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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: lou on 23 March 2009, 12:56:53

Title: Check oil level mystery?
Post by: lou on 23 March 2009, 12:56:53
Hi, just return from a trip from Belgium. About half way to Brussels and pushing the car a little, let just say I was keeping up with the BMW's & Merc's (just a tad fast) and cruising along nicely, I suddenly noticed that I was getting the " Check oil level" on the display. Within a few miles I stopped and checked after a minute and found the oil level a whisker away from the max with no visible leaks, water level spot-on and clear. Carried on with the journey and display had cleared, but kept coming back and going. Eventually I stopped again for 15 mins and found level up to max. I did purchased some oil and put a tiny little drop in (100ml). Message cleared and did not appear again for the whole journey and back. I did change the oil prior to journey with Genuine Vx semi synthetic and filled it what I believed was to the max. Could my speed have affected this reading? or does it have to be topped up to the absolute max? Anyone any ideas? :question
Title: Re: Check oil level mystery?
Post by: Squatch on 23 March 2009, 13:02:03
It should only come on when the level goes below minimum on the dipstick. Sounds to me like a faulty oil level sensor
Title: Re: Check oil level mystery?
Post by: lou on 23 March 2009, 13:06:44
I believe there are two messages that can appear one being "Oil level low" and "check oil level" where the low one is where action needs to be taken asap.
Title: Re: Check oil level mystery?
Post by: ians on 23 March 2009, 13:16:40
In my experience 'Check Oil' appears at half way (.5 litre) down the dipstick.

Best to check again when the car has been standing a decent time.

I think the other message is 'Oil lack' and which means stop now before you ruin your engine..
Title: Re: Check oil level mystery?
Post by: HerefordElite on 23 March 2009, 13:23:25
have had similar warning while 'pushing on' a bit  ::)

i think the high revs / speed means it sloshes about a bit more and can give a temporary low message if it's not topped to the max :-/
Title: Re: Check oil level mystery?
Post by: Squatch on 23 March 2009, 13:42:04
I frequently "push it a bit" and have never seen this message..however oil level is monitored religiously. I did get it on my old 2.5 when it had oil siphoned off by a dodgy garage - Check Oil level and then Oil lack. The level was below the minimum mark..
Title: Re: Check oil level mystery?
Post by: lou on 23 March 2009, 13:46:47
I have done the oil change myself and put in just over 5 litres. After i put in "another drop " the message did not return" but like I said before when I stopped and checked it was as good as touching the max mark..
Title: Re: Check oil level mystery?
Post by: ians on 23 March 2009, 13:50:36
It should be 5.75L to top mark (assuming filter change)
Title: Re: Check oil level mystery?
Post by: bigtow on 24 March 2009, 23:25:11
dont mean to worry you but i had this happen to my mv6 and it turned out to be the oil cooler that had failed keep checking the header tank for oilly deposits .
Title: Re: Check oil level mystery?
Post by: si vaux on 24 March 2009, 23:43:40
I went through a bit of this display coming up intermitently but since topping it up no problems. She just likes to be well lubricated I think.
Title: Re: Check oil level mystery?
Post by: hotel21 on 24 March 2009, 23:46:27
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dont mean to worry you but i had this happen to my mv6 and it turned out to be the oil cooler that had failed keep checking the header tank for oilly deposits .

Read and understood....

Its very very rare though...

Most times though, just stop the car and engine where its safe and check the oil level.  Probably at mid stick or thereabouts.  Top up with oil of choice to the max mark then, off you jolly well....   :y
Title: Re: Check oil level mystery?
Post by: lou on 24 March 2009, 23:58:01
Hi, thanks for replies. When I topped with 100 ml along the way and covered another 300 miles at high speed she has been as good as gold. On returning home I checked oil which was 1mm over the max.(after a day of standing) Water is like light rose wine with no sign of any contamination. It appears she was to be topped up to the max. ( bit like her owner lol). Will keep an eye on it ....
Title: Re: Check oil level mystery?
Post by: jb on 25 March 2009, 07:58:24
high speed cornering/braking can fool the sensor due to oil surging in the sump-oil lack is the one to worry about.
Title: Re: Check oil level mystery?
Post by: Omegadoha, Desert Member on 25 March 2009, 10:06:32
I was battling with this particular syndrome a few weeks ago. The message would pop up after say 15 minutes of driving and then appear at random intervals. The oil had been changed and was topped up appropriately. The culprit was found to be the oil level sensor. I would recommend to have that changed.  :y
Title: Re: Check oil level mystery?
Post by: aymen on 25 March 2009, 12:49:12
dear,
my opel 2.2 had on its screen "check oil level" shortly its moter got out of order that its temperature reached 100 and the gasget of the engine head got wornout.
so do not stay looking at your car
I think that it means the oil pump is not working well
aymen
Title: Re: Check oil level mystery?
Post by: archermk on 25 March 2009, 13:42:02
I occasionally had this problem in my old S-reg Elite when driving hard up hill, ie maximum load. As you have found, the problem can't be seen when the engine is off.

I concluded that, either by design or because of past maintenance, some of the oil return channels were restricted - remember that oil is pumped around the block. This would cause the sump level to drop when the engine (and therefore the oil pump) was working hard. When the engine stopped, the oil drained back down to the sump.

Apart from the disconcerting oil light on the dash, the only problem I could see is if the sump level drops low enough to starve the pump.

I'm just wondering how do you check a level sensor? I can think of one way to do it - but I'm not going to suggest it!
Title: Re: Check oil level mystery?
Post by: Andy B on 25 March 2009, 14:04:53
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I'm just wondering how do you check a level sensor? I can think of one way to do it - but I'm not going to suggest it!

Turn the ignition on (NOT ENGINE) half way through an oil change.  :y
Title: Re: Check oil level mystery?
Post by: lou on 25 March 2009, 14:05:44
I have been reading through your replies and it seems to be varying from "keep it topped up and don't worry about it to my engine is going to pack up completely any time now" almost like " I felt some pain in my chest earlier...I am i going to die of a heart attack soon?
Anyway I am not going to worry about it anymore...Incidentally where is the sensor that sends the signal "check oil level"
Cheers all.....
Title: Re: Check oil level mystery?
Post by: Andy B on 25 March 2009, 14:07:21
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.......Incidentally where is the sensor that sends the signal "check oil level"
Cheers all.....

Fastened to inside the lower sump pan, you can see the connector at the back, on top of the rear edge of the sump pan.
Title: Re: Check oil level mystery?
Post by: Exec on 25 March 2009, 15:13:59
afaik there are two oil signals:
  'ckeck oil level' - appears when oil level is on half way of min---max (not so dangeorus)
  and second signal is 'engine oil level', which is worse, it means the oil level is min or less

  the idea is smart - the car tells 'check oil level' because you're loosing it somehow, but you can still drive the car

  if there wasn't such notification, you would get only 'engine oil level' signal, when there is already not enough oil for engine to work safely...