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Title: Don't use pattern clutches
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 13 November 2007, 18:05:43
I fitted a Ferrodo clutch to my car, fitted with everything completely clean. I now have a slight clutch judder.

No urgency, however In the summer, I will fit an R28 box with a genuine clutch... and new spigot..
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Post by: Taxi_Driver on 13 November 2007, 18:32:04
Fit an AR35......you wont get clutch judder then  :y
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Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 13 November 2007, 18:33:05
Hmm, always thought Ferodo were quite good...?
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Post by: Elite Pete on 13 November 2007, 19:09:11
Is it a side line now hes finished filming Lord of the Rings :D
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Post by: Golfbuddy on 13 November 2007, 19:13:34
Agreed, I would never use a clutch on mine.  :y
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Post by: Entwood on 13 November 2007, 20:12:15
Wots a clutch ??   ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: CaptainZok on 13 November 2007, 20:58:13
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Wots a clutch ??   ;D ;D ;D
Think it's what holds the lead in a propelling pencil mate.
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Post by: Golfbuddy on 13 November 2007, 21:23:57
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Wots a clutch ??   ;D ;D ;D
Think it's what holds the lead in a propelling pencil mate.

Not something we have to concern ourselves with then.  ;D
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Post by: Entwood on 13 November 2007, 21:26:34
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Wots a clutch ??   ;D ;D ;D
Think it's what holds the lead in a propelling pencil mate.

Not something we have to concern ourselves with then.  ;D

Thank the lord for that ... :)
Title: Re: Don't use pattern clutches
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 13 November 2007, 21:29:01
From the time I start using omega I forgot clutch..And my left foot stay lazy..When I drive manuals from time to time  :-?

And right hand dont have anything to play with other than steering (LHD driver  ;D)

wish it was manual..
Title: Re: Don't use pattern clutches
Post by: Golfbuddy on 13 November 2007, 21:30:11
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From the time I start using omega I forgot clutch..And my left foot stay lazy..When I drive manuals from time to time  :-?

And right hand dont have anything to play with other than steering (LHD driver  ;D)

That must just be me then?  :-[

I'll get me coat.
Title: Re: Don't use pattern clutches
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 13 November 2007, 21:33:48
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From the time I start using omega I forgot clutch..And my left foot stay lazy..When I drive manuals from time to time  :-?

And right hand dont have anything to play with other than steering (LHD driver  ;D)

That must just be me then?  :-[
I'll get me coat.

I expected  ;D
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 13 November 2007, 21:35:32
By the way Congrats Baron Von Golfbuddy  :y
Title: Re: Don't use pattern clutches
Post by: CaptainZok on 13 November 2007, 21:35:48
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Wots a clutch ??   ;D ;D ;D
Think it's what holds the lead in a propelling pencil mate.

Not something we have to concern ourselves with then.  ;D
What kind of manager are you if you don't have a propelling pencil?
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Post by: Golfbuddy on 13 November 2007, 21:39:26
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Wots a clutch ??   ;D ;D ;D
Think it's what holds the lead in a propelling pencil mate.

Not something we have to concern ourselves with then.  ;D
What kind of manager are you if you don't have a propelling pencil?

The sort who gets his staff to do the writing.  ;) Being a union rep, you should know that the management do the talking.  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: CaptainZok on 13 November 2007, 21:42:46
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Wots a clutch ??   ;D ;D ;D
Think it's what holds the lead in a propelling pencil mate.

Not something we have to concern ourselves with then.  ;D
What kind of manager are you if you don't have a propelling pencil?

The sort who gets his staff to do the writing.  ;) Being a union rep, you should know that the management do the talking.  ;D ;D ;D
Quite true, but it's usually quite muffled as it comes from their nether regions.  ;D ;D
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Post by: Golfbuddy on 13 November 2007, 21:48:36
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Wots a clutch ??   ;D ;D ;D
Think it's what holds the lead in a propelling pencil mate.

Not something we have to concern ourselves with then.  ;D
What kind of manager are you if you don't have a propelling pencil?

The sort who gets his staff to do the writing.  ;) Being a union rep, you should know that the management do the talking.  ;D ;D ;D
Quite true, but it's usually quite muffled as it comes from their nether regions.  ;D ;D


Funny you should say that. Since I've passed 40 I've noticed that there is a lot more noise from that area.  ;D ;D ;D

(By the way, hopefully Tony should get his parcel tomorrow.)
Title: Re: Don't use pattern clutches
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 13 November 2007, 21:50:40
Tut Tut James, blaming the clutch before you have any evidence what so ever that it is this at fault......
Title: Re: Don't use pattern clutches
Post by: Kevin Wood on 13 November 2007, 22:08:44
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I fitted a Ferrodo clutch to my car, fitted with everything completely clean. I now have a slight clutch judder.

No urgency, however In the summer, I will fit an R28 box with a genuine clutch... and new spigot..

A ferodo one should be OK, I'd have thought :-/
Not got a loose engine / gearbox mount?
Water / oil leak into bellhousing? No evidence of fluids underneath?

Kevin

Title: Re: Don't use pattern clutches
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 14 November 2007, 12:06:25
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Tut Tut James, blaming the clutch before you have any evidence what so ever that it is this at fault......


Who pulled your chain...... :P

My theory is this

A) The clutch was fitted squeaky clean, and there are no leaks, so I very very much doubt contamination.

B) Engine/gearbox mount crossed my mind - however it didn't judder before the clutch change - only after. Be a big co-incidence if it failed at the same time - plus - I can't feel any excessive play in any mounts.

C) Relesase nearing is also new

Any other suggestions more than welcome, though :y

Title: Re: Don't use pattern clutches
Post by: Kevin Wood on 14 November 2007, 13:21:49
Excessive crankshaft endfloat?  :-X

Forgot to replace spigot bearing?  :-X

Kevin
Title: Re: Don't use pattern clutches
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 14 November 2007, 13:37:20
What could be done about too much endfloat? I don't care to think about that  :-X

The Spigot - felt absolutely fine by hand, hence not changing it...
Title: Re: Don't use pattern clutches
Post by: Kevin Wood on 14 November 2007, 13:54:07
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What could be done about too much endfloat? I don't care to think about that

There's normally a thrust washer built into one of the main bearings to control endfloat. I'm sure it's not that, though. It would have been there before you changed the clutch.

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The Spigot - felt absolutely fine by hand, hence not changing it...

Ahh, OK. I was wondering if you took it out. Some people in such circumstances might be prone to forget to fit the new one and would therefore get clutch judder - so a man down the pub told me ::) Then again, if it was driving Ok when you first put it back together and it's started juddering since, that one's unlikely too.

I might be inclined to see what develops for a few K. Maybe it will go away again as it all beds in. How many miles has it done since the change?

Kevin
Title: Re: Don't use pattern clutches
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 14 November 2007, 13:57:01
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How many miles has it done since the change?

Kevin

About 2/3,000 miles...
Title: Re: Don't use pattern clutches
Post by: amigov6 on 14 November 2007, 22:39:05
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Wots a clutch ??   ;D ;D ;D
:)Where i come from it's known as a "Rabbit Hutch"!!!!!!!!! :D