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Title: Possibly new CDX owner - Inspection tips
Post by: wayneywoo on 11 November 2007, 19:26:56
Hello all, I'm hopefully gona be a new member very soonwithin the next couple of weeks.  I've been offered a CDX V reg for around 2k.  That's all I know until tomorrow when I go and have a good look at the car.

My question is can anyone give me a few tips as to what I should expect to pay for a V (not sure if this wil be '99 or '00) in immaculate condition by the quick look I gave it aqnd secondly is there anything in particular I should look for on the test drive?

Thanks and hopefully, like I say, I'll be a regular very soon.

Kind regards
Wayne
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Title: Re: Possibly new CDX owner - Inspection tips
Post by: MikeDundee on 11 November 2007, 19:28:32
Welcome to the Forum Wayne :y
Title: Re: Possibly new CDX owner - Inspection tips
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 11 November 2007, 19:30:21
Wayne - make sure it's mint, for that money... with a recent cambelt KIT change... and make sure there are no leaking cam cover gaskets

Make sure gearchange and selection is smooth, regardless of manual or auto

If manual make sure clutch uptake is OK with no judder

Make sure it pulls and brakes in a straight line, and check for uneven tyre wear.
Title: Re: Possibly new CDX owner - Inspection tips
Post by: hotel21 on 11 November 2007, 19:31:12
Howdoo Wayne, welcome to the site.  I have moved this to gen chat as it will get a better cross section of replies from more members as not evryone looks in the 'newby' bit, unfortunately....

Main thing, before anyone else, is cambelt and tensioer history,  irrespective of what VX or anyone else says, its 40k miles or 4 years, no debate in it.  Ensure you have a receipt confirming job done, otherwise budget for doing it as part of the deal or, better, get a cash discount on the purchase and use the available help here to get it done cheaper and save a few squids!!

Lots of other things to look for, will leave it for others to fill the blanks or for yourself to explore the loads of info available here yourself....

enjoy!   :y
Title: Re: Possibly new CDX owner - Inspection tips
Post by: Golfbuddy on 11 November 2007, 19:34:48
Looks like you're already a member Wayne. Just need the car now.  :y

£2k sounds fairly reasonable to me, but will depend on the condition, mileage, spec etc. When you get more info post here and others will be only to glad to give their opinion. Not that some of them are worth having. There's even one old bloke on here who drives an Alfa Romeo and he will give his opinion on anything.  ;D
Title: Re: Possibly new CDX owner - Inspection tips
Post by: Golfbuddy on 11 November 2007, 19:36:03
Oh yeah, and welcome to the forum.  :)
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Post by: Taxi_Driver on 11 November 2007, 19:37:16
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Howdoo Wayne, welcome to the site.  I have moved this to gen chat as it will get a better cross section of replies from more members as not evryone looks in the 'newby' bit, unfortunately....

Main thing, before anyone else, is cambelt and tensioer history,  irrespective of what VX or anyone else says, its 40k miles or 4 years, no debate in it.  Ensure you have a receipt confirming job done, otherwise budget for doing it as part of the deal or, better, get a cash discount on the purchase and use the available help here to get it done cheaper and save a few squids!!

Lots of other things to look for, will leave it for others to fill the blanks or for yourself to explore the loads of info available here yourself....

enjoy!   :y

Guilty as charged M'Lord  :-[

check as James and hotel21 says  :y

I'll add....rust is a problem sometimes....so check doors and C pillar....(open rear doors and scan for rust at the bottom)  :y
Title: Re: Possibly new CDX owner - Inspection tips
Post by: wayneywoo on 11 November 2007, 19:39:17
Thanks for the quick replies guys!

The car is going for an MOT tomorrow morning.   I'm then off to see it.

Can someone give me a "not looking through rose tinted glasses" opinion on the Omega.  I love big four door saloons, currently driving a Rover 800.  I get the feeling that the car is better built and the CDX has enough toys to satisfy me?

Wayne
Title: Re: Possibly new CDX owner - Inspection tips
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 11 November 2007, 19:40:13
As a rough guide, I paid £1250 for my mint W reg CDX, around 100k miles, with no significant faults. But then I bought it from a member who gave me a great deal.

I'd personally value a V reg with simelar mileage at £1500 to £1800



Title: Re: Possibly new CDX owner - Inspection tips
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 11 November 2007, 19:42:01
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Looks like you're already a member Wayne. Just need the car now.  :y

£2k sounds fairly reasonable to me, but will depend on the condition, mileage, spec etc. When you get more info post here and others will be only to glad to give their opinion. Not that some of them are worth having. There's even one old bloke on here who drives an Alfa Romeo and he will give his opinion on anything.  ;D

He hasnt even been in the Nags Head today....Has he been banned again  :-/ ;D
Title: Re: Possibly new CDX owner - Inspection tips
Post by: STMO123 on 11 November 2007, 19:44:07
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Thanks for the quick replies guys!

The car is going for an MOT tomorrow morning.   I'm then off to see it.

Can someone give me a "not looking through rose tinted glasses" opinion on the Omega.  I love big four door saloons, currently driving a Rover 800.  I get the feeling that the car is better built and the CDX has enough toys to satisfy me?

Wayne

Welcome Wayne. Spend the evening having a read of some of the earlier threads, it will give you a "feel" of the omega.

With the cambelt, make sure it has been done. Ring the garage that did it. Leaving the belt change too long is a sure fire way of killing your new car.
Title: Re: Possibly new CDX owner - Inspection tips
Post by: STMO123 on 11 November 2007, 19:45:24
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Looks like you're already a member Wayne. Just need the car now.  :y

£2k sounds fairly reasonable to me, but will depend on the condition, mileage, spec etc. When you get more info post here and others will be only to glad to give their opinion. Not that some of them are worth having. There's even one old bloke on here who drives an Alfa Romeo and he will give his opinion on anything.  ;D

Shut it, Yokel.
Title: Re: Possibly new CDX owner - Inspection tips
Post by: Entwood on 11 November 2007, 19:47:16
This might help a little ..

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152602457

I'm afraid the "other parts" referred to don't seem to have been written yet .. :)

:)
Title: Re: Possibly new CDX owner - Inspection tips
Post by: Golfbuddy on 11 November 2007, 19:59:04
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Looks like you're already a member Wayne. Just need the car now.  :y

£2k sounds fairly reasonable to me, but will depend on the condition, mileage, spec etc. When you get more info post here and others will be only to glad to give their opinion. Not that some of them are worth having. There's even one old bloke on here who drives an Alfa Romeo and he will give his opinion on anything.  ;D

Shut it, Yokel.

 :-X
Title: Re: Possibly new CDX owner - Inspection tips
Post by: miggy on 11 November 2007, 20:00:57
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Looks like you're already a member Wayne. Just need the car now.  :y

£2k sounds fairly reasonable to me, but will depend on the condition, mileage, spec etc. When you get more info post here and others will be only to glad to give their opinion. Not that some of them are worth having. There's even one old bloke on here who drives an Alfa Romeo and he will give his opinion on anything.  ;D

Shut it, Yokel.


Thats not nice victor ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Possibly new CDX owner - Inspection tips
Post by: TheBoy on 11 November 2007, 20:53:55
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Thanks for the quick replies guys!

The car is going for an MOT tomorrow morning.   I'm then off to see it.

Can someone give me a "not looking through rose tinted glasses" opinion on the Omega.  I love big four door saloons, currently driving a Rover 800.  I get the feeling that the car is better built and the CDX has enough toys to satisfy me?

Wayne
The Omega is a better car than Rover 800.  When I bought mine, it was a toss up between an Omega and a Rover 800 Sterling.  The Omega is better all round - better handling, better engine, better ride, and a CDX is significantly better spec than the Sterling (top of range).  Build quality significantly better as well.

Omega needs 40k/4yr cambelt AND tensioners. Around 100k, play in front wishbone bushes will be past their best (change entire wishbone, cheap from ebay).

Cam cover gasket failure is checked by pulling all plug leads and look for oil in the wells.

Seat heaters are pretty unreliable, esp leather ones.

When checking tyres, look for (common) inside shoulder wear. This needs a full geometry check (and not tracking as seller will try to say).
Title: Re: Possibly new CDX owner - Inspection tips
Post by: smoothomega on 11 November 2007, 21:39:52
Welcome to the forum Wayne  :y
I had a rover sterling, fantastic 2.7 engine but thats where the story ends, drive at the wrong end, poor build quality and the list goes on, the Omega is a fantastic car and if it has been looked after you will be a very happy OOF  member  ;D


Title: Re: Possibly new CDX owner - Inspection tips
Post by: wayneywoo on 12 November 2007, 10:45:47
Well guys, it's a 2.0ltr.  Are they worth having?  I'm stepping down from a 2.7ltr Rover 800 Sterling and so the question is, will the car be good enough for me to swallow the loss of power?

What are the engines like?

Thanks for the info so far guys!
Title: Re: Possibly new CDX owner - Inspection tips
Post by: Kevin Wood on 12 November 2007, 11:04:40
I'd say a 2.0 will be a pretty big step down from the Sterling in terms of performance. Engines seem to be reasonable. Major problems like had gasket failures aren't as unheard-of as they are on the V6 and exhaust manifolds tend to give trouble but other than that they seem OK.

The best balance of performance and fuel economy is reckoned to be the 2.5 / 2.6 v6 though. Go for a manual for the best economy.

Kevin
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Post by: JamesV6CDX on 12 November 2007, 11:59:27
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Go for a manual for the best economy.

Kevin

Agreed - however, if you do only / mostly motorways, I find the auto is better. Seems to rev about 200rpm lower at 70mph, (gear ratios) - makes a big difference over a tankful!
Title: Re: Possibly new CDX owner - Inspection tips
Post by: Kevin Wood on 12 November 2007, 14:47:29
True. Once over about 45-50 MPH the torque converter is locked up so autobox is not so bad.

I was pootling through a section of motorway roadworks with a silly speed limit the other day and tried running for a mile with the cruise set just under the TC lockup (about 44 mph) and another mile just above the lockup speed. Only about 2 MPH between the two speeds, road practically flat in both cases. Almost 10 MPG difference in fuel consumption 27 MPG versus 36 MPG on the MID :o

Kevin
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Post by: Danny on 12 November 2007, 17:21:41
is it prefacelift or facelift?

as well as what everyone else has already said, i think James's price guide is close enough, 15-1800
Title: Re: Possibly new CDX owner - Inspection tips
Post by: wayneywoo on 12 November 2007, 18:13:54
Baron, it's facelift registered Nov 99.

I've offered the guy 1500-1600.  The one thing that might be an issue slowly creeping in is he has to top up the water every now and then, cant remember if he said every couple of weeks or so and only a small amount.  Could this be the water pump as the belt was changed at 40k and the current mileage is now 90k and hasn't been done.

It drove very nicely, no knocks from anywhere, braked hard in a straight line, pulled ok for a 2.0ltr  Maybe the 2.0ltr is a possibility?

There are a few niggling things that need doing.  The glovebox handle has been broken off, the stereo has a dodgy volume/fader control that brings the rear speakers in to life when the knob is fiddled with.
Title: Re: Possibly new CDX owner - Inspection tips
Post by: Danny on 12 November 2007, 18:18:32
was the cambelt done at 80k??

when the belt job is to be done every 40 as mentioned, the water pump is to be done at the 80k cambelt job
Title: Re: Possibly new CDX owner - Inspection tips
Post by: wayneywoo on 12 November 2007, 18:19:39
No, the belt wasnt done at 80k.

Its a CDX (LT).....  What does the LT mean?
Title: Re: Possibly new CDX owner - Inspection tips
Post by: Danny on 12 November 2007, 18:20:09
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No, the belt wasnt done at 80k.

Its a CDX (LT).....  What does the LT mean?

by rights LT is meant to mean Leather Trim

get some extra haggling done, tell him it'll cost you £250 to get the cambelt kit done inc water pump :D
Title: Re: Possibly new CDX owner - Inspection tips
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 12 November 2007, 18:22:54
If you buy it, that car needs a cambelt kit and water pump change before you start using it.
Title: Re: Possibly new CDX owner - Inspection tips
Post by: wayneywoo on 12 November 2007, 18:24:26
Ahh...makes sense!

I told him it'll cost £200 to do the cambelt.  He's got the figure of 2300 from Parkers in his head.  When I offered him 1500-1600, he umm'd and arr'd, said he'd speak to the missus and said probably not.  We shall see.

Oh, he said the Manifold was recently done.  Something about the 2.0ltr being prone to leaking or something?  I take it he meant the exhaust and not inlet!

What are we talking for parts for the cambelt and water pump? and how long a job?  I've done the belt and pump on me Rover 827 so would do myself.
Title: Re: Possibly new CDX owner - Inspection tips
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 12 November 2007, 18:26:20
That's £1000 more than I paid for my CDX which is a year newer, and mine needed nothing doing.

If he won't budge - keep shopping  8-)
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Post by: Elite Pete on 12 November 2007, 18:28:43
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Ahh...makes sense!

I told him it'll cost £200 to do the cambelt.  He's got the figure of 2300 from Parkers in his head.  When I offered him 1500-1600, he umm'd and arr'd, said he'd speak to the missus and said probably not.  We shall see.

Oh, he said the Manifold was recently done.  Something about the 2.0ltr being prone to leaking or something?  I take it he meant the exhaust and not inlet!

What are we talking for parts for the cambelt and water pump? and how long a job?  I've done the belt and pump on me Rover 827 so would do myself.
The manifold on the 4 pots tend to crack.
Title: Re: Possibly new CDX owner - Inspection tips
Post by: Danny on 12 November 2007, 18:29:12
yep, try to get it for 16 or less, they pop up all the time in trader and on ebay, tell him to ignore parkers and look what they sell for, or even tell him to have a look on here!!
Title: Re: Possibly new CDX owner - Inspection tips
Post by: Tony H on 12 November 2007, 18:54:18
Welcome to the forum Wayne. 1999 - 2000 was the changover time from minifacelift to full facelift  the latter having a few subtle inprovements which may affect the price
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Post by: TheBoy on 12 November 2007, 19:10:20
Did they make a CDX 2.0/2.2 petrol?
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Post by: JamesV6CDX on 12 November 2007, 19:25:07
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Did they make a CDX 2.0/2.2 petrol?

Pretty sure yes
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Post by: Tony H on 12 November 2007, 19:26:09
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Did they make a CDX 2.0/2.2 petrol?
A few 2.2's on Autotrader no 2.0 though :-/
Title: Re: Possibly new CDX owner - Inspection tips
Post by: VXL V6 on 12 November 2007, 19:27:17
2.0 on Prefacelift
Title: Re: Possibly new CDX owner - Inspection tips
Post by: edwardmickey on 12 November 2007, 20:33:49
I owned a 2.0 CDX auto on a W plate for about 18 months.

Loads of toys, more than enough to keep me happy.  BUT I hated the sluggish engine.  For me, it was just too slow.  I understand that the 2.2 replacement isn't much quicker off the mark.

That said, the fuel economy weren't too bad.  I'd be surprised if you can't find a CDX spec in a 2.5 for very similar money though.......

Drive both engines and see what you think.

The CDX spec is very very generous!!