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Title: tow bar fitting, an experienced eye please.
Post by: feeutfo on 03 January 2009, 21:29:19
fitting tow bar to my 3.2 saloon tomorrow, just wanted to run it past you guys and girls, before i start drilling holes in the wrong place or something daft.

I am presuming, from a brief offering up today that the long metal plate goes in the boot and involves drilling through the pre marked dimples on the floor with a 8/10 mill drill???

And that i will have to remove the black plastic cover inside on the boot lip/shuts although i can see a break out panel so maybe not....?  and remove/ possibly trim the rear bumper to finish the job???

any advice gratefully received....PS i have given little thought to the electrics at this stage.

oh and its for a bike trailer before i am wrongly accused of being a pikey  ;D

forgot the pic
(http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p326/chrisgixer/03012009390.jpg)
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Post by: alexandjen on 03 January 2009, 21:54:12
It makes the job easier if you remove the plastic trim panel, I didn't have to remove or cut the bumper when I fitted mine.

You will need to remove some of the sound deadening material from the boot floor to get access to the dimples, clear an area large enough to take the washers, I've since learnt that heating it with a hot air gun makes it a lot easier to remove.

Yours looks like a different design to mine, have you got any tubular spacers to drop through the drill holes in the boot floor to bridge the sub frame?

What make is the towbar?
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Post by: Entwood on 03 January 2009, 21:58:38
Also looks very different to mine ... but mine is not a detachable hitch, and is on a facelift.

I can take some photo's tomorrow if you wish ???
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Post by: alexandjen on 03 January 2009, 22:01:35
Yeh mine's also fixed and on a facelift, while you've got the trim panel off you may as well wire it up as the connector sits behind the panel......well it does on a facelift anyway :-/
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Post by: feeutfo on 03 January 2009, 22:19:56
it is a gm item. the spacers are shown, ive layed them on the plate pointing at the holes which is not very clear in the pic.

I will go take some clearer stills.

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Post by: alexandjen on 03 January 2009, 22:24:08
Yes can see them now :y
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Post by: feeutfo on 03 January 2009, 22:34:00
hows this

(http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p326/chrisgixer/03012009391.jpg)

(http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p326/chrisgixer/03012009393.jpg)

(http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p326/chrisgixer/03012009396.jpg)
Title: Re: tow bar fitting, an experienced eye please.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 03 January 2009, 23:09:07
The plate on the boot floor will give you hassles if you want to fit a LPG cylinder tank in the boot - but not a spare wheel one. :y

SImilar to the one I used to have. Fitting is pretty straightforward and it sounds like you're on the right track. The spacers go inside the crossmember by the diff, from underneath, and the large penny washers go on the underside to cover the holes they went in.

Just 9 holes to drill in the boot floor as already marked.

Heat the sound deadening tar with a hot air paint stripper and then use a decorator's trowl to remove the bits under the plate. Comes off like butter when hot. Impossible when cold. ::)

Kevin


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Post by: Andy B on 04 January 2009, 00:30:27
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SImilar to the one I used to have.  .....

[size=8]It's still in the box standing up in the corner of my garage[/size] :-[  :-[  :-[
Title: Re: tow bar fitting, an experienced eye please.
Post by: feeutfo on 04 January 2009, 00:32:19
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The plate on the boot floor will give you hassles if you want to fit a LPG cylinder tank in the boot - but not a spare wheel one. :y

SImilar to the one I used to have. Fitting is pretty straightforward and it sounds like you're on the right track. The spacers go inside the crossmember by the diff, from underneath, and the large penny washers go on the underside to cover the holes they went in.

Just 9 holes to drill in the boot floor as already marked.

Heat the sound deadening tar with a hot air paint stripper and then use a decorator's trowl to remove the bits under the plate. Comes off like butter when hot. Impossible when cold. ::)

Kevin


thanks Kevin, i presume remove all the foam from the whole area of the plate? to get it to sit snug to the floor, imagine it may bend if tightened down and just the corners/areas around the holes are
cleared. Also i guess some sort of rust prevention around the bare metal when the holes are drilled? i have a tin of under body spray...?


I hate drilling holes in cars, but better get used to though, tow bar as this is the start of the lpg install. i itend to use a double socket on the bar and use one for the lpg filler.
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Post by: Andy B on 04 January 2009, 00:36:03
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...... i itend to use a double socket on the bar and use one for the lpg filler.

How about using the plastic trim at the bottom of the rear wing like :-
(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc265/tony2jackson/PC090018.jpg)
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Post by: feeutfo on 04 January 2009, 00:53:49
yeah maybe,(i thought you ment the rear wing on the boot lid for a minute, wtf.???) will see how it turns out when fitted it may be too low and inaccessable  to put the filler on the tow bar.

Battle is a a fluid situation, constantly changeing tac tics will be required to win the war. That and a big f off Hammer...  ;D ;)
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Post by: Miggy24 on 04 January 2009, 13:40:01
I`ll be fitting a tow bar to my estate soon are there markings in the boot floor to where the holes will be drilled too
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Post by: Kevin Wood on 04 January 2009, 14:09:44
I think I removed all of the tar under the whole plate. The mountings are actually proud of the bottom of the plate so you might get away with just removing it around the mountings. The important thing is that the tar is not supporting the plate anywhere because, given time, it will flatten and the assembly could become loose.

I tidied up all holes with a bit of wet and dry, then hammerited them and applied some waxoyl once that had dried.

Kevin
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Post by: feeutfo on 04 January 2009, 19:08:50
thanks guys, all done bar the electrics, i guess i can get a connector to match the cars plug from the dealer? And i will have to take the bumper off again as the reverseing sensors are on a constant tone, they where a pain to dis/re connect from the bumper as the wires are a bit too short, i probably did not push a plug back on properly.

I had to remove all the tarmac from the boot floor, the plate would not sit low enough to line up with the 3 holes below the boot lock on the vertical face otherwise. I put a fan heater face down with an inch gap from the floor, and it fairly zipped straight off, so not too bad. Although the fan cut out once so had to raise it a fraction more to let it "breath" a bit better.

Yes Devonboy the holes where pre marked, but i would suggest, on a saloon at least, drilling the 3 under the boot lock on the upright face, bolt it up, and then using the plate as a template or drill directly through the holes in the plate and ignore the pre marked dimples to a degree as they didnt line up. I had to re drill 5 mill or so off centre, no biggy, just would have saved some time, and some ovalised holes.

Had to cut the bumper round the swan neck which made me cringe, and ill have to trim it more when i get the plugs mounted i suspect.

I think the tow bar is going to be too low to mount the lpg filler, it really is tucked up out the way, which is good, as with the swan neck removed its hard to spot the tow bar gubbins at all. Guess ill be needing a hole cutter then.
Thanks for replys gents.

Chris.  :-)
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Post by: feeutfo on 04 January 2009, 23:31:29
ps Devonboy, i cant see that this towbar will fit an estate, as the spare wheel well is in the floor, i beleive, and will be blocked by the floor plate of the this type of tow bar, but i presume any relevant holes will be marked out in a similar fashion. Just a thought. :-)
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Post by: ffcgary1 on 05 January 2009, 00:34:23
The Estate has the dimples in the floor of the load area as well, just lift the pieces of floor trim either side of the spare wheel well and you will see the dimples you need to drill. You will need a cone cutter and will need to go up to 22mm as far as i can remember, but please check before you drill.
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Post by: Turk on 05 January 2009, 02:05:44
Sorry, no input on the tow-bar query.
Just wanted to mention that I hope the bike security chain is thru the REAR wheel and thru any swing arm brace or the drive chain, brake pipes etc and ground locked to the floor so "they who should have their hands chopped off" will have to take as much time as possible in their scummy antics.
Every week I supply copy invoices to customers claiming for the bike parts and accessories fitted to their stolen bikes. Several still have the front wheel safely bolted to their garage floor.

At the end of the day, if the lowlifes want it, they will have it. No matter what we have installed.  All we can do is make it as time consuming as possible. Thru the rear wheel makes it a much longer job and less chance of a "quick in and out" theft. They're lowlife cowards and don't like any kind of hard work.  :y    
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Post by: feeutfo on 05 January 2009, 03:41:51
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Sorry, no input on the tow-bar query.
Just wanted to mention that I hope the bike security chain is thru the REAR wheel and thru any swing arm brace or the drive chain, brake pipes etc and ground locked to the floor so "they who should have their hands chopped off" will have to take as much time as possible in their scummy antics.
Every week I supply copy invoices to customers claiming for the bike parts and accessories fitted to their stolen bikes. Several still have the front wheel safely bolted to their garage floor.

At the end of the day, if the lowlifes want it, they will have it. No matter what we have installed.  All we can do is make it as time consuming as possible. Thru the rear wheel makes it a much longer job and less chance of a "quick in and out" theft. They're lowlife cowards and don't like any kind of hard work.  :y    
Good point mate, ta. Thats the front, more security on the rear, as you describe. Plus an Omega bumper touching the Garage door. Plus they wont want it anyway as it a track bike, no road gubbins on it, too much agro for them to shift i would think?
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Post by: Miggy24 on 05 January 2009, 07:49:11
Hi chris thanks for that.Im buying one in the next few days off a member on here and i know the estates are deff just asking if the estates had the dimples like the saloon :y
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Post by: Entwood on 05 January 2009, 18:58:52
Devonboy .. please check your avatar .. its MASSIVE  !!

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