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Title: 100 mph speed limiter
Post by: feeutfo on 09 March 2009, 09:31:19
a guy at work just bought a 2.5 v6 pfl.
Sounds tidy but it has a speed restrictor! Anyone heard of this?
Seller said its factory fit, if so can it be removed via tech 2? Ta
Title: Re: 100 mph speed limiter
Post by: Markjay on 09 March 2009, 09:45:16
Never heard of factory-fitted 100mph speed limiter  :(

On any car, come to think of it!

155mph limiter, yes, of this I did hear  ;)

But 100mph? Sorry, no....

Anyway, I can say with certainty that none of my Omegas had such a device  ::)
Title: Re: 100 mph speed limiter
Post by: puffa on 09 March 2009, 09:48:13
I can say from experience my omega's dont seem to have limiters ::), must have been an aftermarket job ?
Title: Re: 100 mph speed limiter
Post by: feeutfo on 09 March 2009, 10:10:09
that was my reply when he asked me. Him being from Europe, he has experienced various marques with limiters. Some as low as 70, i did ask if it was a left hooker but if says its def a uk car.

Why would somebody do such a thing?

On the other hand its not a speed thats commonly used. But apparantly it does come in with a bit of a bang. Get it off i say.

Title: Re: 100 mph speed limiter
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 09 March 2009, 10:13:07
Sounds like an excuse for a fault on the car.

Title: Re: 100 mph speed limiter
Post by: Loch View on 09 March 2009, 10:14:10
I've heard of the catera being limited to 125mph but not the Omega, anywhere in europe
Title: Re: 100 mph speed limiter
Post by: VX1 on 09 March 2009, 10:22:42
Maybe the throttle cable needs to be adjusted under the bonnet?

Paul :y
Title: Re: 100 mph speed limiter
Post by: feeutfo on 09 March 2009, 10:25:43
i did ask if it was a miss fire issue but he says it revs out fully in all gears and driver fine no problem. It cuts in dead on 100 he said. Not 101 not 102 not 99. Always 100!
I wonder if some fleet manager had them fitted to keep his reps from getting band? 30% over and all that?
Title: Re: 100 mph speed limiter
Post by: John Lewis on 09 March 2009, 11:35:33
I thought a ban was based on an average of 96 though...? Not that I've ever got a warning for being close *cough*.

 :-[
Title: Re: 100 mph speed limiter
Post by: Black Knight on 09 March 2009, 12:23:39
96 is the point where you are likely to get a summons rather than a FPN, thats if you're on 70 limit roads of course!

Title: Re: 100 mph speed limiter
Post by: TheBoy on 09 March 2009, 12:57:24
Not aware of any limiter functions. Certainly nothing in the std ecu configs.  Could feasibly be a config in abs, but again, never seen it....
Title: Re: 100 mph speed limiter
Post by: Martin_1962 on 09 March 2009, 13:55:59
Almost sounds homemade

Might be worth checking for additional wiring.

The speedo does not match the computer - the speedo is deliberately wrong due to strange legal reasons
Title: Re: 100 mph speed limiter
Post by: tmx on 09 March 2009, 15:46:46
BT use them it is done Via Tech II on the newer stuff Combo,Corsa Signum, Astra,Vivaro

BT do it at 70mph to stop naughty apprentices trying to get combo vans to 120MPH on the m6 on their way to Yarnfield ;D

But my BT mechanic collegue told me its done via Tech2

The vans get to 70 and then the fuel supply is cut as the power dies out
Title: Re: 100 mph speed limiter
Post by: oceansoul on 09 March 2009, 17:20:38
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BT use them it is done Via Tech II on the newer stuff Combo,Corsa Signum, Astra,Vivaro

BT do it at 70mph to stop naughty apprentices trying to get combo vans to 120MPH on the m6 on their way to Yarnfield ;D

But my BT mechanic collegue told me its done via Tech2

The vans get to 70 and then the fuel supply is cut as the power dies out


Im an apprentice (for a different company), and we have combo vans....... trust me they certainly dont go 120 mph :( let alone 80 :( lol

Our new vans are all limited to 70 mph, though. Upon reaching 70 (or 73/74 or the dials) they jus stop revving.
Title: Re: 100 mph speed limiter
Post by: Psychoca on 09 March 2009, 17:35:58
My Omega does/did have a limiter that kicks in at 85 (98 plate) but, I seem to have overridden that with the performance chip.  I found that if I dipped the throttle just before it kicked in, it would over go another 5mph before kicking in again...

Title: Re: 100 mph speed limiter
Post by: TheBoy on 09 March 2009, 17:52:02
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BT use them it is done Via Tech II on the newer stuff Combo,Corsa Signum, Astra,Vivaro

BT do it at 70mph to stop naughty apprentices trying to get combo vans to 120MPH on the m6 on their way to Yarnfield ;D

But my BT mechanic collegue told me its done via Tech2

The vans get to 70 and then the fuel supply is cut as the power dies out
but no setting in the 2.5/3.0 (won't worry about 2.0 as thats not fast enough to care ;)).
Title: Re: 100 mph speed limiter
Post by: jonathanh on 09 March 2009, 18:33:33
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BT use them it is done Via Tech II on the newer stuff Combo,Corsa Signum, Astra,Vivaro

BT do it at 70mph to stop naughty apprentices trying to get combo vans to 120MPH on the m6 on their way to Yarnfield ;D

But my BT mechanic collegue told me its done via Tech2

The vans get to 70 and then the fuel supply is cut as the power dies out

I've never seen a BT van in a hurry - actually I'm lying.  only when they are late to get home or rushing to get a brew on
Title: Re: 100 mph speed limiter
Post by: tmx on 09 March 2009, 18:55:45
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BT use them it is done Via Tech II on the newer stuff Combo,Corsa Signum, Astra,Vivaro

BT do it at 70mph to stop naughty apprentices trying to get combo vans to 120MPH on the m6 on their way to Yarnfield ;D

But my BT mechanic collegue told me its done via Tech2

The vans get to 70 and then the fuel supply is cut as the power dies out


Im an apprentice (for a different company), and we have combo vans....... trust me they certainly dont go 120 mph :( let alone 80 :( lol

Our new vans are all limited to 70 mph, though. Upon reaching 70 (or 73/74 or the dials) they jus stop revving.


Not Combo sorry Vivaro!

Corsa 1.3 CDTis will barely just scrape past 105 takes about 20 minuites from 70 to get there but it does!
Title: Re: 100 mph speed limiter
Post by: TheBoy on 09 March 2009, 19:02:19
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BT use them it is done Via Tech II on the newer stuff Combo,Corsa Signum, Astra,Vivaro

BT do it at 70mph to stop naughty apprentices trying to get combo vans to 120MPH on the m6 on their way to Yarnfield ;D

But my BT mechanic collegue told me its done via Tech2

The vans get to 70 and then the fuel supply is cut as the power dies out

I've never seen a BT van in a hurry - actually I'm lying.  only when they are late to get home or rushing to get a brew on
Never met me on the roads then when I used to work for them - my transit went like brown stuff off a shovel, just as well as I always used to book too many appointments in a day due to workload (I managed my own appointments/workstack as a troubleshooter)
Title: Re: 100 mph speed limiter
Post by: tmx on 09 March 2009, 19:07:19
transits get rather interesting past 90!

yes i was always in a hurry up them nice welsh mountain roads supprised i never got reported in all honesty
Title: Re: 100 mph speed limiter
Post by: TheBoy on 09 March 2009, 19:10:30
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transits get rather interesting past 90!

yes i was always in a hurry up them nice welsh mountain roads supprised i never got reported in all honesty
mine was an older one - remember I haven't done a real job for 15yrs ;D

mine was one of the first cse vans, handled like a dream (but let go suddenly if you overcooked it) and spent a lot of its life having its engine 'freed-up' in the outside lanes on m40/m1/m4/m25
Title: Re: 100 mph speed limiter
Post by: tmx on 09 March 2009, 19:17:47
LOL! Myn was a 2.4 Mk4 Di which would start to get very hot after 90 mph handled well for what it was though!

there was a guy on the patch that had a sherpa and wanted a transit when they first come out so he rammed his sherpa in 1st gear going down a very steap hill

BT being the way they are though insisted on a full engine rebuild! instead of replacement and in true BT fasion after spending 100's on a rebuild replaced his van with a transit a few weeks later!
Title: Re: 100 mph speed limiter
Post by: TheBoy on 09 March 2009, 19:21:00
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LOL! Myn was a 2.4 Mk4 Di which would start to get very hot after 90 mph handled well for what it was though!

there was a guy on the patch that had a sherpa and wanted a transit when they first come out so he rammed his sherpa in 1st gear going down a very steap hill

BT being the way they are though insisted on a full engine rebuild! instead of replacement and in true BT fasion after spending 100's on a rebuild replaced his van with a transit a few weeks later!
Mine sat would sit all day at normal temp whilst doing instant ban speeds on the motorway...
Title: Re: 100 mph speed limiter
Post by: TheBoy on 09 March 2009, 19:23:35
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LOL! Myn was a 2.4 Mk4 Di which would start to get very hot after 90 mph handled well for what it was though!

there was a guy on the patch that had a sherpa and wanted a transit when they first come out so he rammed his sherpa in 1st gear going down a very steap hill

BT being the way they are though insisted on a full engine rebuild! instead of replacement and in true BT fasion after spending 100's on a rebuild replaced his van with a transit a few weeks later!
There are other implications to replacing vans before their time.  They have to find me a temporary maestro when my ital rusted away, before I had that heap of an Escort (first in the company) they gave me.