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Title: Wheel nuts advice
Post by: chrisdb on 11 April 2009, 09:52:29
Hi all

The primate who changed my wish bones seems to have torqued the front wheels the same as the wish bones.  >:( By using a 4' extension and being very careful I managed to loosen the nuts on one wheel.

However, not so lucky with the locking nut - the lock nut key has three prongs, and one by one each prong snapped.

I will get a new lock nut key next week but how would you suggest that I go about getting this lock nut loose? I thought maybe go to a tyre garage and try with their impact wrench...

Any ideas welcome!
Title: Re: Wheel nuts advice
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 11 April 2009, 10:06:46
I have heard people saying they have chiseled wheel locking nuts off but I didn't fancy that idea. What I did was to hammer my deep impact socket over the locking wheel nut, then got my breaker bar and it came off no problem and no hammer marks on my wheels :y

Then didn't fit locking wheel nuts again ;)
Title: Re: Wheel nuts advice
Post by: Agemo on 11 April 2009, 10:07:32
The obvious answer is to let the bloke who tightened them do it.  ::)
If you are stuck, all is not lost. I had this problem once when my Nephew bought a car with studs he  had no key for, after struggling for over an hour, I had to give up. I took it to my local tyre fitters, who removed all four within five minutes! They would not let me see what kit they used, but I think it cost me a fiver!  
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Title: Re: Wheel nuts advice
Post by: chrisdb on 11 April 2009, 10:11:47
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I have heard people saying they have chiseled wheel locking nuts off but I didn't fancy that idea. What I did was to hammer my deep impact socket over the locking wheel nut, then got my breaker bar and it came off no problem and no hammer marks on my wheels :y

Then didn't fit locking wheel nuts again ;)

Good idea! I don't think I'll go this route though, cos they are on so tight that it might just round off the locking nut ...
Title: Re: Wheel nuts advice
Post by: chrisdb on 11 April 2009, 10:13:31
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The obvious answer is to let the bloke who tightened them do it.  ::)
If you are stuck, all is not lost. I had this problem once when my Nephew bought a car with studs he  had no key for, after struggling for over an hour, I had to give up. I took it to my local tyre fitters, who removed all four within five minutes! They would not let me see what kit they used, but I think it cost me a fiver!  
 :y

It was quite a few months ago now. He might just get stroppy and I'm trying to keep stick to my anger management regime 'cos I'm in danger of dying you of a heart atack ;D Maybe will go to the local fitters!
Title: Re: Wheel nuts advice
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 11 April 2009, 10:19:13
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I have heard people saying they have chiseled wheel locking nuts off but I didn't fancy that idea. What I did was to hammer my deep impact socket over the locking wheel nut, then got my breaker bar and it came off no problem and no hammer marks on my wheels :y

Then didn't fit locking wheel nuts again ;)

Good idea! I don't think I'll go this route though, cos they are on so tight that it might just round off the locking nut ...

But if you use a hexagon socket and hammer it on you create a new size if that makes sense, you will only round it off if you use to bigger socket. Pretty sure I used a 17mm socket and haven't had one round off yet.. :) But obviously its up to you, also if you are wanting to use the lock nut again after, I didn't ;)
Title: Re: Wheel nuts advice
Post by: chrisdb on 11 April 2009, 10:27:11
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I have heard people saying they have chiseled wheel locking nuts off but I didn't fancy that idea. What I did was to hammer my deep impact socket over the locking wheel nut, then got my breaker bar and it came off no problem and no hammer marks on my wheels :y

Then didn't fit locking wheel nuts again ;)

Good idea! I don't think I'll go this route though, cos they are on so tight that it might just round off the locking nut ...

But if you use a hexagon socket and hammer it on you create a new size if that makes sense, you will only round it off if you use to bigger socket. Pretty sure I used a 17mm socket and haven't had one round off yet.. :) But obviously its up to you, also if you are wanting to use the lock nut again after, I didn't ;)

That makes sense. IIRC the wheel nuts are 17mm too. I've got spare wheel nuts - I don't think people bother to steal Omega wheels do they?  ;D
Title: Re: Wheel nuts advice
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 11 April 2009, 10:30:52
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I have heard people saying they have chiseled wheel locking nuts off but I didn't fancy that idea. What I did was to hammer my deep impact socket over the locking wheel nut, then got my breaker bar and it came off no problem and no hammer marks on my wheels :y

Then didn't fit locking wheel nuts again ;)

Good idea! I don't think I'll go this route though, cos they are on so tight that it might just round off the locking nut ...

But if you use a hexagon socket and hammer it on you create a new size if that makes sense, you will only round it off if you use to bigger socket. Pretty sure I used a 17mm socket and haven't had one round off yet.. :) But obviously its up to you, also if you are wanting to use the lock nut again after, I didn't ;)

That makes sense. IIRC the wheel nuts are 17mm too. I've got spare wheel nuts - I don't think people bother to steal Omega wheels do they?  ;D

Locking wheel nuts will be bigger than the normal wheel nuts though mate, a 19mm socket may go on but this started to round off when I did mine, so thats why I used a 17mm and hammered it on. Came off without problem just make sure the socket is hammered on fully not just the edge :y
Title: Re: Wheel nuts advice
Post by: Elite Pete on 11 April 2009, 10:36:01
These are you best bet, atleast you won't damage your wheel

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_196491_langId_-1_categoryId_165469
Title: Re: Wheel nuts advice
Post by: chrisdb on 11 April 2009, 10:39:09
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I have heard people saying they have chiseled wheel locking nuts off but I didn't fancy that idea. What I did was to hammer my deep impact socket over the locking wheel nut, then got my breaker bar and it came off no problem and no hammer marks on my wheels :y

Then didn't fit locking wheel nuts again ;)

Good idea! I don't think I'll go this route though, cos they are on so tight that it might just round off the locking nut ...

But if you use a hexagon socket and hammer it on you create a new size if that makes sense, you will only round it off if you use to bigger socket. Pretty sure I used a 17mm socket and haven't had one round off yet.. :) But obviously its up to you, also if you are wanting to use the lock nut again after, I didn't ;)

That makes sense. IIRC the wheel nuts are 17mm too. I've got spare wheel nuts - I don't think people bother to steal Omega wheels do they?  ;D

Locking wheel nuts will be bigger than the normal wheel nuts though mate, a 19mm socket may go on but this started to round off when I did mine, so thats why I used a 17mm and hammered it on. Came off without problem just make sure the socket is hammered on fully not just the edge :y

Thanks mate :y
Title: Re: Wheel nuts advice
Post by: Andy B on 11 April 2009, 11:49:56
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These are you best bet, atleast you won't damage your wheel

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_196491_langId_-1_categoryId_165469

That's what the local ATS used on my original locking bolts with a windy gun
Title: Re: Wheel nuts advice
Post by: over50now on 11 April 2009, 14:02:17
screwfix sell them also
Title: Re: Wheel nuts advice
Post by: chrisdb on 11 April 2009, 18:17:16
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These are you best bet, atleast you won't damage your wheel

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_196491_langId_-1_categoryId_165469

WOW! Cheers Pete - that's awesome. Never seen these before. I've just had a whisky otherwise I would have dashed out to Halfords. I'll go get this in the morning!
Title: Re: Wheel nuts advice
Post by: chrisdb on 11 April 2009, 18:18:01
Cheers guys  :y
Title: Re: Wheel nuts advice
Post by: unlucky mark mv6 on 11 April 2009, 20:17:43
Pop down to your local argos,and buy yourself a wheel nut remover that you plug into your fag lighter,they are brilliant,and i wouldent leave home without one now.I think they are about £40,and are made by rac.These are alot less hassle when removing wheel nuts,because it always fits square on wheel nut,which eliminates rounding off your bolts.
Title: Re: Wheel nuts advice
Post by: chrisdb on 11 April 2009, 20:46:21
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Pop down to your local argos,and buy yourself a wheel nut remover that you plug into your fag lighter,they are brilliant,and i wouldent leave home without one now.I think they are about £40,and are made by rac.These are alot less hassle when removing wheel nuts,because it always fits square on wheel nut,which eliminates rounding off your bolts.
Could not find this but they do have an inpact wrench which I've reserved now. Will get this and the locking nut remover tomorrow - it'ss be just like Christmas ;D
Title: Re: Wheel nuts advice
Post by: chrisdb on 14 April 2009, 19:45:16
Thanks guys! (and Lizzie Zoom ;D)

Got the wheel nut remover from Argos. Brilliant tool - made light work of the wheel nuts. Got the wheel nut removal socket too, but alas, the locking nut had a spinning outer shell. Sorted eventually. Used a small cold chisel to strip off the outer shell, then took Loo-Knee's advice and hammered on a 17mm impact socket. Soon had it off. Took me 45 minutes to get the nut out of the socket and then did the same on the second wheel.

The guy in the garage told me that the locking nuts I had are around 10 years old so I would not be able to get a new key, so I got a new set, and they are really cool. It's got a shape like a butterfly on it ;D I'll make sure I keet the key number because I don't think the socket trick will work on these little gems!

Anyway, used everyone's advice so cheers!
Title: Re: Wheel nuts advice
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 14 April 2009, 20:15:10
Glad we all helped  :y