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Title: Tractor running like bag of spanners!!
Post by: largecol on 10 April 2009, 20:24:28
Hello guys, finally got leaky oil cooler sorted this week after Mig had been sitting for a fortnight feeling sorry for itself :'(. Did full oil and filter change, let her idle a little to warm, took her round the block then dipped and topped her up nicely. Jobs a good`un - or so i thought. 2 miles into a trip to the beach started hearing a ticking noise from engine. Pulled up for a look - definite loud metallic ticking coming from the top end, regular and rises with revs. And now it idles lumpy as crap. TBH i dont want to drive any further till i get to the bottom of it. Could it be oil starvation at the top end? Any suggestions welcome guys :y Really hoping its not terminal this time. :'( :'(
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Post by: Agemo on 10 April 2009, 23:43:42
I assume the oil light went out?
It does sound like oil starvation to me too.
Title: Re: Tractor running like bag of spanners!!
Post by: largecol on 11 April 2009, 01:24:40
Yep, oil light out, everything running sweet, till the noises and the rough running. :-/ :-/
Title: Re: Tractor running like bag of spanners!!
Post by: TheBoy on 11 April 2009, 10:28:52
Is it diesel knocking?
Title: Re: Tractor running like bag of spanners!!
Post by: largecol on 11 April 2009, 13:16:20
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Is it diesel knocking?
It could well be TB, but it seems louder and maybe only one cylinder? What would symptoms be - or have i already described them :-[. Are there knock sensors on this lump the same as petrol v6? Really not sure where to start on diesels - great when they work, pulling hair out when they dont!! :(
Title: Re: Tractor running like bag of spanners!!
Post by: Omegatoy on 11 April 2009, 20:05:39
if it appears to be only one cylinder, would be a good bet its a hydraulic lifter, oil flush new oil, and some wynns valve lifter additive usualy works, but it needs a good thrashing to get it all in there straight after i did a very fast thrash from oxford to swindon !!!! had similar on mine first few thousand i had it did this and its never returned although when cold its always a bit clattery once its warm it is very quiet
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Title: Re: Tractor running like bag of spanners!!
Post by: largecol on 12 April 2009, 10:16:46
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if it appears to be only one cylinder, would be a good bet its a hydraulic lifter, oil flush new oil, and some wynns valve lifter additive usualy works, but it needs a good thrashing to get it all in there straight after i did a very fast thrash from oxford to swindon !!!! had similar on mine first few thousand i had it did this and its never returned although when cold its always a bit clattery once its warm it is very quiet
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Is it wise to use flushing oil in a diesel? Heard a couple of tales saying it makes things worse. Also not sure i want to rev too high as its quite a new and worrying noise to me!
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Title: Re: Tractor running like bag of spanners!!
Post by: Omegatoy on 12 April 2009, 11:49:41
lol revving  up is yor choice i cznt hear the noise, however flushing  is a must for cleaning ask the boy! its what cured his overheating problems on his tractor, I do mine at least once every 15k!!
Title: Re: Tractor running like bag of spanners!!
Post by: largecol on 12 April 2009, 11:55:49
Well if its good enough for TheBoy, its good enough for me!! I`ll report back any progress :y :y
Title: Re: Tractor running like bag of spanners!!
Post by: TheBoy on 12 April 2009, 13:16:44
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Well if its good enough for TheBoy, its good enough for me!! I`ll report back any progress :y :y
If the car has had a history of poor oil servicing - and most have - then a flush can be a very worthwhile exercise.  I know what you mean about the dangers of flushing, but sometimes it is worth the risk, as a lot of the small oilways in the TD can start to clog.

I recommend that stuff that Omegatoy got me, reckon it would strip the paint off the bodywork, but follow the instructions to the letter! Follow that with a quickish oil change (say after 100miles or so), then put in the lifter treatment.
Title: Re: Tractor running like bag of spanners!!
Post by: TheBoy on 12 April 2009, 13:18:20
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lol revving  up is yor choice i cznt hear the noise, however flushing  is a must for cleaning ask the boy! its what cured his overheating problems on his tractor, I do mine at least once every 15k!!
I think with the regular oil changes that yours and my old tractor - which I miss - get, subsequent flushing is probably not necessary :y
Title: Re: Tractor running like bag of spanners!!
Post by: largecol on 12 April 2009, 14:05:28
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Well if its good enough for TheBoy, its good enough for me!! I`ll report back any progress :y :y
If the car has had a history of poor oil servicing - and most have - then a flush can be a very worthwhile exercise.  I know what you mean about the dangers of flushing, but sometimes it is worth the risk, as a lot of the small oilways in the TD can start to clog.

I recommend that stuff that Omegatoy got me, reckon it would strip the paint off the bodywork, but follow the instructions to the letter! Follow that with a quickish oil change (say after 100miles or so), then put in the lifter treatment.
Ok nice one TB, i`ve had the motor just over 2 years and its had 3 oil changes over 10k. (thought i was being good compared with VX schedule - till i was educated by your good selves :y) Whats this evil stuff called that i need?
Title: Re: Tractor running like bag of spanners!!
Post by: TheBoy on 12 April 2009, 16:52:41
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Well if its good enough for TheBoy, its good enough for me!! I`ll report back any progress :y :y
If the car has had a history of poor oil servicing - and most have - then a flush can be a very worthwhile exercise.  I know what you mean about the dangers of flushing, but sometimes it is worth the risk, as a lot of the small oilways in the TD can start to clog.

I recommend that stuff that Omegatoy got me, reckon it would strip the paint off the bodywork, but follow the instructions to the letter! Follow that with a quickish oil change (say after 100miles or so), then put in the lifter treatment.
Ok nice one TB, i`ve had the motor just over 2 years and its had 3 oil changes over 10k. (thought i was being good compared with VX schedule - till i was educated by your good selves :y) Whats this evil stuff called that i need?
Can't remember  :-[, sure Omegatoy will see this and comment :y
Title: Re: Tractor running like bag of spanners!!
Post by: Omegatoy on 12 April 2009, 18:30:05
stuff i gpt you was trade only,he near future wont be able to supply it till im back in uk, unless you see C hris?but forte is amost as good so i would recommend  to use that this isd not a flushing oil but a flushing additive that you add to the oil, when done drop old oil and refill with fresh and new filter should help !! :y

edit, would also add desel magic trick will help if its a dribbley injector!!! :y
Title: Re: Tractor running like bag of spanners!!
Post by: TheBoy on 12 April 2009, 18:35:51
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stuff i gpt you was trade only,he near future wont be able to supply it till im back in uk, unless you see C hris?but forte is amost as good so i would recommend  to use that this isd not a flushing oil but a flushing additive that you add to the oil, when done drop old oil and refill with fresh and new filter should help !! :y

edit, would also add desel magic trick will help if its a dribbley injector!!! :y
doubt i'll be seeing Chris until August :o  :-X
Title: Re: Tractor running like bag of spanners!!
Post by: largecol on 12 April 2009, 19:17:47
Thanks for that chaps, watch this space for progress. :y :y