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Title: Headlamp levellers
Post by: STMO123 on 17 November 2007, 18:17:44
Going to have a look at my levellers tomorrow. I'm on a roll now after doing the maf. Trouble is, I dont really know what I'm looking for. The garage said it looked like someone had had a jack under them. I am hoping I may be able to just undo the damage done with a bit of grunting and bending. Before I take the plunge, ANY advice would be great. Thanks, Steve.
Title: Re: Headlamp levellers
Post by: Golfbuddy on 17 November 2007, 18:19:05
No.
Title: Re: Headlamp levellers
Post by: STMO123 on 17 November 2007, 18:20:12
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No.


Thank you for even bothering to read my post. I am humbled.
Title: Re: Headlamp levellers
Post by: Golfbuddy on 17 November 2007, 18:24:00
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Thank you for even bothering to read my post. I am humbled.

No problem. I read it 11 times before I bothered to answer though. Looks like I'm the only one though.  ;D
Title: Re: Headlamp levellers
Post by: STMO123 on 17 November 2007, 18:24:40
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Thank you for even bothering to read my post. I am humbled.

No problem. I read it 11 times before I bothered to answer though. Looks like I'm the only one though.  ;D

Early days. The footie is on.
Title: Re: Headlamp levellers
Post by: STMO123 on 17 November 2007, 18:53:49
Come on. I know someone knows ::)
Title: Re: Headlamp levellers
Post by: Golfbuddy on 17 November 2007, 18:54:53
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Come on. I know someone knows ::)

 :D ;D :D ;D
Title: Re: Headlamp levellers
Post by: TheBoy on 17 November 2007, 18:56:10
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Going to have a look at my levellers tomorrow. I'm on a roll now after doing the maf. Trouble is, I dont really know what I'm looking for. The garage said it looked like someone had had a jack under them. I am hoping I may be able to just undo the damage done with a bit of grunting and bending. Before I take the plunge, ANY advice would be great. Thanks, Steve.
No idea about Alfas :(

On Omegas, its normally the sensor on suspension arms has come unclipped, or the servo motors seized.
Title: Re: Headlamp levellers
Post by: STMO123 on 17 November 2007, 18:56:15
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Come on. I know someone knows ::)

 :D ;D :D ;D

Not a useful contribution. Ask Chopsdad :P
Title: Re: Headlamp levellers
Post by: Elite Pete on 17 November 2007, 18:56:35
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Going to have a look at my levellers tomorrow. I'm on a roll now after doing the maf. Trouble is, I dont really know what I'm looking for. The garage said it looked like someone had had a jack under them. I am hoping I may be able to just undo the damage done with a bit of grunting and bending. Before I take the plunge, ANY advice would be great. Thanks, Steve.
Sell it :D
Title: Re: Headlamp levellers
Post by: STMO123 on 17 November 2007, 18:57:09
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Going to have a look at my levellers tomorrow. I'm on a roll now after doing the maf. Trouble is, I dont really know what I'm looking for. The garage said it looked like someone had had a jack under them. I am hoping I may be able to just undo the damage done with a bit of grunting and bending. Before I take the plunge, ANY advice would be great. Thanks, Steve.
No idea about Alfas :(

On Omegas, its normally the sensor on suspension arms has come unclipped, or the servo motors seized.

Well, I reckon it's crowbar jobbie. :y :y
Title: Re: Headlamp levellers
Post by: STMO123 on 17 November 2007, 18:57:40
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Going to have a look at my levellers tomorrow. I'm on a roll now after doing the maf. Trouble is, I dont really know what I'm looking for. The garage said it looked like someone had had a jack under them. I am hoping I may be able to just undo the damage done with a bit of grunting and bending. Before I take the plunge, ANY advice would be great. Thanks, Steve.
Sell it :D

It's too fast for you mate. ;D
Title: Re: Headlamp levellers
Post by: Crazydad on 17 November 2007, 19:00:07
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Going to have a look at my levellers tomorrow. I'm on a roll now after doing the maf. Trouble is, I dont really know what I'm looking for. The garage said it looked like someone had had a jack under them. I am hoping I may be able to just undo the damage done with a bit of grunting and bending. Before I take the plunge, ANY advice would be great. Thanks, Steve.


I have some good advice for you :y

Look for a new Omega ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Headlamp levellers
Post by: STMO123 on 17 November 2007, 19:01:12
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Going to have a look at my levellers tomorrow. I'm on a roll now after doing the maf. Trouble is, I dont really know what I'm looking for. The garage said it looked like someone had had a jack under them. I am hoping I may be able to just undo the damage done with a bit of grunting and bending. Before I take the plunge, ANY advice would be great. Thanks, Steve.


I have some good advice for you :y

Look for a new Omega ;D ;D ;D

Never! I'm in love with my Bella :-*
Title: Re: Headlamp levellers
Post by: Golfbuddy on 17 November 2007, 19:01:26
FFS. I suppose he won't shut up until someone makes a useful suggestion.

Have you tried this (http://alfaowner.com/Forum/alfa-164-and-166/43769-navteq-alfa-166-g3-2006-a.html)?

 :o :o :o
Title: Re: Headlamp levellers
Post by: MikeDundee on 17 November 2007, 19:03:33
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Going to have a look at my levellers tomorrow. I'm on a roll now after doing the maf. Trouble is, I dont really know what I'm looking for. The garage said it looked like someone had had a jack under them. I am hoping I may be able to just undo the damage done with a bit of grunting and bending. Before I take the plunge, ANY advice would be great. Thanks, Steve.

Try getting Jaime to plug in a the Tech 2 into it and reset the levels on them :y.........Oh sorry forgot you got one o those Italian jobby thingy's...... ;D
Title: Re: Headlamp levellers
Post by: STMO123 on 17 November 2007, 19:04:44
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FFS. I suppose he won't shut up until someone makes a useful suggestion.

Have you tried this (http://alfaowner.com/Forum/alfa-164-and-166/43769-navteq-alfa-166-g3-2006-a.html)?

 :o :o :o

Navtec? WTF has that got to do with anything????

Already got this from the nice, friendly alfa forum:

Are your headlamps pointing down too much due to damage to the axle sensors that measure vehicle pitch? If so then all you really need to do is bend the brackets that hold the sensors back to somewhere close to their normal position, and then reaim your headlamps.
All the sensors do is send a signal to an ECU that calculates whether the car is pitching, which then adjusts the headlamps to stop them dazzling oncoming drivers. If these brackets have been bent out of shape then the signals from the sensors (basic potentiometers) will have changed, and hence the ECU will think that your car is permanently nose up/down, and hence set the headlamps to an incorrect position.
You could however just reaim your headlamps to a correct aim and not bother sorting the brackets but this may lead to problems with the levelling system being permanently biased to one side of it's operating range and the posibility of it operating outside its adjustment range. This can lead to the reflectors in the headlamp being wound off the end of their adjuster screws which would then require new headlamps.
Hope I have picked up on the right meaning of your post and this hasn't just been a complete load of nonsense and good luck
Title: Re: Headlamp levellers
Post by: Golfbuddy on 17 November 2007, 19:07:13
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FFS. I suppose he won't shut up until someone makes a useful suggestion.

Have you tried this (http://alfaowner.com/Forum/alfa-164-and-166/43769-navteq-alfa-166-g3-2006-a.html)?

 :o :o :o

Navtec? WTF has that got to do with anything????

Already got this from the nice, friendly alfa forum:

Are your headlamps pointing down too much due to damage to the axle sensors that measure vehicle pitch? If so then all you really need to do is bend the brackets that hold the sensors back to somewhere close to their normal position, and then reaim your headlamps.
All the sensors do is send a signal to an ECU that calculates whether the car is pitching, which then adjusts the headlamps to stop them dazzling oncoming drivers. If these brackets have been bent out of shape then the signals from the sensors (basic potentiometers) will have changed, and hence the ECU will think that your car is permanently nose up/down, and hence set the headlamps to an incorrect position.
You could however just reaim your headlamps to a correct aim and not bother sorting the brackets but this may lead to problems with the levelling system being permanently biased to one side of it's operating range and the posibility of it operating outside its adjustment range. This can lead to the reflectors in the headlamp being wound off the end of their adjuster screws which would then require new headlamps.
Hope I have picked up on the right meaning of your post and this hasn't just been a complete load of nonsense and good luck

Well, we all knew that. Just thought it was too obvious to post here.  >:(
Title: Re: Headlamp levellers
Post by: Crazydad on 17 November 2007, 19:10:41
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FFS. I suppose he won't shut up until someone makes a useful suggestion.

Have you tried this (http://alfaowner.com/Forum/alfa-164-and-166/43769-navteq-alfa-166-g3-2006-a.html)?

 :o :o :o

Navtec? WTF has that got to do with anything????

Already got this from the nice, friendly alfa forum:

Are your headlamps pointing down too much due to damage to the axle sensors that measure vehicle pitch? If so then all you really need to do is bend the brackets that hold the sensors back to somewhere close to their normal position, and then reaim your headlamps.
All the sensors do is send a signal to an ECU that calculates whether the car is pitching, which then adjusts the headlamps to stop them dazzling oncoming drivers. If these brackets have been bent out of shape then the signals from the sensors (basic potentiometers) will have changed, and hence the ECU will think that your car is permanently nose up/down, and hence set the headlamps to an incorrect position.
You could however just reaim your headlamps to a correct aim and not bother sorting the brackets but this may lead to problems with the levelling system being permanently biased to one side of it's operating range and the posibility of it operating outside its adjustment range. This can lead to the reflectors in the headlamp being wound off the end of their adjuster screws which would then require new headlamps.
Hope I have picked up on the right meaning of your post and this hasn't just been a complete load of nonsense and good luck

Well, we all knew that. Just thought it was too obvious to post here.
 >:(

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Headlamp levellers
Post by: TheBoy on 17 November 2007, 19:11:44
Also fixed with 5 gallons of petrol and a single match....
Title: Re: Headlamp levellers
Post by: Elite Pete on 17 November 2007, 19:13:09
Is your Alfa one of those rare ones Steve with working headlights ;D
Title: Re: Headlamp levellers
Post by: STMO123 on 17 November 2007, 19:14:19
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Also fixed with 5 gallons of petrol and a single match....

Dear oh dear. Jealousy is not nice Jaime.  ;D

And it's no use crying over spilt milk :P
Title: Re: Headlamp levellers
Post by: Elite Pete on 17 November 2007, 19:15:30
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Also fixed with 5 gallons of petrol and a single match....

Dear oh dear. Jealousy is not nice Jaime.  ;D

And it's no use crying over spilt milk :P
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Headlamp levellers
Post by: MikeDundee on 17 November 2007, 19:16:13
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Also fixed with 5 gallons of petrol and a single match....

Dear oh dear. Jealousy is not nice Jaime.  ;D

And it's no use crying over spilt milk :P


Did somebody spill some Milk then ::) :-/

Title: Re: Headlamp levellers
Post by: TheBoy on 17 November 2007, 19:18:12
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Also fixed with 5 gallons of petrol and a single match....

Dear oh dear. Jealousy is not nice Jaime.  ;D

And it's no use crying over spilt milk :P
OUCH! That hurts  >:(

;D
Title: Re: Headlamp levellers
Post by: Crazydad on 17 November 2007, 19:19:48
Nice one Steve  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Headlamp levellers
Post by: Ken T on 17 November 2007, 19:24:28
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FFS. I suppose he won't shut up until someone makes a useful suggestion.

Have you tried this (http://alfaowner.com/Forum/alfa-164-and-166/43769-navteq-alfa-166-g3-2006-a.html)?

 :o :o :o

Navtec? WTF has that got to do with anything????

Already got this from the nice, friendly alfa forum:

Are your headlamps pointing down too much due to damage to the axle sensors that measure vehicle pitch? If so then all you really need to do is bend the brackets that hold the sensors back to somewhere close to their normal position, and then reaim your headlamps.
All the sensors do is send a signal to an ECU that calculates whether the car is pitching, which then adjusts the headlamps to stop them dazzling oncoming drivers. If these brackets have been bent out of shape then the signals from the sensors (basic potentiometers) will have changed, and hence the ECU will think that your car is permanently nose up/down, and hence set the headlamps to an incorrect position.
You could however just reaim your headlamps to a correct aim and not bother sorting the brackets but this may lead to problems with the levelling system being permanently biased to one side of it's operating range and the posibility of it operating outside its adjustment range. This can lead to the reflectors in the headlamp being wound off the end of their adjuster screws which would then require new headlamps.
Hope I have picked up on the right meaning of your post and this hasn't just been a complete load of nonsense and good luck


There is another way to do this. Either blow up the front tyres and let down the back ones (or vise versa) to correct the miss-alignment, or solder 4K7 resistors onto the track ends of the measuring potentiometers. That's bound to fix it.  :y :y :y

Ken
Title: Re: Headlamp levellers
Post by: Golfbuddy on 17 November 2007, 19:25:50
OK then. If your friends at Alfa Owners can't help you.

How about your friends here (http://www.gala-bingo.co.uk/home.aspx)?  ::)
Title: Re: Headlamp levellers
Post by: STMO123 on 17 November 2007, 19:25:51
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FFS. I suppose he won't shut up until someone makes a useful suggestion.

Have you tried this (http://alfaowner.com/Forum/alfa-164-and-166/43769-navteq-alfa-166-g3-2006-a.html)?

 :o :o :o

Navtec? WTF has that got to do with anything????

Already got this from the nice, friendly alfa forum:

Are your headlamps pointing down too much due to damage to the axle sensors that measure vehicle pitch? If so then all you really need to do is bend the brackets that hold the sensors back to somewhere close to their normal position, and then reaim your headlamps.
All the sensors do is send a signal to an ECU that calculates whether the car is pitching, which then adjusts the headlamps to stop them dazzling oncoming drivers. If these brackets have been bent out of shape then the signals from the sensors (basic potentiometers) will have changed, and hence the ECU will think that your car is permanently nose up/down, and hence set the headlamps to an incorrect position.
You could however just reaim your headlamps to a correct aim and not bother sorting the brackets but this may lead to problems with the levelling system being permanently biased to one side of it's operating range and the posibility of it operating outside its adjustment range. This can lead to the reflectors in the headlamp being wound off the end of their adjuster screws which would then require new headlamps.
Hope I have picked up on the right meaning of your post and this hasn't just been a complete load of nonsense and good luck


There is another way to do this. Either blow up the front tyres and let down the back ones (or vise versa) to correct the miss-alignment, or solder 4K7 resistors onto the track ends of the measuring potentiometers. That's bound to fix it.  :y :y :y

Ken

Cheers Ken.

TW*T
Title: Re: Headlamp levellers
Post by: alexandjen on 17 November 2007, 19:26:18
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Going to have a look at my levellers tomorrow. I'm on a roll now after doing the maf. Trouble is, I dont really know what I'm looking for. The garage said it looked like someone had had a jack under them. I am hoping I may be able to just undo the damage done with a bit of grunting and bending. Before I take the plunge, ANY advice would be great. Thanks, Steve.
No idea about Alfas :(

On Omegas, its normally the sensor on suspension arms has come unclipped, or the servo motors seized.

That's interesting.....where are the servo motors?
Title: Re: Headlamp levellers
Post by: STMO123 on 17 November 2007, 19:27:15
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Going to have a look at my levellers tomorrow. I'm on a roll now after doing the maf. Trouble is, I dont really know what I'm looking for. The garage said it looked like someone had had a jack under them. I am hoping I may be able to just undo the damage done with a bit of grunting and bending. Before I take the plunge, ANY advice would be great. Thanks, Steve.
No idea about Alfas :(

On Omegas, its normally the sensor on suspension arms has come unclipped, or the servo motors seized.

That's interesting.....where are the servo motors?

On the headlamps
Title: Re: Headlamp levellers
Post by: Ken T on 17 November 2007, 19:28:14
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FFS. I suppose he won't shut up until someone makes a useful suggestion.

Have you tried this (http://alfaowner.com/Forum/alfa-164-and-166/43769-navteq-alfa-166-g3-2006-a.html)?

 :o :o :o

Navtec? WTF has that got to do with anything????

Already got this from the nice, friendly alfa forum:

Are your headlamps pointing down too much due to damage to the axle sensors that measure vehicle pitch? If so then all you really need to do is bend the brackets that hold the sensors back to somewhere close to their normal position, and then reaim your headlamps.
All the sensors do is send a signal to an ECU that calculates whether the car is pitching, which then adjusts the headlamps to stop them dazzling oncoming drivers. If these brackets have been bent out of shape then the signals from the sensors (basic potentiometers) will have changed, and hence the ECU will think that your car is permanently nose up/down, and hence set the headlamps to an incorrect position.
You could however just reaim your headlamps to a correct aim and not bother sorting the brackets but this may lead to problems with the levelling system being permanently biased to one side of it's operating range and the posibility of it operating outside its adjustment range. This can lead to the reflectors in the headlamp being wound off the end of their adjuster screws which would then require new headlamps.
Hope I have picked up on the right meaning of your post and this hasn't just been a complete load of nonsense and good luck


There is another way to do this. Either blow up the front tyres and let down the back ones (or vise versa) to correct the miss-alignment, or solder 4K7 resistors onto the track ends of the measuring potentiometers. That's bound to fix it.  :y :y :y

Ken

Cheers Ken.

TW*T

That's OK, your welcome.

Don't clap just throw pound notes !

Ken
Title: Re: Headlamp levellers
Post by: alexandjen on 17 November 2007, 19:33:05
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Going to have a look at my levellers tomorrow. I'm on a roll now after doing the maf. Trouble is, I dont really know what I'm looking for. The garage said it looked like someone had had a jack under them. I am hoping I may be able to just undo the damage done with a bit of grunting and bending. Before I take the plunge, ANY advice would be great. Thanks, Steve.
No idea about Alfas :(

On Omegas, its normally the sensor on suspension arms has come unclipped, or the servo motors seized.

That's interesting.....where are the servo motors?

On the headlamps


And what exactly do they adjust (complete lamp, reflector etc) and if they are seized how do you unseize them?
Title: Re: Headlamp levellers
Post by: STMO123 on 17 November 2007, 21:58:01
If someone's had a jack under here, I reckon it will be a swine to beng that plate back down. >:(

(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n156/stmo987/PICT0077.jpg)
Title: Re: Headlamp levellers
Post by: Crazydad on 18 November 2007, 13:51:43
You finished this yet Steve??

or is the weather too bad?
Title: Re: Headlamp levellers
Post by: Elite Pete on 18 November 2007, 13:54:21
He's probably nodded off under the car ;)
Title: Re: Headlamp levellers
Post by: STMO123 on 18 November 2007, 13:54:53
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You finished this yet Steve??

or is the weather too bad?

Too cold, too wet, too cant-be-arsed :(
Title: Re: Headlamp levellers
Post by: Crazydad on 18 November 2007, 13:56:59
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You finished this yet Steve??

or is the weather too bad?

Too cold, too wet, too cant-be-arsed :(
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Headlamp levellers
Post by: Elite Pete on 18 November 2007, 13:57:58
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You finished this yet Steve??

or is the weather too bad?

Too cold, too wet, too cant-be-arsed :(
Its not the best time of year to be working on the car.
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Post by: Crazydad on 18 November 2007, 13:58:02
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He's probably nodded off under the car ;)
To be Honest i dont think we will ever see him under the car :y :y :y ;D