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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Tonka. on 04 April 2009, 21:29:23

Title: AR25 now AR35 and the problem remains...
Post by: Tonka. on 04 April 2009, 21:29:23
I got a 'new' AR35 box from a trusted breaker on OOF.
Drained the oil, fitted a new filter, set the clutch.
Removed old AR25 and fitted AR35. A hard but enjoyable job.
Filled correctly with Fuchs Dex II.

Now, the 'new' box is behaving just like the old box but not as harshly.

It holds second gear and thumps into third with a jerk.

This seems too much of a coincedence. Can anybody think of a common fault which may cause this ?

I really don't want to rip another gearbox out this year  ::) ::) :y :y
Title: Re: AR25 now AR35 and the problem remains...
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 04 April 2009, 21:31:11
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I got a 'new' AR35 box from a trusted breaker on OOF.
Drained the oil, fitted a new filter, set the clutch.
Removed old AR25 and fitted AR35. A hard but enjoyable job.
Filled correctly with Fuchs Dex II.

Now, the 'new' box is behaving just like the old box but not as harshly.

It holds second gear and thumps into third with a jerk.

This seems too much of a coincedence. Can anybody think of a common fault which may cause this ?

I really don't want to rip another gearbox out this year  ::) ::) :y :y

Thought gearboxes are supposed to have Dex III gearbox oil?
Title: Re: AR25 now AR35 and the problem remains...
Post by: Tonka. on 04 April 2009, 21:33:32
Typo. Should read DEX III  :-[ :-[

Been a long day  :y :y
Title: Re: AR25 now AR35 and the problem remains...
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 04 April 2009, 21:34:38
Sorry mate :-[
Title: Re: AR25 now AR35 and the problem remains...
Post by: Tonka. on 04 April 2009, 21:36:30
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Sorry mate :-[

Worry not bud, worry not  :y
Title: Re: AR25 now AR35 and the problem remains...
Post by: jack68 on 04 April 2009, 22:00:33
I'm in Lincoln this weekend if you want a hand?

JACK
Title: Re: AR25 now AR35 and the problem remains...
Post by: iainb on 04 April 2009, 22:10:57
Did you disconnect the battery when you changed the box ?

Your fault sounds like it was held in the transmision memory somehow.

What you could try is to lock the POS & NEG battery leads together (battery disconnected)and leave for several hours and that should clear any stored memory.

Or get a tech 2 and see whats going on !
Title: Re: AR25 now AR35 and the problem remains...
Post by: Tonka. on 04 April 2009, 22:16:23
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I'm in Lincoln this weekend if you want a hand?

JACK

Thanks jack. Got it in, don't want to take it out again. Bloody heavy on the driveway  ;) :y
Title: Re: AR25 now AR35 and the problem remains...
Post by: Tonka. on 04 April 2009, 22:19:12
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Did you disconnect the battery when you changed the box ?

Your fault sounds like it was held in the transmision memory somehow.

What you could try is to lock the POS & NEG battery leads together (battery disconnected)and leave for several hours and that should clear any stored memory.

Or get a tech 2 and see whats going on !

Had it on TechII (Marks DTM) last week. Showed a gearbox fault (the AR25). Classic thrust bearing failure.

I can lock the leads together. Worth a try. Thanks  :y :y

Title: Re: AR25 now AR35 and the problem remains...
Post by: jack68 on 04 April 2009, 22:23:44
No problem i'm around anyway and if you PM me i can give you my contact number.

JACK
Title: Re: AR25 now AR35 and the problem remains...
Post by: albitz on 04 April 2009, 22:27:50
Are you using the same torque converter?
Title: Re: AR25 now AR35 and the problem remains...
Post by: Tonka. on 04 April 2009, 22:29:09
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Are you using the same torque converter?

Yes. The one out of the AR25.  :-/
Title: Re: AR25 now AR35 and the problem remains...
Post by: TheBoy on 04 April 2009, 23:25:38
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Did you disconnect the battery when you changed the box ?

Your fault sounds like it was held in the transmision memory somehow.

What you could try is to lock the POS & NEG battery leads together (battery disconnected)and leave for several hours and that should clear any stored memory.

Or get a tech 2 and see whats going on !

Had it on TechII (Marks DTM) last week. Showed a gearbox fault (the AR25). Classic thrust bearing failure.

I can lock the leads together. Worth a try. Thanks  :y :y

What was the faultcode?
Title: Re: AR25 now AR35 and the problem remains...
Post by: Tonka. on 04 April 2009, 23:52:29
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Did you disconnect the battery when you changed the box ?

Your fault sounds like it was held in the transmision memory somehow.

What you could try is to lock the POS & NEG battery leads together (battery disconnected)and leave for several hours and that should clear any stored memory.

Or get a tech 2 and see whats going on !

Had it on TechII (Marks DTM) last week. Showed a gearbox fault (the AR25). Classic thrust bearing failure.

I can lock the leads together. Worth a try. Thanks  :y :y

What was the faultcode?

I don't know. maybe Mark remembers  ::)
Title: Re: AR25 now AR35. Thanks to OOF......
Post by: Tonka. on 11 April 2009, 09:33:16
Well its been a week now. Checked the level last Monday and topped up by about 150ml.

The box seems to have settled down and is performing as it should  ;D

Many thanks to you guys, mainly Marks DTM, for giving me the confidence to attack this daunting task. :y

Thanks to Mark and Chris for offering their time to supply and fit a new box.  :y
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 8-) 8-) :y

Title: Re: AR25 now AR35 and the problem remains...
Post by: feeutfo on 11 April 2009, 09:51:22
good news. So what are we saving with this? Ecu held the fault and its now adapted? (adaptions being part of the learning process on other make boxs, not hurd of this re omegas so far)
Glad its fixed though. :-)
Title: Re: AR25 now AR35 and the problem remains...
Post by: Pitchfork on 11 April 2009, 10:09:51
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good news. So what are we saving with this? Ecu held the fault and its now adapted? (adaptions being part of the learning process on other make boxs, not hurd of this re omegas so far)
Glad its fixed though. :-)
Douglas Hurd drives an Omega? ;D
Title: Re: AR25 now AR35 and the problem remains...
Post by: feeutfo on 11 April 2009, 11:10:01
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good news. So what are we saving with this? Ecu held the fault and its now adapted? (adaptions being part of the learning process on other make boxs, not hurd of this re omegas so far)
Glad its fixed though. :-)
Douglas Hurd drives an Omega? ;D

So i here ;D....bloody musicians.... ;)

Title: Re: AR25 now AR35 and the problem remains...
Post by: Tonka. on 11 April 2009, 11:24:53
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good news. So what are we saving with this? Ecu held the fault and its now adapted? (adaptions being part of the learning process on other make boxs, not hurd of this re omegas so far)
Glad its fixed though. :-)

I did link the pos and neg cables together overnight. Whether this helped matters I do not know.

I'm glad the buggers fixed too  ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: AR25 now AR35 and the problem remains...
Post by: Pitchfork on 11 April 2009, 11:27:56
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good news. So what are we saving with this? Ecu held the fault and its now adapted? (adaptions being part of the learning process on other make boxs, not hurd of this re omegas so far)
Glad its fixed though. :-)
Douglas Hurd drives an Omega? ;D

So i here ;D....bloody musicians.... ;)

Thank you - I don't get called that too often because I play the melodeon!! :D
Title: Re: AR25 now AR35 and the problem remains...
Post by: feeutfo on 11 April 2009, 11:32:34
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good news. So what are we saving with this? Ecu held the fault and its now adapted? (adaptions being part of the learning process on other make boxs, not hurd of this re omegas so far)
Glad its fixed though. :-)

I did link the pos and neg cables together overnight. Whether this helped matters I do not know.

I'm glad the buggers fixed too  ;D ;D :y


thought we where in for another unlucky alf episode for a minute. ::)
Title: Re: AR25 now AR35 and the problem remains...
Post by: Tonka. on 11 April 2009, 11:36:21
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good news. So what are we saving with this? Ecu held the fault and its now adapted? (adaptions being part of the learning process on other make boxs, not hurd of this re omegas so far)
Glad its fixed though. :-)

I did link the pos and neg cables together overnight. Whether this helped matters I do not know.

I'm glad the buggers fixed too  ;D ;D :y


thought we where in for another unlucky alf episode for a minute. ::)

So did I. I was ready to sledge hammer the car  ::)