round everywhere with the whole family in
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Owned a 2.0 16V saloon before this MV6 3.0 The 2.0 was a bit under powered. The 3.0 is not...
The torque from the 3.0 seems to be perfect for the size and weight of the car. The better suspension also improves the driving experience. The standard Omega handling is still good though IMO.
For motorway cruising, the MV6 even beats my old '52 plate 525d Sport.
And the sound of the V6 when you open the taps is awesome ;D
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I bought my 1998 2.5 Elite in June 2005 with 69k on the clock, current mileage 151k, it has never let me down, at times covering 700 miles in a day without missing a beat, made sure the oil & filter were changed ever 4k (Vauxhall 10/40 semi), cam belt at 40k, auto fluid and filter also changed 70k then 140k.
Between 1994 and 2001 I had four Omega as company cars, 3 were 2 litre CDX autos which covered well over 25k a year, again never had a problem, but not as powerful as the V6 engines. Fuel around town is low with all engine types, but in the 30s on 'A' roads and motorways.
regards
richard a
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Its really down to the individual, how you drive, how much your prepared to pay, and what comfort level your expect. I do wonder if its worth buying a v6 if you sit at 60 in lane 1 for instance? Lazy comfort maybe, fair enough, but if its for economy, by a 2.0 although the v6 is smoother. I ignored the 4 pots when i was looking, thinking they are under powered, ive now driven a mates and was pleasantly suprised in a does the job style.
The trick really is finding a good rust free low mileage example of what ever model for fair money. In all honesty, the omega is as inexpensive as it gets as cars go,any cheaper alternatives are just not worth haveing imho. So with that in mind and the info available on here, theses no real reason not to spend money looking after it. Yes the v6 is juicy, but youll have to spend alot more to get a more economical car of the same spec. So i dont mind the fuel bills, esp. as i have an lpg kit comeing any day now :-). spending a few quid on fuel and serviceing really should be expected. I guess most on here would say they would like a late as possible 3.2 elite and for me, being a"cake and eat it" type, got to be the one to go for... Love it!
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Yeah I thought of an lpg conversion as it really does make a difference. But then saying that My cherokee only does about 16 to the gallon. I'd love to know what an lpg conversion feels like on a V6 omega......just to see. It's fine in a 4.0 straight six but I wonder if the vx motor is a bit too 'fragile' to be used like that.........oh god decisions decisions!!!!!! :-/ :-/
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i found my 16v fine aslong as you didnt want to drive it round everywhere with the whole family in
How do you go on holidays or days out then, send the Mrs and kids on there bikes ;D ;D ;D
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I've had a 2.5 V6 for just over 18 months. Fuel economy is not bad for the size of the car and engine although I was hoping for a bit more. Maybe it's the way I drive it but I get about 300 - 340 miles to a tank which the trip equates to an average of 24mpg ish.
I've heard manual cars are quite a bit better in the ecnomy department.
I drove a 2.0 recently and was also pleasantly surprised by the power and obvioulsy the fuel economy was better This was a manual car and I think as good as the auto's are, they do sap a fair bit of power.
One thing that is a plus with a V6 is the noise - Modify your airbox, find a tunnel, enjoy!
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Yeah I thought of an lpg conversion as it really does make a difference. But then saying that My cherokee only does about 16 to the gallon. I'd love to know what an lpg conversion feels like on a V6 omega......just to see. It's fine in a 4.0 straight six but I wonder if the vx motor is a bit too 'fragile' to be used like that.........oh god decisions decisions!!!!!! :-/ :-/
24mpg will probably be a pleasant bonus for you!
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I've had a 2.5 V6 for just over 18 months. Fuel economy is not bad for the size of the car and engine although I was hoping for a bit more. Maybe it's the way I drive it but I get about 300 - 340 miles to a tank which the trip equates to an average of 24mpg ish.
I've heard manual cars are quite a bit better in the ecnomy department.
I drove a 2.0 recently and was also pleasantly surprised by the power and obvioulsy the fuel economy was better This was a manual car and I think as good as the auto's are, they do sap a fair bit of power.
One thing that is a plus with a V6 is the noise - Modify your airbox, find a tunnel, enjoy!
They wouldnt have cruise control on them would they which is the muts nuts on the motorwy and decent roads. :y
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Yeah I thought of an lpg conversion as it really does make a difference. But then saying that My cherokee only does about 16 to the gallon. I'd love to know what an lpg conversion feels like on a V6 omega......just to see. It's fine in a 4.0 straight six but I wonder if the vx motor is a bit too 'fragile' to be used like that.........oh god decisions decisions!!!!!! :-/ :-/
It feels no different than on petrol, TBH. I never know when mine has switched over to LPG in the morning.
They wouldnt have cruise control on them would they which is the muts nuts on the motorwy and decent roads.
No reason why you can't have cruise on a manual.
Kevin
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No reason why you can't have cruise on a manual.
I dont knowas mines auto, just didnt think manuals would as they cant change gear like an auto could. :-[
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It has all been said. Personally I would go for a 3.2 auto (Oh, I have ;D), but in addition to the excellent advice above do be aware of the difference in road tax prices for cars with bigger engines that are registered after March 2001. If you care, you're ongoing running costs will be less for a pre-2001 car; although I have heard rumours that this road tax hike may have been postponed.
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ar yes, just remembed the other reason i dismissed the 4 pot. I want an auto, which saps the power a little. The 4 pot i drove was a manual.
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Personally would go for a manual..Autos on low speeds thrash the performance a bit..
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The motors iv'e looked into all have autos which lead me to believe that manuals are resonably rare on V6's.
By the way 16 mpg on my Cherokee equates to about 32 in LPG money.......
What's the earliest Elite facelift I can get? It gets me soooo mad that a car made a couple of weeks either side of the tax threshhold can be so differnt in tax.....what a rip!!!!!!!
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w regd i think is earliest :-/
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aye the earliest f/l ive seen is a W reg!
my MV6 has cruise and its manual!!! doesnt need to change gear as cruise is designed for motorways/long a roads where lots of gear changing isnt required!
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you can buy facelift omega with 3.0 motor with mean low tax for next year and also round town 16 - 19 mpg long run 30 mpg ish 70-75 mph
if you go for 3.2 more dear tax but possyble better MPG then on 3.0
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I've had a 2.5 V6 for just over 18 months. Fuel economy is not bad for the size of the car and engine although I was hoping for a bit more. Maybe it's the way I drive it but I get about 300 - 340 miles to a tank which the trip equates to an average of 24mpg ish.
I've heard manual cars are quite a bit better in the ecnomy department.
I drove a 2.0 recently and was also pleasantly surprised by the power and obvioulsy the fuel economy was better This was a manual car and I think as good as the auto's are, they do sap a fair bit of power.
One thing that is a plus with a V6 is the noise - Modify your airbox, find a tunnel, enjoy!
They wouldnt have cruise control on them would they which is the muts nuts on the motorwy and decent roads. :y
ok I've got a 2.5 manual with cruise. The cruise is retrofit with help of the forum. parts easily available from egay etc.
So what's the answer here. economy is governed by driving style: i get 33mpg in town by driving carefully: this compares well to other cars particularly 1.6 focus driven by boy racers who think speeding up to 40pmh is impressive (terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired....). the 3.0 should be similar although i've never driven one.
As to top end performance, if on the odd occasion you need or want to push your cal along then you will not miss a V6: it will clear 90pmh in third whether a 2.5 or 3.0 and it will pull way beyond 30mph with ease
my very personal view is go for a V6 because of the smile it puts on your face when you open it up. Also given the green/gordon brown bridaade we are unlikely to see many V6 cars in the future:enjoy one while you can.
oh and whith the torque on a V6 it will pull in 5th from 30mph to beyond 140mph in a manual
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ok I've got a 2.5 manual with cruise. .... 3.0 should be similar although i've never driven one. ......
Although there's only 30 odd bhp difference between the two it is non the less quite noticable...... :y
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ok I've got a 2.5 manual with cruise. .... 3.0 should be similar although i've never driven one. ......
Although there's only 30 odd bhp difference between the two it is non the less quite noticable...... :y
agreed: I think the ideal motor is something that is reasonably econimical when you feel like driving like gandad but can shift when you want to. to me it mean a manual V6. any yes if I could lay my hands on s 3.2 i'd go for that over a 2.5/2.6 brecause of the additional grunt bit the 3.2 manual is only ex-plod