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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: STMO123 on 09 November 2007, 12:23:57
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Just heard it on my wind-up radio. Doing 45 or over in a 30 limit, 6 points and £100 fine.
Quite right!
I'd shoot the b*stards. >:(
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Just heard it on my wind-up radio. Doing 45 or over in a 30 limit, 6 points and £100 fine.
Quite right!
I'd shoot the b*stards. >:(
Just 'cos your Alfa won't do 45, there's no need to deny the rest of us that pleasure. Miserable git. ;) ;D ;D
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Just heard it on my wind-up radio. Doing 45 or over in a 30 limit, 6 points and £100 fine.
Quite right!
I'd shoot the b*stards. >:(
Just 'cos your Alfa won't do 45, there's no need to deny the rest of us that pleasure. Miserable git. ;) ;D ;D
My alfa will do 145, as long as I dont mind stopping for fuel every ten minutes :(
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I agree with all the laws regarding speeding, THERE IS NO NEED FOR IT.
:y :y :y
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Just heard it on my wind-up radio. Doing 45 or over in a 30 limit, 6 points and £100 fine.
Quite right!
I'd shoot the b*stards. >:(
Just 'cos your Alfa won't do 45, there's no need to deny the rest of us that pleasure. Miserable git. ;) ;D ;D
My alfa will do 145, as long as I dont mind stopping for fuel every ten minutes :(
Not in a 30 limit I hope :o ::)
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I agree with all the laws regarding speeding, THERE IS NO NEED FOR IT.
:y :y :y
Not sure I agree 100%. There are some really daft speed limits in place. One near me is a 30 and yet there's nothing on either side of the road except grass, the house are set well back and the footpath is about 50 feet from the road. Try doing 30 and you just cause a huge tailback. Friend of mine got done twice in one day by a hidden Talivan. :(
And don't tell me you've NEVER done over 70 on a motorway. :-X
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I agree with all the laws regarding speeding, THERE IS NO NEED FOR IT.
:y :y :y
Not sure I agree 100%. There are some really daft speed limits in place. One near me is a 30 and yet there's nothing on either side of the road except grass, the house are set well back and the footpath is about 50 feet from the road. Try doing 30 and you just cause a huge tailback. Friend of mine got done twice in one day by a hidden Talivan. :(
And don't tell me you've NEVER done over 70 on a motorway. :-X
I agree 100% in so much that im not 100% sure on these proposals either...
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I agree with all the laws regarding speeding, THERE IS NO NEED FOR IT.
:y :y :y
Not sure I agree 100%. There are some really daft speed limits in place. One near me is a 30 and yet there's nothing on either side of the road except grass, the house are set well back and the footpath is about 50 feet from the road. Try doing 30 and you just cause a huge tailback. Friend of mine got done twice in one day by a hidden Talivan. :(
And don't tell me you've NEVER done over 70 on a motorway. :-X
NEVER, I stick to all speed limits, i have had first hand experiance on what speed does, IT KILLS.
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I agree with all the laws regarding speeding, THERE IS NO NEED FOR IT.
:y :y :y
Not sure I agree 100%. There are some really daft speed limits in place. One near me is a 30 and yet there's nothing on either side of the road except grass, the house are set well back and the footpath is about 50 feet from the road. Try doing 30 and you just cause a huge tailback. Friend of mine got done twice in one day by a hidden Talivan. :(
And don't tell me you've NEVER done over 70 on a motorway. :-X
Why do they never place these things by schools / hospitals where safety IS a concern. Reason? Because there is no money in it.
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I agree with all the laws regarding speeding, THERE IS NO NEED FOR IT.
:y :y :y
Not sure I agree 100%. There are some really daft speed limits in place. One near me is a 30 and yet there's nothing on either side of the road except grass, the house are set well back and the footpath is about 50 feet from the road. Try doing 30 and you just cause a huge tailback. Friend of mine got done twice in one day by a hidden Talivan. :(
And don't tell me you've NEVER done over 70 on a motorway. :-X
Why do they never place these things by schools / hospitals where safety IS a concern. Reason? Because there is no money in it.
I agree, ALL schools should have loads of these speed ramps on the road, as many as possible to slow down the total idiots that insist on speeding outside these establishments.
It is a distressing and gut wrenching thing to go through when a loved one is harmed due to a speeding idiot outside a school, it is something that needs addressing NOW not when the goverment decide its time to do.
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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A lad that used to work for me got done twice, buy the same camera, two days on the trot on the Thelwall Viaduct. Plonka. It's not like the cameras had only just been put up...they had been there for nearly 2 years and he passed them every day.
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I agree with all the laws regarding speeding, THERE IS NO NEED FOR IT.
:y :y :y
Not sure I agree 100%. There are some really daft speed limits in place. One near me is a 30 and yet there's nothing on either side of the road except grass, the house are set well back and the footpath is about 50 feet from the road. Try doing 30 and you just cause a huge tailback. Friend of mine got done twice in one day by a hidden Talivan. :(
And don't tell me you've NEVER done over 70 on a motorway. :-X
NEVER, I stick to all speed limits, i have had first hand experiance on what speed does, IT KILLS.
I think I'm going to duck out of the rest of this conversation. :-[
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I agree with all the laws regarding speeding, THERE IS NO NEED FOR IT.
:y :y :y
Not sure I agree 100%. There are some really daft speed limits in place. One near me is a 30 and yet there's nothing on either side of the road except grass, the house are set well back and the footpath is about 50 feet from the road. Try doing 30 and you just cause a huge tailback. Friend of mine got done twice in one day by a hidden Talivan. :(
And don't tell me you've NEVER done over 70 on a motorway. :-X
Why do they never place these things by schools / hospitals where safety IS a concern. Reason? Because there is no money in it.
I agree, ALL schools should have loads of these speed ramps on the road, as many as possible to slow down the total idiots that insist on speeding outside these establishments.
It is a distressing and gut wrenching thing to go through when a loved one is harmed due to a speeding idiot outside a school, it is something that needs addressing NOW not when the goverment decide its time to do.
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
You try and get something done about it. You'll get nowhere.
When I lived in Birmngham, my kids went to school right opposite Sparkhill Police Station. I complained about the speeding and bad parking, but everytime I got the same response..."we'll send a traffic warden over in a bit". By the time they got there, the school had closed up and everyone had gone. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr (http://www.digitpress.com/forum/images/smilies/js_angry.gif) TURDS!!!!
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The problem here isn't the speed limits but the dogged resolve to "get" people for speeding. This to me seems to be fundamental to the British psyche. Make some rules, catch people breaking them and punish them. If they keep doing it punish them more oh and make some more rules. Nobody asks why people speed? Is it 'cos they are stressed up? Is it because there just isn't enough time to do everything in a day because the roads are so congested and poorly designed? Is it because employers don't offer enough flexi working? Is it because people have to/choose to work so far from home?
It will only stop when we all drive on tractor beams at set (close) intervals or the manufactures start producing cars that physically cannot exceed the speed limits in force! Omega drivers would then just have to tootle along behind .
Regarding the speed limits themselves. My view has been for some years that Motorways should be 80, arterial roads in and out of conurbations 40 or 50 but with better fencing/crossings. All other urban roads 20.
varche
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I read one (government I think) report suggesting that the motorway speed limit could be 100, and people would carry on driving at the speeds they do today.
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I read one (government I think) report suggesting that the motorway speed limit could be 100, and people would carry on driving at the speeds they do today.
must admit, at one point, I did hit 110 on the way to Liverpool yeaterday :-[
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We should round them up...[size=16]put them in a field[/size]......[size=24]AND BOMB THE B'STARDS!!!!!!![/size]
(Kenny Everett)
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NEVER, I stick to all speed limits, i have had first hand experiance on what speed does, IT KILLS.
No it doesn’t! Stopping does! (No seriously) when speed limits were decided cars ran drum brakes and road surfaces were rubbish. To stop a car from 70 quickly wasn’t an easy job, now even the most incompetent driver in a semi modern car can stop allot quicker than what the Highway Code says.
tbh i don’t really bother with speed limit's, i drive within my limit, which unlike a sign, change very regularly depending on traffic, conditions etc. im not saying i drive everywhere at full throttle, but there’s a 2 mile dual carriage way near my house which goes between 2 industrial estates, its signposted as a 30mph, now fair enough during the day it is quite busy with truck etc, but after business hours its dead! There’s a road at either side with no access to the main road and a grass verge in-between so if anything was coming towards the road for either direction you could see it with enough time to take action. On that road you can very safely drive at 60mph with no problem. Now on the same par, if im driving past a school ill sit at 20mph or lower.
If the government want more people to pay attention to speed limits, they need to make them more realistic!
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Speed isn't dangerous...inappropriate speed is. Doing 70mph on the motorway is perfectly safe in general, but doing 70mph down by your local chippy…that’s inappropriate and dangerous.
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now my tuppence worth............................
speed does kill yes, nearly a year ago on the ring road at horsforth and rodley leeds i was going to my parents house when a biker decided that he was going to do over 100mph with no lights on on the wrong side of the road. when he was at the side of my car he was skidding doing 100mph at the side of my car. i looked in my mirror and he ploughed into the back of a police boss's car that was being driven by a recovery guy. now i'm also a biker so i handbraked my car in the middle of the car and ran up to help.
i was the second person on site to help. the guys helmet had disintegrated and he was wrapped around a road sign. me and the paramedic tried giving cpr but to no avail. the guy died at te side of the road. all i coould see for months when i closed my eyes was the gash in the guys head!!!!!!!! i had to go stop traffic at the top of the road to help preserve the scene!!!!! now i have first had experience that speed kills!!!!
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now my tuppence worth............................
speed does kill yes, nearly a year ago on the ring road at horsforth and rodley leeds i was going to my parents house when a biker decided that he was going to do over 100mph with no lights on on the wrong side of the road. when he was at the side of my car he was skidding doing 100mph at the side of my car. i looked in my mirror and he ploughed into the back of a police boss's car that was being driven by a recovery guy. now i'm also a biker so i handbraked my car in the middle of the car and ran up to help.
i was the second person on site to help. the guys helmet had disintegrated and he was wrapped around a road sign. me and the paramedic tried giving cpr but to no avail. the guy died at te side of the road. all i coould see for months when i closed my eyes was the gash in the guys head!!!!!!!! i had to go stop traffic at the top of the road to help preserve the scene!!!!! now i have first had experience that speed kills!!!!
I know what i am talking about also as my experience was a loved one, speed does kill when it is being done in the wrong place, no one will tell me different. Speed limits are there for a reason, and people who do what they want need to think, what would they go through if one of their loved ones were to be killed by idiots. it would deffinatley change their outlook.
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Just heard it on my wind-up radio. Doing 45 or over in a 30 limit, 6 points and £100 fine.
Quite right!
I'd shoot the b*stards. >:(
Are you serious? Or is it a wind up? ;D ;D ;D ;D
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does this new rule apply to chief constables as well? :-?
never did hear what happened in that case.
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does this new rule apply to chief constables as well? :-?
never did hear what happened in that case.
Yeh, what did happen to him.
Promotion most likely
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unlike your good self apparently - what happened? ::)
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with no lights on on the wrong side of the road.
This is just dangerous driving
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Personally I think more about the standard of driving more than number on stick obediance.
I wind some people up by keeong my speed low in built up areas, then booting when safe.
When you see fast roads deliberately speed limited when there are no juctions and good sightlines I can see no reason to obey unrealistic limits.
As to dropping towns to 20, well most are fine at 30 and if you start micro managing too much people will just get peed off.
People treat limits as targets, this is why I personaly do not like them.
Quite often I will drop to 15 in 30s if that is the safe speed yet according to the safety nazis I am allowed to do 30, my road is not safe over 20 yet it is a 30!!!
Same as my MILs, but I ignore my parents 8mph limit and do 15 as I have always done - even on a pedal bike when small
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You could remove all speed limits from all roads. The people who drive safely now would continue to do so. The idiots would continue to wreak havoc.
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Problem is, speed is easy and cheap to enforce so all traffic enforcement seems to have come down to a numbers game.
I agree that the current speed limits are largely reasonable and there's no need to exceed them, especially in urban areas. However, if other driving skills such as hazard perception continue to be neglected by the gross simplification that is slogans such as "speed kills" speed limits will have to be set on the assumption that hazards are always there - because the average driver won't be spotting hazards.
That will criminalise drivers who want to "press on" a little when conditions make it safe to do so. It's starting to happen now. Rural roads around me that used to be national speed limit are dropping to 50 or 40 simply because there are a few bends (which can be taken safely at the national speed limit), double white lines are appearing where overtaking used to be perfectly safe if undertaken carefully and so on.
Kevin
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Problem is, speed is easy and cheap to enforce so all traffic enforcement seems to have come down to a numbers game.
I agree that the current speed limits are largely reasonable and there's no need to exceed them, especially in urban areas. However, if other driving skills such as hazard perception continue to be neglected by the gross simplification that is slogans such as "speed kills" speed limits will have to be set on the assumption that hazards are always there - because the average driver won't be spotting hazards.
That will criminalise drivers who want to "press on" a little when conditions make it safe to do so. It's starting to happen now. Rural roads around me that used to be national speed limit are dropping to 50 or 40 simply because there are a few bends (which can be taken safely at the national speed limit), double white lines are appearing where overtaking used to be perfectly safe if undertaken carefully and so on.
Kevin
You're not allowed to undertake :P
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You're not allowed to undertake
Have I been looking at the wrong soilid white line again? ::)
Oh, well. That'll keep my wheel arches a little less muddy!
.. and SWMBO a little less scared. ;D
Kevin
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these proposals all because No 10 says that too many people are being killed or seriously on our roads each year, surely education for pedestrians & drivers is the way foward. I have covered many fatal RTC's & in the Met area all accidents involving pedetrians & cars 80% of the time peds were to blame. Seems a knee jerk reaction by government.
Think this proposal needs more thought
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That will criminalise drivers who want to "press on" a little when conditions make it safe to do so. It's starting to happen now. Rural roads around me that used to be national speed limit are dropping to 50 or 40 simply because there are a few bends (which can be taken safely at the national speed limit), double white lines are appearing where overtaking used to be perfectly safe if undertaken carefully and so on.
Kevin
THis pees my off something rotten, the A422 WOrcester Stratford road especially.
I alway speed in one 30 limit which is on the edge of a village - no houses no reason for 30 - the sign used to be at the top, so everyone slows down where it used to be.
Safety is NOT an issue, but why brake going down hill to the 60 and why not use the hill to slow to 30.
Oh and the Police do it too - I'll get a picture some time next week!
A38 takes the prize for silly limits!
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these proposals all because No 10 says that too many people are being killed or seriously on our roads each year, surely education for pedestrians & drivers is the way foward. I have covered many fatal RTC's & in the Met area all accidents involving pedetrians & cars 80% of the time peds were to blame. Seems a knee jerk reaction by government.
Think this proposal needs more thought
Didn't they used to be RTA's?
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these proposals all because No 10 says that too many people are being killed or seriously on our roads each year, surely education for pedestrians & drivers is the way foward. I have covered many fatal RTC's & in the Met area all accidents involving pedetrians & cars 80% of the time peds were to blame. Seems a knee jerk reaction by government.
Think this proposal needs more thought
Didn't they used to be RTA's?
Yes, but Political Correctness gets everywhere.....
Not all crashes are accidents.... :-X
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these proposals all because No 10 says that too many people are being killed or seriously on our roads each year, surely education for pedestrians & drivers is the way foward. I have covered many fatal RTC's & in the Met area all accidents involving pedetrians & cars 80% of the time peds were to blame. Seems a knee jerk reaction by government.
Think this proposal needs more thought
Drunk pedestrians - thay are dangerous.
I see shocking driving everyday and everyone wonders why it happens to me - perhaps it is because I notice.
On the way to work today everyone was driving up each others bums, I kept back - guess who passed everyone - safely!
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Road Traffic Accidents are now known as Road Traffic Collisions, down South
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these proposals all because No 10 says that too many people are being killed or seriously on our roads each year, surely education for pedestrians & drivers is the way foward. I have covered many fatal RTC's & in the Met area all accidents involving pedetrians & cars 80% of the time peds were to blame. Seems a knee jerk reaction by government.
Think this proposal needs more thought
Drunk pedestrians - thay are dangerous.
I see shocking driving everyday and everyone wonders why it happens to me - perhaps it is because I notice.
On the way to work today everyone was driving up each others bums, I kept back - guess who passed everyone - safely!
I see this paticular piece of idiocy every day on the motorway. They get right up a trucks ar*e and pull out suddenly, instead of hanging back and building up speed first.
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Road Traffic Accidents are now known as Road Traffic Collisions, down South
As Broocie says, everywhere.
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i heard about this yesterday from a friend.....in some ways its a good idea in other the speed limits need to be reviewed.
70 on a motorway (under normal conditions) is too slow, we are abot the slowets in Europe, many of then have limits of 120 or 130 kph 75/80 mph, and on the whole that is the speed at which people travel on the motorways when conditions allow.
i could get shot for this but i believe there should be more variable speed sections of the motoway, when it is busy is does the thinking for those people who seem to be incapible of judging for themselves.
more emphasis should be placed on education not punishment, by that i mean if you arte caught speeding them you should be made to attend some sort of refresher training, implementing such an idea would be something that our government aren't intellegent enough to do and they wold waste millions of pounds worth of tax payers money as well.
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i heard about this yesterday from a friend.....in some ways its a good idea in other the speed limits need to be reviewed.
70 on a motorway (under normal conditions) is too slow, we are abot the slowets in Europe, many of then have limits of 120 or 130 kph 75/80 mph, and on the whole that is the speed at which people travel on the motorways when conditions allow.
i could get shot for this but i believe there should be more variable speed sections of the motoway, when it is busy is does the thinking for those people who seem to be incapible of judging for themselves.
more emphasis should be placed on education not punishment, by that i mean if you arte caught speeding them you should be made to attend some sort of refresher training, implementing such an idea would be something that our government aren't intellegent enough to do and they wold waste millions of pounds worth of tax payers money as well.
Dead right, Staffs Police had used to do it in Wolverhampto in 1989-90, they'd pull folks over for speeding and give them the choice to sit through a 30 min vid, by all accounts a graphic vid of RTC's... Shock tactics.... I was aware that this was happening, that was enough to slow me down.... However speed is OK in the right place, NEVER in residential areas...
DC