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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Christian on 02 January 2009, 10:20:43
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About me mig 3.0 mv6 , just phoned the Dealership who have done all the service work, the car as now done 65000 miles, back in 2003 at 39000 miles the Timing belt was done, i know this was 5 years ago but do you thing ile be safe to odrive the car for a couple of months before the belts done or should i do this ASAP?
How likely is this to snap or should i get it done.
Reason im asking is there could be a possible job coming up for me which requires me paying out 500 quid out of my old one to transfer licenses and im thinking that i only cover 2-3 miles a day whilst im at work so could this wait?
Bit of a ramble but im unsure what to do? :)
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Vauxhalls own advice is the cambelt MUST be done every 4 years or 40k without fail
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The recommended change interval is 40k miles or 4 years, whichever comes first. As its over 5 years since last changed, the general concensus on here is that you are on borrowed time....
Was it just the belt that was changed last time or were the tensioners done as well? Needs done as a kit, not just the belt... :y
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whats £150 quid for the full cambelt kit, compared to a replacement engine? ;)
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Well it is certainly considered by those in the know on this Forum that the belt should be changed before 40k miles, or four years which ever comes sooner.
Time wise you are obviously over this time, but mileage wise some way below. It is a risk not to replace it asap as you know you will lose the engine if it goes!! :'( :'( It can only be your choice as to whether or not you leave it for a few more weeks, and that could be fine, but you know about sods law, and cambelts, or tensioners, have been known to go at any time. ::) ::)
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Looks liek belt will have to be done then and if i do get new job ile have to sort it from there!
Cheers
BUT on a quick note i know myself the belt is due, but why do Vauxhall keep insisting 80k on my engine, the service advisor said it twice, you would think they know there own product!
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BUT on a quick note i know myself the belt is due, but why do Vauxhall keep insisting 80k on my engine, the service advisor said it twice, you would think they know there own product!
4r$e & elbow springs to mind. ;D ;D :y
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Looks liek belt will have to be done then and if i do get new job ile have to sort it from there!
Cheers
BUT on a quick note i know myself the belt is due, but why do Vauxhall keep insisting 80k on my engine, the service advisor said it twice, you would think they know there own product!
it was once 80k/8yrs, but was halved due to eccessive failures in that time - mostly it would appear from tensioner failure rather than belt (hence why you need to change cambelt kit, not just belt)
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Just don't risk it!!!!!!!!!!!! :y
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Yea i have done a few but many moons ago, although my Mate still works at the dealership i worked at, hes been there 20 years, hes doing it all in at 200 quid inc kit!
So in the next couple of weeks itl be done me thinks. :)
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Yea i have done a few but many moons ago, although my Mate still works at the dealership i worked at, hes been there 20 years, hes doing it all in at 200 quid inc kit!
So in the next couple of weeks itl be done me thinks. :)
does that inc water pump, worth doing at same time...
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Ile get one off ebay!
And get him to pop one on!
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Looks liek belt will have to be done then and if i do get new job ile have to sort it from there!
Cheers
BUT on a quick note i know myself the belt is due, but why do Vauxhall keep insisting 80k on my engine, the service advisor said it twice, you would think they know there own product!
it was once 80k/8yrs, but was halved due to eccessive failures in that time - mostly it would appear from tensioner failure rather than belt (hence why you need to change cambelt kit, not just belt)
That does seem to be the case changed my 4 pot last year after realising i had owned it nearly 6yrs and had the belt changed just after buying it...so 5yrs+ (only put 30k on it :y) it was on & after examining it, it really looked in good shape I must say, so the belts do last probably better than you think its the pulley bits that must fail !
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Ile get one off ebay!
And get him to pop one on!
Better off getting one from VX mate. Think thats what im gonna do. :y
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He should be able to get you a Vaux pump for sub £30 inc so I would go for that. 200 quid is a good deal if he is a good mech. I would also consider putting a new aux belt on while you are at it .
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Much cheaper than VX, cost me £550 for belt kit and water pump, and another £150 for the thernostat and temperature senders, and I supplied the thermostat, they wanted £800 in total, but they took £700 in the end :o
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Much cheaper than VX, cost me £550 for belt kit and water pump, and another £150 for the thernostat and temperature senders, and I supplied the thermostat, they wanted £800 in total, but they took £700 in the end :o
That is exactly what a main Vx dealer in Dover quoted me for the same work! :o :o No way for me; I prefer to get my hands dirty and break my nails than pay that, but I'm lucky, I can! ::) ::) ;)
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I was in similar dilema when i got mine last year....only 20k done since last belt change but 5 years ago...got dvd and did it myself and was i glad...the upper tensioner was going hence the belt was slack and had slipped one tooth on cam 1....am so glad i did it...peace of mind now and she runs better ;D
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I'm on my 2nd V6 - I had a written exchange with Vx when the 1st one (1999) approached 40k (like.... it's first major service!). They assured me the V6 was Ok for 80k as per the manual and they spurned my allegation of a design fault. Got it in writing again for the 2nd (2003) though still 80k in the manual.
Anyway - I bottled it with both and had them done at 60k. ::)
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Im getting worried now.....
Cant afford it untill 2-3 weeks as just bought it :-[
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It comes down to do i take the risk and hope for the best...until i can replace it. With me i did around 1000 miles before i got belt kit , dvd and hired locking tools because i had to use car...in hind sight i wouldn't have driven it with the belt loose as it was...yours might be ok and you may have no probs for the next few weeks....you just don't know and thats what does your head in. its one of the joys of owning a v6 er !!
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Im getting worried now.....
Cant afford it untill 2-3 weeks as just bought it :-[
First off, change it asap if not before.
Do it yourself, if you can borrow a locking kit and get a gates or contitech belt and tensioner kit for £70 off off the net, then job done, if money is tight maybe leave the water pump. But what ever, do it now. Or you may well end up with a far bigger bill and a load more agro. Personally, due to experience, i would not rush to give a vauxhall mech my cash, mate or no mate, sorry just wouldnt. Hth
Ps if you buy off the net make sure you get the right part numbers.
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Im getting worried now.....
Cant afford it untill 2-3 weeks as just bought it................
First off, change it asap if not before.
Are we not getting a little paranoid here?
The tensioners do not go kaput just because they reach 40,001 miles.
Vx went supersafe on ALL their cars with a blanket 40k recommendation and the dealers love them for it. I was told a good mechanic can hear the rattling from them and/or the water pump. So, take it easy, drive smoothly and listen to the engine with the bonnet up (preferably whilst not driving - keep safe out there).
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Im getting worried now.....
Cant afford it untill 2-3 weeks as just bought it................
First off, change it asap if not before.
Are we not getting a little paranoid here?
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No! Its a year over!
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Im getting worried now.....
Cant afford it untill 2-3 weeks as just bought it :-[
First off, change it asap if not before.
Do it yourself, if you can borrow a locking kit and get a gates or contitech belt and tensioner kit for £70 off off the net, then job done, if money is tight maybe leave the water pump. But what ever, do it now. Or you may well end up with a far bigger bill and a load more agro. Personally, due to experience, i would not rush to give a vauxhall mech my cash, mate or no mate, sorry just wouldnt. Hth
Ps if you buy off the net make sure you get the right part numbers.
I hear you mate, but i have a hell of a lot of trust to this guy , he's the Mastertech there and with no offence i know this guy by the face and i have not evan met any of you :)
Phil my mate has worked at Vauxhall for over 20 years, infact i was his Apprentice, he also ownes an Omega Mv6 and i trust this guy 100 percent.
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Lent the money off my dad until i get paid, Belt being done Tomo !
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Just an update, the Miggy is in for its belt, picking it up tomo night as work is funny hours!
Yay i can give it a bit on the way back now :D