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Title: possible timing belt broken
Post by: leeh001 on 23 December 2008, 21:05:09
emgine management light came a 100 yards later a gradual loss of power then nothing. am i right in thinking my timing belt has snapped. if so do i scrap the car , put a new engine, or just buy a new car. i drive a 1996 elite 3.0 v6
Title: Re: possible timing belt broken
Post by: vauxfan2k on 23 December 2008, 21:14:08
you are best posting this in the general help section, far more people will see it there, this section is for forum issues like missing pics etc.

cheers  ;)
Title: Re: possible timing belt broken
Post by: Entwood on 23 December 2008, 22:00:26
As said .. into the other part of the forum is best ..

but IMHO a timing belt ... or Cam-belt as we call it would not give a gradual loss of power .. but an almighty bang and instant loss.. !!

As you have an EML light on... have a read here ..

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1189022687

then post up the results in the general help section.

If you stick your car/engine type and location in your profile it will save you being asked a zillion times :)

Problem could be as simple as a crank sensor ... 30 minute fix .. !!!  :)

:)
Title: Re: possible timing belt broken
Post by: ngrainqey on 23 December 2008, 23:23:03
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As said .. into the other part of the forum is best ..

but IMHO a timing belt ... or Cam-belt as we call it would not give a gradual loss of power .. but an almighty bang and instant loss.. !!

As you have an EML light on... have a read here ..

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1189022687

then post up the results in the general help section.

If you stick your car/engine type and location in your profile it will save you being asked a zillion times :)

Problem could be as simple as a crank sensor ... 30 minute fix .. !!!  :)

:)

does it really take you 30 mins :P
trying to yank the last one out i swapped must have took 30 minutes alone otherwise it would have only took me 15 mins!
Title: Re: possible timing belt broken
Post by: Entwood on 23 December 2008, 23:31:46
I know MarkDTM probably does this in 7.275315 seconds ... but I'm old, slow, and senile .....

If I have to do this damned thermostat it'll probably be a 3 day job !!!

:(
Title: possible timing belt broken
Post by: hotel21 on 23 December 2008, 23:39:13
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Title: Re: possible timing belt broken
Post by: Welung666 on 24 December 2008, 09:58:00
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emgine management light came a 100 yards later a gradual loss of power then nothing. am i right in thinking my timing belt has snapped. if so do i scrap the car , put a new engine, or just buy a new car. i drive a 1996 elite 3.0 v6

Where abouts are you Lee? Maybe someone local could take a look for you :y
Title: Re: possible timing belt broken
Post by: Elite Pete on 24 December 2008, 12:23:42
As Entwood says, do the paperclip test first to see what codes are stored. If the cambelt has snapped you can sell the car to me :)
Title: Re: possible timing belt broken
Post by: ngrainqey on 24 December 2008, 12:28:35
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I know MarkDTM probably does this in 7.275315 seconds ... but I'm old, slow, and senile .....

If I have to do this damned thermostat it'll probably be a 3 day job !!!

:(

the thermostat should be do-able over a weekend from how fast i'v had the plenum off!
it's just a pain because you'll lose a bit of water with undoing the bottom rad hose!
Title: Re: possible timing belt broken
Post by: ngrainqey on 24 December 2008, 12:30:20
...it doesnt sound like its the timing belt to me unless there were quite a few bangs as it came to a stop it could be a tensioner though if the belts jumped teeth in a series of jumps as it's lost tension
Title: Re: possible timing belt broken
Post by: CDX_Steve on 24 December 2008, 14:05:29
The lack of power could be because it's gone into a limp mode, you do notice a big difference when that happens, maybe a sensor has failed, a belt going would sound pretty bad as already mentioned
Title: Re: possible timing belt broken
Post by: leeh001 on 25 December 2008, 14:06:02
no big bang, just lose of power then no power. someone mentioned limp mode? explain what this is
Title: Re: possible timing belt broken
Post by: Entwood on 25 December 2008, 14:20:32
If the ECU senses a problem, or fails, the engine goes into "limp mode" ... EML light on and limited to about 3000 rpm IMSMR... in "ford speak" it was "get you home mode"

Page 150 of  http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.reynolds983/Manuals/Omega2002Manual.pdf

mentions it... :(

As I said before ... read the fault codes if the EML light is on and tell us the numbers .. :)
Title: Re: possible timing belt broken
Post by: leeh001 on 27 December 2008, 11:23:56
problem solved tensioners slipped. thanks everybody for your help :y
Title: Re: possible timing belt broken
Post by: Proz on 27 December 2008, 12:20:50
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...it doesnt sound like its the timing belt to me unless there were quite a few bangs as it came to a stop it could be a tensioner though if the belts jumped teeth in a series of jumps as it's lost tension

When the belt went im my old miggy at about 40mph there were no bangs or noises..... it was like someone just turned the ignition off .... exept all the dash lights came on .... no noises at all  :'( :'(