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Title: How much should I be asking for an MV6 manual box?
Post by: IrmscherKris on 09 November 2007, 21:58:27
As above. I don't think I'll be opening it up and putting the insides in a TD box anymore... Too much faffing about.
The box itself has done just over 75k doesnt whine, crunch or have and play in the selector mechanism. But could probably do with fresh oil sticking in it for good measure as I have no knowledge of this been done.

As always, any ideas appreciated  :y  
Title: Re: How much should I be asking for an MV6 manual
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 09 November 2007, 21:59:48
Not a lot, because gearboxes are quite common.

Maybe £70 (guess) if it's in really good order.

If the gearchange is smooth as silk from cold, I may well be very interested. My gearbox is sh1te....
Title: Re: How much should I be asking for an MV6 manual
Post by: IrmscherKris on 09 November 2007, 22:03:17
It changes the same, from cold to temp.  :y

When you say yours is sh1te, whats wrong with it? have you tried changing the oil?
Title: Re: How much should I be asking for an MV6 manual
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 09 November 2007, 22:05:20
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It changes the same, from cold to temp.  :y

When you say yours is sh1te, whats wrong with it? have you tried changing the oil?

Yup, two oil changes with the right stuff. Box is smooth as silk when warmed up, but when it's cold first thing in morning, the gearchange is horrible. I've already fitted a new clutch kit and bled hydraulics - no difference from cold though.
Title: Re: How much should I be asking for an MV6 manual
Post by: STMO123 on 09 November 2007, 22:05:34
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It changes the same, from cold to temp.  :y

When you say yours is sh1te, whats wrong with it? have you tried changing the oil?

It was always shite. That's why I sold it to some unsuspecting young fella. :y
Title: Re: How much should I be asking for an MV6 manual
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 09 November 2007, 22:05:59
I blame Victor Meldrew for ragging the bowlocks off it  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: How much should I be asking for an MV6 manual
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 09 November 2007, 22:07:01
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It changes the same, from cold to temp.  :y

When you say yours is sh1te, whats wrong with it? have you tried changing the oil?

It was always shite. That's why I sold it to some unsuspecting young fella. :y

;D ;D

At the end of the day, I'm not that worried. I'll probably live with it until it dies.

Ultimately, a decent second hand gearbox costs less than a bloody DIS pack.... and I can change it in a day.
Title: Re: How much should I be asking for an MV6 manual
Post by: STMO123 on 09 November 2007, 22:08:53
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It changes the same, from cold to temp.  :y

When you say yours is sh1te, whats wrong with it? have you tried changing the oil?

It was always shite. That's why I sold it to some unsuspecting young fella. :y

;D ;D

At the end of the day, I'm not that worried. I'll probably live with it until it dies.

Ultimately, a decent second hand gearbox costs less than a bloody DIS pack.... and I can change it in a day.

I've had a couple of cars like that. they rarely get any worse and you just live with it.
Title: Re: How much should I be asking for an MV6 manual
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 09 November 2007, 22:10:12
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It changes the same, from cold to temp.  :y

When you say yours is sh1te, whats wrong with it? have you tried changing the oil?

It was always shite. That's why I sold it to some unsuspecting young fella. :y

;D ;D

At the end of the day, I'm not that worried. I'll probably live with it until it dies.

Ultimately, a decent second hand gearbox costs less than a bloody DIS pack.... and I can change it in a day.

I've had a couple of cars like that. they rarely get any worse and you just live with it.

I remember my old PUG 405, was awful when cold - when warmed up, it was absolutely fine.

Unusual on a vauxhall box though... this is the first case I've really seen of it.
Title: Re: How much should I be asking for an MV6 manual
Post by: STMO123 on 09 November 2007, 22:12:21
The alfa's a little bit that way, but only for 30 secs or so.
Title: Re: How much should I be asking for an MV6 manual
Post by: IrmscherKris on 09 November 2007, 22:14:45
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I remember my old PUG 405, was awful when cold - when warmed up, it was absolutely fine.

My sister had an PUG 306 S16 - you needed a sledge hammer to change gear when it was cold!
Title: Re: How much should I be asking for an MV6 manual
Post by: STMO123 on 09 November 2007, 22:16:18
So I guess it's not that uncommon. Remember, it's ATF in the omega, seems a bit thin to me.
Title: Re: How much should I be asking for an MV6 manual
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 09 November 2007, 22:18:14
I've even driven brand new cars that suffer with this, I think it's just "one of those things"

Laidback drove my car from cold, and typically, it behaved for him :( ;D

I wonder if a different / revised oil that might help? I've only ever used the right VX one in it though.

Molyslip?   [smiley=evil.gif]
Title: Re: How much should I be asking for an MV6 manual
Post by: Martin_1962 on 09 November 2007, 22:21:20
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It changes the same, from cold to temp.  :y

When you say yours is sh1te, whats wrong with it? have you tried changing the oil?

Yup, two oil changes with the right stuff. Box is smooth as silk when warmed up, but when it's cold first thing in morning, the gearchange is horrible. I've already fitted a new clutch kit and bled hydraulics - no difference from cold though.


Sounds like my first Omega
Title: Re: How much should I be asking for an MV6 manual
Post by: STMO123 on 09 November 2007, 22:24:56
When I first joined VxON, I asked about this. MARKS_DTM told me that all omegas suffered and, when they where serviced by Vx, they changed the oil for a different one. I seem to remember that the box should be topped up to 9mm below the filler. This seemed important, but I wonder how many of us actually do that?
Title: Re: How much should I be asking for an MV6 manual
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 09 November 2007, 22:26:42
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When I first joined VxON, I asked about this. MARKS_DTM told me that all omegas suffered and, when they where serviced by Vx, they changed the oil for a different one. I seem to remember that the box should be topped up to 9mm below the filler. This seemed important, but I wonder how many of us actually do that?

Hmm... I just drained it dry, and pumped the correct amount in there  ::)
Title: Re: How much should I be asking for an MV6 manual
Post by: IrmscherKris on 09 November 2007, 22:36:53
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I seem to remember that the box should be topped up to 9mm below the filler. This seemed important, but I wonder how many of us actually do that?
Well I've only ever changed the oil on manuals if a, I thought it really needs it OR b, it's off the car anyway.

DONT TALK TO ME ABOUT HANDSFREE BOXES THOUGH!  >:(

I remember one night a year or two ago. On the drive 11pm covered in ATF following a box swap. Changed the oil and filter for good mesure, got in a "stuck" position and had ATF in my mouth and all over my body... :( I said never again but... well, you get the picture.
Title: Re: How much should I be asking for an MV6 manual
Post by: Kevin Wood on 09 November 2007, 23:17:27
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I've even driven brand new cars that suffer with this, I think it's just "one of those things"
I wonder if a different / revised oil that might help? I've only ever used the right VX one in it though.

I've heard it makes a difference, especially when cold shift quality. Vx seem to have changed the spec. several times. I wonder if that was in response to complaints?

Might be the usual drivel that accompanies the "o" word. Who knows?  :-/

Kevin

Title: Re: How much should I be asking for an MV6 manual
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 09 November 2007, 23:18:59
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I seem to remember that the box should be topped up to 9mm below the filler. This seemed important, but I wonder how many of us actually do that?
Well I've only ever changed the oil on manuals if a, I thought it really needs it OR b, it's off the car anyway.

DONT TALK TO ME ABOUT HANDSFREE BOXES THOUGH!  >:(

I remember one night a year or two ago. On the drive 11pm covered in ATF following a box swap. Changed the oil and filter for good mesure, got in a "stuck" position and had ATF in my mouth and all over my body... :( I said never again but... well, you get the picture.

I bl*dy hate ATF, it's nasty stuff......

I'm sure it won't be the last time I get a shower with it, though!
Title: Re: How much should I be asking for an MV6 manual
Post by: Kevin Wood on 09 November 2007, 23:24:06
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I bl*dy hate ATF, it's nasty stuff......  
 
I'm sure it won't be the last time I get a shower with it, though!

There's nothing like having your hair styled with something that smells about as attractive as cat's pee!
The special oil for my Ford manual box is worse. Just as smelly and rank as ATF but almost as thick as EP90 so you try getting it out of your hair  >:(

Kevin
Title: Re: How much should I be asking for an MV6 manual
Post by: CaptainZok on 09 November 2007, 23:24:41
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I seem to remember that the box should be topped up to 9mm below the filler. This seemed important, but I wonder how many of us actually do that?
Well I've only ever changed the oil on manuals if a, I thought it really needs it OR b, it's off the car anyway.

DONT TALK TO ME ABOUT HANDSFREE BOXES THOUGH!  >:(

I remember one night a year or two ago. On the drive 11pm covered in ATF following a box swap. Changed the oil and filter for good mesure, got in a "stuck" position and had ATF in my mouth and all over my body... :( I said never again but... well, you get the picture.

I bl*dy hate ATF, it's nasty stuff......

I'm sure it won't be the last time I get a shower with it, though!
Reminds me of a very cold christmas hols years ago when me and a mate spent 3 days crawling around in the stuff under his dads volvo 244 changing the box twice.
The smell goes after a couple of days though. ;D