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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Burtle on 03 February 2009, 13:12:29
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Hello everyone,
I have a Reliant Scimitar SE6A and want to replace the boat anchor of an engine (Ford Essex 2.9 V6) with a decent Vauxhall 3L V6.
So what I need is a good 3L engine, and a manual box. Now I realise that the manual 3L is a little rare, but I'm guessing that a 3L auto engine will fit a 2.5L manual box? I'm also guessing the same for the flywheel and clutch arrangement on a 3L (changing from viscous to manual that is).
To get me going I'll also need the ECU and complete wiring loom. Just how transplantable are these engines?
Just to make sure my final drive is correct what is the diff ratio of a V6 Omega?
Finally does anyone have any of these parts and are local to Somerset? Cash waiting!
Cheers
Nath
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a 3.0V6 will fit a 2.5V6 Manual box, but it will shred it in just a few miles.
If your fitting a 3.0V6 you must fit the R28 manual box (as fitted to 3.0/3.2's), look for ex-plod cars being broke for them :y
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You need engine with loom, ECU, ECU loom, immobiliser pickup, immobiliser chip from key.
I suggest break an ex plod 3.0 your self, or contact a skilled breaker from this forum who can dig out all the wiring for you
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You need engine with loom, ECU, ECU loom, immobiliser pickup, immobiliser chip from key.
I suggest break an ex plod 3.0 your self, or contact a skilled breaker from this forum who can dig out all the wiring for you
You won't find one on here ;D
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a 3.0V6 will fit a 2.5V6 Manual box, but it will shred it in just a few miles.
If your fitting a 3.0V6 you must fit the R28 manual box (as fitted to 3.0/3.2's), look for ex-plod cars being broke for them :y
Not true......the R25 will probably last equaly as long as the R28!
We are talking MANUAL boxes, not the autos!
As for transplant, wiring should be pretty easy as the engine loom with ecu etc is a standalone item which only requires a few external connection (vehicle speed, immobiliser plus a few others).
Diff ratio varies but manaual is generaly 3.9:1
The 3.0 is a very compact unit and with better headers can get an easy 240bhp with little work
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Hello everyone,
I have a Reliant Scimitar SE6A and want to replace the boat anchor of an engine (Ford Essex 2.9 V6) with a decent Vauxhall 3L V6.
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I thought the Essex were 2.5 & 3.0 ..... :-/
The 2.9 12 valve is a Cologne isn't it? :-/ and is the engine fitted to the Middlebridge versions. :-/ :-/
(http://i7.ebayimg.com/05/i/001/2e/18/c441_35.JPG) (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Middlebridge-Scimitar_W0QQitemZ230322088074QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item230322088074&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A10%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318)
Anyway, how fast do you want to go in a car that uses an antiquated front suspension with trunions in it ? ;) :y
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i have a 3.0ltr R28 box for sale if your interested, mate so pm me for details.
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Hello everyone,
I have a Reliant Scimitar SE6A and want to replace the boat anchor of an engine (Ford Essex 2.9 V6) with a decent Vauxhall 3L V6.
.......
I thought the Essex were 2.5 & 3.0 ..... :-/
The 2.9 12 valve is a Cologne isn't it? :-/ and is the engine fitted to the Middlebridge versions. :-/ :-/
(http://i7.ebayimg.com/05/i/001/2e/18/c441_35.JPG) (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Middlebridge-Scimitar_W0QQitemZ230322088074QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item230322088074&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A10%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318)
Anyway, how fast do you want to go in a car that uses an antiquated front suspension with trunions in it ? ;) :y
Good point about the Essex, it is indeed 3L, and all iron so very heavy.
How fast do I want to go in a car with trunions? As fast as posible, this car is entered into the Practical Performace Car magazines £999 challenge. I'm off to Mallory park in it at the end of May, it needs to complete a standing quarter mile, autotest and lap of Mallory park. Much fun indeed, Oh and it need to be road legal.
http://www.practicalperformancecar.com/index.asp
Cheers
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i have a 3.0ltr R28 box for sale if your interested, mate so pm me for details.
PM sent, cheers
I'm still on the hunt for an engine too!
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Well I've just been chatting to a mate who is scrapping a Frontera 3.2 limited. Will the 3.2 V6 also fit an R28?
Looking at the spec it's 205bhp and 214lbs/ft
Cheers
Nath
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Got 2 R28 gearboxes here...pretty cheap as they are taking up needed garage space :y
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Got 2 R28 gearboxes here...pretty cheap as they are taking up needed garage space :y
Many thanks, PM sent.
this is what the engine and box is destined for.
(http://www.merlinscc.co.uk/Images/Scimitar/thumbs_DSC02551.JPG)
Cheers
Nath
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That door handle mould must have paid for itself millions of times over. Marinas, Allegros, Range Rovers, etc etc
Nice Scimitar though
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Why don't you try putting a Rover V8 lump with 5 speed box in it as will probably be lighter than both Ford and VXs V6 lumps and has more scope for power improvements :).
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Why don't you try putting a Rover V8 lump with 5 speed box in it as will probably be lighter than both Ford and VXs V6 lumps and has more scope for power improvements :).
Cue Mark!
Actually the Rover V8 is getting a little more difficult to find now.
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Well I've just been chatting to a mate who is scrapping a Frontera 3.2 limited. Will the 3.2 V6 also fit an R28?
Looking at the spec it's 205bhp and 214lbs/ft
Cheers
Nath
I thought the Frontera 3.2 is different from the Omega 3.2.
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I thought the Frontera 3.2 is different from the Omega 3.2.
It may well be, I have no idea what fits what at the moment. Learning fast though.
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Why don't you try putting a Rover V8 lump with 5 speed box in it as will probably be lighter than both Ford and VXs V6 lumps and has more scope for power improvements :).
Cue Mark!
Actually the Rover V8 is getting a little more difficult to find now.
I've got 4 Rover 3.5L V8's sat in my garage at the moment. I also run one in my Landy. Thing is the standard engine in the Scimitar is a V6 and sits behind the front axle and steering rack. V8's are a little longer and so the steering has to be messed with. I'd rather stick with a V6. Also the Omega 3L V6 puts out more power than a standard 3.5L V8.
Nath
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Well I'm off to have another look at the Frontera on Saturday. Is the Frontera 3.2 V6 the same as an Omega 3L 24V V6. More to the point will it fit an R28 box?
Cheers
Nath
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Why don't you try putting a Rover V8 lump with 5 speed box in it as will probably be lighter than both Ford and VXs V6 lumps and has more scope for power improvements :).
Cue Mark!
Actually the Rover V8 is getting a little more difficult to find now.
You know why now Martin! he's got em all stuck in his garage ;D.
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Why don't you try putting a Rover V8 lump with 5 speed box in it as will probably be lighter than both Ford and VXs V6 lumps and has more scope for power improvements :).
Cue Mark!
Actually the Rover V8 is getting a little more difficult to find now.
You know why now Martin! he's got em all stuck in his garage ;D.
Haha, it's not that bad. ::) The engines are fairly easy to get hold of, but for 2wd applications the LT77 gearbox is the hard one to get.
Cheers
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Why don't you try putting a Rover V8 lump with 5 speed box in it as will probably be lighter than both Ford and VXs V6 lumps and has more scope for power improvements :).
Cue Mark!
Actually the Rover V8 is getting a little more difficult to find now.
You know why now Martin! he's got em all stuck in his garage ;D.
Haha, it's not that bad. ::) The engines are fairly easy to get hold of, but for 2wd applications the LT77 gearbox is the hard one to get.
Cheers
Actually that makes sense
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A Rover V8 will need a cam, porting and a decent carb / EFI setup to get close to a standard 3.0 V6 and any one you're likely to find will be well worn and need a rebuild whereas there are plenty of GM V6s around with loads of life left in them that you could just drop in.
Given that you'll have your work cut out anyway to meet that deadline I'd stick to the original plan. :y
Sounds like a fun project though. ;D
Kevin
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A Rover V8 will need a cam, porting and a decent carb / EFI setup to get close to a standard 3.0 V6 and any one you're likely to find will be well worn and need a rebuild whereas there are plenty of GM V6s around with loads of life left in them that you could just drop in.
Given that you'll have your work cut out anyway to meet that deadline I'd stick to the original plan. :y
Sounds like a fun project though. ;D
Kevin
This exactly why I'm sticking to my plan of fitting a GM V6. It's the cheapest way of getting 200+bhp, and should fit quite easily in the Scimitar as it already has a V6.
Nath
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A Rover V8 will need a cam, porting and a decent carb / EFI setup to get close to a standard 3.0 V6 and any one you're likely to find will be well worn and need a rebuild whereas there are plenty of GM V6s around with loads of life left in them that you could just drop in.
Given that you'll have your work cut out anyway to meet that deadline I'd stick to the original plan. :y
Sounds like a fun project though. ;D
Kevin
This exactly why I'm sticking to my plan of fitting a GM V6. It's the cheapest way of getting 200+bhp, and should fit quite easily in the Scimitar as it already has a V6.
Nath
Would it be a lot more work to put a couple of superchargers on it while your in there!!!!! or a cheap nitrous kit!!!!! That would be the meanest badass scimitar ever created ;D