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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: ste_bla on 27 January 2009, 21:12:52
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Looking to change engine on car currently have a crashed (my fault body dmg only) 2.0 omega saloon with a good engine and a decent estate with a broken engine (bottom end gone, no power sounds bad and judders 2/3 times a sec) so would like to swap them over.
Dont have the money to buy another car or pay a garage (600+Vat) so want to DIY it but most ever done is change discs/pads.
I have some tools (screw drivers and a 120 piece prof socket set with torx stuff with it) and can rent a crane however no real knowledge how to do it!
So I would like someone to help (or sort of do it really :()
Willing to pay any travel money and pay some money for your time however I'll be honest we are pretty skint.
Located just outside Milton Keynes (Jct 14/13 M1). Any help would be great!!
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If its an auto, I'd recommend taking the gearbox out with the engine - trying to realign the engine onto an autobox attached to the car is a right bastard.
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Not a hard job - this was a straight 6 diesel, which is longer than your engine...
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This was done by LFF64 and myself, and we started around 11ish, and finished around 8ish
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So with your short complement of cylinders it'll be even easier!! ;) ;) ;)
I'd love to help but I'm a bit far away and busy at the moment ::) ::) ::)
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Thats the thing, lots of people have said its not hard, however you guys are competent DIYers however Im not and I might be able to get it out but putting it back together again well I doubt it!
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Just out of interest... What's your work schedule like?
I may be able to come over during the week at some point next month
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I work in Bletchley, but time is definately against me at the moment :(
Basically, take your time, disconnect everything, and lift it out.
In Hayne's famous words, reassembly is the reverse (though far more fiddly!)
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Pretty much get any day off at moment as were quiet after xmas!
TheBoy do you happen to work at Abby call centre as I swear I've seen a silver omega going there a couple of times?
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Wasn't hinting at you Jaime... Just that I'm starting my run of weekend shifts this week so wouldn't be available over the weekend for about 5 weeks :( :( :(
Have you got a garage to work in or is it all too be done on a driveway?
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Driveway unfortunately and both cars are pretty much undrivable :(
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Pretty much get any day off at moment as were quiet after xmas!
TheBoy do you happen to work at Abby call centre as I swear I've seen a silver omega going there a couple of times?
Call centre is at Shenley Wood? Its their datacentre in Bletchley isn't it?
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Pretty much get any day off at moment as were quiet after xmas!
TheBoy do you happen to work at Abby call centre as I swear I've seen a silver omega going there a couple of times?
Call centre is at Shenley Wood? Its their datacentre in Bletchley isn't it?
Could have sworn its the otherway round? AH well anyway theres a silver omega that goes into the abby site opp C&W building
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Pretty much get any day off at moment as were quiet after xmas!
TheBoy do you happen to work at Abby call centre as I swear I've seen a silver omega going there a couple of times?
Call centre is at Shenley Wood? Its their datacentre in Bletchley isn't it?
Could have sworn its the otherway round? AH well anyway theres a silver omega that goes into the abby site opp C&W building
I occasionally go that way home, Silver r reg MV6. Been using blue tractor recently though.
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Fair enough!
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when i took mine out i labelled all the wireing conectors up with masking tape and labelled them with numbers
i took one out just before x.mas a 2.ol taken about 4and a half hours with gearbox left in !
if u have a go take your time !!
:y
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TheBoy just wondering if I could borrow you for 20 mins one night, as just wondering now if the AA man was right about the diagnosis of the broken bottom end. Actually I'll PM you also.
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TheBoy just wondering if I could borrow you for 20 mins one night, as just wondering now if the AA man was right about the diagnosis of the broken bottom end. Actually I'll PM you also.
why do you disbelieve the AA man?
any fault codes?
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TheBoy just wondering if I could borrow you for 20 mins one night, as just wondering now if the AA man was right about the diagnosis of the broken bottom end. Actually I'll PM you also.
why do you disbelieve the AA man?
any fault codes?
He didnt actually properly look and just towed me as "that sounds really bad mate prob bottom end so will tow you" and a neighbour said he doubt it was bottom end as when his went there was nosie first for a long time and it didnt judder this made a really bad sound all the time.
Paper clip shows nowt and no EML on
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I think I was the counter weight for the engine while it was on the hoist :-[ I know a quick way to empty the oil too ::)
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TheBoy just wondering if I could borrow you for 20 mins one night, as just wondering now if the AA man was right about the diagnosis of the broken bottom end. Actually I'll PM you also.
why do you disbelieve the AA man?
any fault codes?
He didnt actually properly look and just towed me as "that sounds really bad mate prob bottom end so will tow you" and a neighbour said he doubt it was bottom end as when his went there was nosie first for a long time and it didnt judder this made a really bad sound all the time.
Paper clip shows nowt and no EML on
oil in water or water in oil?
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I think I was the counter weight for the engine while it was on the hoist :-[ I know a quick way to empty the oil too ::)
very effective - 6.5l in seconds ;D
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if you are taking the lump out of a donor car thats going to be scrapped, instead of unplugging the donor car wiring just cut them leaving plugs & wires behind, that way you can match up like for like on the re-fit :y, another thing is if the AA man said the bottom end had gone did your oil light come on? as a knackered bottom end will normally mean very low or no oil pressure ;)
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If its an auto, I'd recommend taking the gearbox out with the engine - trying to realign the engine onto an autobox attached to the car is a right bastard.
Easier that trying to line up clutch splines in my case -just got the angle right (jacked the box right up to the body and she slipped straight in (ooh err missus!!). Getting the bellhousing bolts lined up was a little trickier, but still only took a few minutes.
ste_bla - sorry, can't offer any physical assistance as a) not local and b) spending pretty much all of February abroad working.. Swapping a 4-pot is pretty easy though - with a couple of helping hands, its a day job i reckon with sufficient tea and bacon butties...(hint..)
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If its an auto, I'd recommend taking the gearbox out with the engine - trying to realign the engine onto an autobox attached to the car is a right bastard.
Easier that trying to line up clutch splines in my case -just got the angle right (jacked the box right up to the body and she slipped straight in (ooh err missus!!). Getting the bellhousing bolts lined up was a little trickier, but still only took a few minutes.
ste_bla - sorry, can't offer any physical assistance as a) not local and b) spending pretty much all of February abroad working.. Swapping a 4-pot is pretty easy though - with a couple of helping hands, its a day job i reckon with sufficient tea and bacon butties...(hint..)
Thats alright Kev (kpassmore1974) is coming down (a fair distance) to help (aka do :() it for us on sat. Bacon Rolls? Bah Takeaway Chinese ;)
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If its an auto, I'd recommend taking the gearbox out with the engine - trying to realign the engine onto an autobox attached to the car is a right bastard.
Easier that trying to line up clutch splines in my case -just got the angle right (jacked the box right up to the body and she slipped straight in (ooh err missus!!). Getting the bellhousing bolts lined up was a little trickier, but still only took a few minutes.
ste_bla - sorry, can't offer any physical assistance as a) not local and b) spending pretty much all of February abroad working.. Swapping a 4-pot is pretty easy though - with a couple of helping hands, its a day job i reckon with sufficient tea and bacon butties...(hint..)
Thats alright Kev (kpassmore1974) is coming down (a fair distance) to help (aka do :() it for us on sat. Bacon Rolls? Bah Takeaway Chinese ;)
Glad you've managed to get someone to help... Wish I could have helped but work gets in the way! ::) ::) ::)