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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Nickbat on 05 December 2008, 22:17:16
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Had a bit of trouble starting the car on two occasions this week. The engine started but then died a few seconds later, with the EML light flashing. Pretty sure that the crank is sensor giving up (as on my old 1995 Miggy). I am surprised this time round, though, as my facelift has only done 24k miles. :(
Two questions:
1) On the 2.5, you couldn't reroute the cable in the original factory fitted way. Does that apply to the 2.6 as well? Also is the connector block fitting at the top end the same as on the 2.5?
2) Any idea of Vx price? (Only option as tomorrow is Saturday, so can't get a cheaper Ebay item in time and need the car early next week).
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If the EML flashes during starting I'm pretty sure its an immobilisor problem, for all other faults the EML is on steady and the codes need reading ...
have you tried the pedal trick for the 2.6 ?
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As said...
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If the EML flashes during starting I'm pretty sure its an immobilisor problem, for all other faults the EML is on steady and the codes need reading ...
have you tried the pedal trick for the 2.6 ?
Pedal trick? You've got me there. :-? :-?
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Actually, if I remember correctly the EML light only flashed when the engine died (so it initially went out when the engine fired up under the normal self-diagnosis routine).
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"Pedal trick" info is here ..
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1189022687
and it works very well on the 3.2 .. so I believe it works just as well on the 2.6 .. :)
Use in conjunction with this site ..
http://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/
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"Pedal trick" info is here ..
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1189022687
and it works very well on the 3.2 .. so I believe it works just as well on the 2.6 .. :)
Use in conjunction with this site ..
http://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/
Cheers, Entwood. I'll have a read now. :y :y
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"Pedal trick" info is here ..
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1189022687
and it works very well on the 3.2 .. so I believe it works just as well on the 2.6 .. :)
Use in conjunction with this site ..
http://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/
I would use the code lists posted on this site - more accurate :-X
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and yes, pedal trick works fine on 2.6
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Just remembered that a week or so back, I drove the kids to the swimming pool and SWMBO then took the Miggy for an onward journey to the supermarket. When she came to pick us up she said that the TC light had been on all the way to the supermarket, but vanished when she returned after shopping.
Red herring? (and, no, she didn't buy one, before you lot start! ;) ;D) or a clue to my current problems. :-?
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Just checked the pedal test output:
The flashes I'm getting are:
1, 6
1, 3
1, 6
1, 2
End.
Can't seem to relate this to the linked table of fault codes. :(
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While awaiting some help, I've been thinking. ::)
My key fob has been getting a bit iffy lately and I think it may need a new battery. Could it be that, recently, the dying battery has meant that the transponder chip is not being read by the barrel and has made the immobliser kick in (cutting the fuel flow) as it thinks the car's being nicked?
Or is that theory complete rubbish? :-[
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Just checked the pedal test output:
The flashes I'm getting are:
1, 6
1, 3
1, 6
1, 2
End.
Can't seem to relate this to the linked table of fault codes. :(
2.6 will have 4 digit P codes, so 1613 and 1612?
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Just checked the pedal test output:
The flashes I'm getting are:
1, 6
1, 3
1, 6
1, 2
End.
Can't seem to relate this to the linked table of fault codes. :(
2.6 will have 4 digit P codes, so 1613 and 1612?
Which checking http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1220619694 gives immobiliser.....
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Which would match the flashing EML symptom.
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I wonder if the chip has become loose and moved in the key ?? .. I had a similar problem on the old car .. fixed by superglueing the chip into place in the key ... :)
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Definately worth checking....as always, rule out the simple things.
Other thing is.....do you have a spare key to try
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OK, success, of sorts, er, I think....
Changed the fob battery and made sure the transponder was properly seated. Started OK. :y
Then, changed the main battery as the old one was sounding laboured on turnover. Got a proper GM job. Car started OK. :y
Went to lock up the car and noticed that I have a lazy lock solenoid on the driver's door. >:(
Dammit, I only changed the passenger on a few months back! And I hate changing them. Any quick fixes?
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OK, success, of sorts, er, I think....
Changed the fob battery and made sure the transponder was properly seated. Started OK. :y
Then, changed the main battery as the old one was sounding laboured on turnover. Got a proper GM job. Car started OK. :y
Went to lock up the car and noticed that I have a lazy lock solenoid on the driver's door. >:(
Dammit, I only changed the passenger on a few months back! And I hate changing them. Any quick fixes?
Well Nichbat my passenger button was acting very slowly, and sometimes sticking during this week. THought sod it I haven't got the time for a full strip down of the door panel, so put a load of WD40 down the side of the button! ;) ;)
Working fine now!! ;D ;)
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OK, success, of sorts, er, I think....
Changed the fob battery and made sure the transponder was properly seated. Started OK. :y
Then, changed the main battery as the old one was sounding laboured on turnover. Got a proper GM job. Car started OK. :y
Went to lock up the car and noticed that I have a lazy lock solenoid on the driver's door. >:(
Dammit, I only changed the passenger on a few months back! And I hate changing them. Any quick fixes?
Well Nichbat my passenger button was acting very slowly, and sometimes sticking during this week. THought sod it I haven't got the time for a full strip down of the door panel, so put a load of WD40 down the side of the button! ;) ;)
Working fine now!! ;D ;)
Thanks, Lizzie. Got a can of WD40 in the shed. Off to try it out now! :y
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OK, success, of sorts, er, I think....
Changed the fob battery and made sure the transponder was properly seated. Started OK. :y
Then, changed the main battery as the old one was sounding laboured on turnover. Got a proper GM job. Car started OK. :y
Went to lock up the car and noticed that I have a lazy lock solenoid on the driver's door. >:(
Dammit, I only changed the passenger on a few months back! And I hate changing them. Any quick fixes?
Well Nichbat my passenger button was acting very slowly, and sometimes sticking during this week. THought sod it I haven't got the time for a full strip down of the door panel, so put a load of WD40 down the side of the button! ;) ;)
Working fine now!! ;D ;)
Thanks, Lizzie. Got a can of WD40 in the shed. Off to try it out now! :y
Didn't work, I'm afraid. Have to lock the car with a key and then, when I return to unlock it, the power sounder goes off. Tried popping the pillar down before I central lock, but it won't budge. Bleedin' annoying! :(
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immobiliser issue - I found if i had both my omega keys on same keyring, once in a while I got immobiliser issue. I assumed it was both transponders responding and corrupting signal....
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immobiliser issue - I found if i had both my omega keys on same keyring, once in a while I got immobiliser issue. I assumed it was both transponders responding and corrupting signal....
Thanks TB. I haven't both keys on the same ring. If it is still an immobiliser issue, I really can't think what to do next, other than replace the immobiliser unit - which will cost an arm and a leg. Can't think of any other way of checking the system out.
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immobiliser issue - I found if i had both my omega keys on same keyring, once in a while I got immobiliser issue. I assumed it was both transponders responding and corrupting signal....
Thanks TB. I haven't both keys on the same ring. If it is still an immobiliser issue, I really can't think what to do next, other than replace the immobiliser unit - which will cost an arm and a leg. Can't think of any other way of checking the system out.
if you have a spare key, take MDTM's advice and use it for a while. If that cures it, get a new transponder programmed.
If you don't have a spare key, consider getting one!
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immobiliser issue - I found if i had both my omega keys on same keyring, once in a while I got immobiliser issue. I assumed it was both transponders responding and corrupting signal....
Thanks TB. I haven't both keys on the same ring. If it is still an immobiliser issue, I really can't think what to do next, other than replace the immobiliser unit - which will cost an arm and a leg. Can't think of any other way of checking the system out.
if you have a spare key, take MDTM's advice and use it for a while. If that cures it, get a new transponder programmed.
If you don't have a spare key, consider getting one!
Cheers, TB. I do have a spare, but it's only a manual lock type. I'll use it for a few days and see what transpires. :y
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Well I tried with the spare manual key. Started the car with it..fine. Switched off, got out of the car and activated the central locking by manually turning the key in the lock. Went out later and unlocked the car with the same key...Off goes power sounder. And I'm outside without the remote. Sod it! So I have to get back in the house and find the remote to switch off the power sounder.
Hmm, so that idea doesn't seem to work work.
But here's something else I don't understand. When the key in the ignition, I can push the driver's lock pillar down easily and the whole car will lock. I can open the driver's door and do the same. But, if I remove the key from the ignition, it won't push down. This means that, to lock the driver's door, I have to close it reach in from the rear door and push the pillar down, then close the rear door, activate the remote lock and then everything is locked and the alarm is then armed. Guess, I'll have to do the reverse to gte in without the power sounder going off.
I think this problem is going to take a fair while to sort out, 'cos it's all a bleedin' mystery to me. ;) ;D
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need to replace soleniod matey ! manually locking is fine but as you know alarm goes off when you unlock !! :y
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Open both keys up and swap the immobiliser chips over ....that way you have the 'other' immobilisr chip and the remote key :y
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Open both keys up and swap the immobiliser chips over ....that way you have the 'other' immobilisr chip and the remote key :y
Good thinking, Mark. Cheers. :y