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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Spike on 15 April 2009, 14:22:41
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I'm almost lost for words..
I went into the local Vauxhall 'stealer' asking for some manual gearbox oil and some diff oil for my 2.2 51 plate diesel mig....
"Oooh" came the reply, with a sucking of the teeth. "That's normally done through the workshop, I've not sold gearbox oil to a customer in 5 years"
'Oh', says I. 'here's my reg number can you tell me the part number for the stuff I need as I don't want to mix the wrong types together...'
"sorry, son" came the reply "our system doesn't tell us that. What gearbox do you have?"
'Eh?' says I, 'can't you tell from the , reg, chassis number etc.'
"Erm, no" came the reply.
'It's a 5 speed manual one as it's a 2.2 diesel' Says I.
"They do different ones you know"
'Hmm', was all I could say.
Is it me? Or should this be a really simple question to answer?...
So after 10 mintes, my old Haynes manual and the handbook for god's sake
This is what he came up with
Part: 93165388 Diff Oil at a staggering £40+ per litre!
Part: 93165290 gearbox oil at ~£4 per litre
Are these even remotely close to what I need?
So some specific questions:
Do I need the specific manual gearbox oil recommended by Vauxhall to change the oil?
If so what is it?
How much do the box take? 1L?
Do I need to flush it (by draining, filling to the fill hole with the new oil. driving, draining and then filling to the fill level (9mm below the fill hole)) as described in Haynes; or can I just drain and fill?
What diff oil do I need?
Is it really £40 a litre for the Vx stuff?
Finally, track rod adjuster 'tubes'. Are they available on their own or will I need the two ball joints and the tube thing in the middle as one item? Mine's seized on both sides and I need the tracking sorting. :-/
Cheers
Spike
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Go to www.opieoils.co.uk and register against OOF (for discount :y)
Do a search aginst your car and they will come back with the recommended oil types.
For the gearbox oil, go for the best they have got!
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Ow yes, gearbox holds about 1.2 litres and you shoudl not need to flush it (yours would have the later synthetic stuff in anyway), diff is a simalar amount
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I am afraid Spike you have got there one of the many crap Vx dealers around who do not know really what they are doing, especially if the car is an ex production model like the Omega!
They just do not want to know!!
Find yourself a 'good' Vx dealer (yes they do exist!) who really does want to assist you.
I fortunately have one of those who is still keen to deal with the Omega, and is usually very reliable, trustworthy, and gives me full discounts! 8-) 8-) :y. However, even them I have to watch carefully to ensure they do not sell me the wrong product!! ::) ::)
PS Are you in the South-East?? :-?
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The ulitmate gearbox oil appears to be
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-832-silkolene-pro-srg-75-full-ester-synthetic-ester-racing-gear-oil.aspx
And for the diff I use BOA90LS, this is officialy for LSD's but the friction modifier appears to help prevent leaks
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-773-silkolene-boa-90-ls-high-performance-gear-and-limited-slip-differential-oil.aspx
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I am afraid Spike you have got there one of the many crap Vx dealers around who do not know really what they are doing, especially if the car is an ex production model like the Omega!
They just do not want to know!!
Find yourself a 'good' Vx dealer (yes they do exist!) who really does want to assist you.
I fortunately have one of those who is still keen to deal with the Omega, and is usually very reliable, trustworthy, and gives me full discounts! 8-) 8-) :y. However, even them I have to watch carefully to ensure they do not sell me the wrong product!! ::) ::)
PS Are you in the South-East?? :-?
Where in the south east have you found a Vx dealer that knows what they are doing Lizzie..
My local one (Greens of Rainham) shut a few months ago, not that they were that smart...
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I am afraid Spike you have got there one of the many crap Vx dealers around who do not know really what they are doing, especially if the car is an ex production model like the Omega!
They just do not want to know!!
Find yourself a 'good' Vx dealer (yes they do exist!) who really does want to assist you.
I fortunately have one of those who is still keen to deal with the Omega, and is usually very reliable, trustworthy, and gives me full discounts! 8-) 8-) :y. However, even them I have to watch carefully to ensure they do not sell me the wrong product!! ::) ::)
PS Are you in the South-East?? :-?
Where in the south east have you found a Vx dealer that knows what they are doing Lizzie..
My local one (Greens of Rainham) shut a few months ago, not that they were that smart...
The Caffyns Vauxhall Dealership on Orbital Park, Ashford Weds. 8-) 8-)
In particular I have found Matthew Pullen of the parts dept., extremely helpful, even to the extent of giving me full discount when I first went there without my ABS TC! :y
Don't know anything about the servicing dept though as I have not used them................and at £75 per hour labour I am in no hurry to do so unless I'm ill!! ::) ::) ;)
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Ha, there's a blast from the past, i used to use Greens of Rainham when i lived in Medway. They were appalling when i went there with my Carlton Diplomat....
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I use Pompreys at Sittingbourne...very helpfull..parts are allways next day and they give full discount with a card..they even ring you the next day to let you know theyt are in stock.Can,t comment about there workmanship but have seen several Omegas in the workshop.
And as for Greens...well it says it all..just sorry for the work force.
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I am afraid Spike you have got there one of the many crap Vx dealers around who do not know really what they are doing, especially if the car is an ex production model like the Omega!
They just do not want to know!!
Find yourself a 'good' Vx dealer (yes they do exist!) who really does want to assist you.
I fortunately have one of those who is still keen to deal with the Omega, and is usually very reliable, trustworthy, and gives me full discounts! 8-) 8-) :y. However, even them I have to watch carefully to ensure they do not sell me the wrong product!! ::) ::)
PS Are you in the South-East?? :-?
Where in the south east have you found a Vx dealer that knows what they are doing Lizzie..
My local one (Greens of Rainham) shut a few months ago, not that they were that smart...
The Caffyns Vauxhall Dealership on Orbital Park, Ashford Weds. 8-) 8-)
In particular I have found Matthew Pullen of the parts dept., extremely helpful, even to the extent of giving me full discount when I first went there without my ABS TC! :y
Don't know anything about the servicing dept though as I have not used them................and at £75 per hour labour I am in no hurry to do so unless I'm ill!! ::) ::) ;)
i bet you can flutter your eyelids and get discount at most dealers Lizzie ;)
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They were appalling when i went there with my Carlton Diplomat....
I used to have one of those
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I am afraid Spike you have got there one of the many crap Vx dealers around who do not know really what they are doing, especially if the car is an ex production model like the Omega!
They just do not want to know!!
Find yourself a 'good' Vx dealer (yes they do exist!) who really does want to assist you.
I fortunately have one of those who is still keen to deal with the Omega, and is usually very reliable, trustworthy, and gives me full discounts! 8-) 8-) :y. However, even them I have to watch carefully to ensure they do not sell me the wrong product!! ::) ::)
PS Are you in the South-East?? :-?
Where in the south east have you found a Vx dealer that knows what they are doing Lizzie..
My local one (Greens of Rainham) shut a few months ago, not that they were that smart...
The Caffyns Vauxhall Dealership on Orbital Park, Ashford Weds. 8-) 8-)
In particular I have found Matthew Pullen of the parts dept., extremely helpful, even to the extent of giving me full discount when I first went there without my ABS TC! :y
Don't know anything about the servicing dept though as I have not used them................and at £75 per hour labour I am in no hurry to do so unless I'm ill!! ::) ::) ;)
i bet you can flutter your eyelids and get discount at most dealers Lizzie ;)
No, it is not my eyelids or face come to think about it! Frankly It is the low cut tops and my 38DD chest that does it Hereford Elite! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
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I am afraid Spike you have got there one of the many crap Vx dealers around who do not know really what they are doing, especially if the car is an ex production model like the Omega!
They just do not want to know!!
Find yourself a 'good' Vx dealer (yes they do exist!) who really does want to assist you.
I fortunately have one of those who is still keen to deal with the Omega, and is usually very reliable, trustworthy, and gives me full discounts! 8-) 8-) :y. However, even them I have to watch carefully to ensure they do not sell me the wrong product!! ::) ::)
PS Are you in the South-East?? :-?
Where in the south east have you found a Vx dealer that knows what they are doing Lizzie..
My local one (Greens of Rainham) shut a few months ago, not that they were that smart...
The Caffyns Vauxhall Dealership on Orbital Park, Ashford Weds. 8-) 8-)
In particular I have found Matthew Pullen of the parts dept., extremely helpful, even to the extent of giving me full discount when I first went there without my ABS TC! :y
Don't know anything about the servicing dept though as I have not used them................and at £75 per hour labour I am in no hurry to do so unless I'm ill!! ::) ::) ;)
i bet you can flutter your eyelids and get discount at most dealers Lizzie ;)
No, it is not my eyelids or face come to think about it! Frankly It is the low cut tops and my 38DD chest that does it Hereford Elite! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
Don't go fluttering those Lizzie -- you'll have an eye out !!!! :o
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They were appalling when i went there with my Carlton Diplomat....
I used to have one of those
Damn nice comfortable car that was, probably the fond memories of that car that prompted me to get an omega in the first place.
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No, it is not my eyelids or face come to think about it! Frankly It is the low cut tops and my 38DD chest that does it Hereford Elite!
That's what fantasies are made of!! :o :o
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I am afraid Spike you have got there one of the many crap Vx dealers around who do not know really what they are doing, especially if the car is an ex production model like the Omega!
They just do not want to know!!
Find yourself a 'good' Vx dealer (yes they do exist!) who really does want to assist you.
I fortunately have one of those who is still keen to deal with the Omega, and is usually very reliable, trustworthy, and gives me full discounts! 8-) 8-) :y. However, even them I have to watch carefully to ensure they do not sell me the wrong product!! ::) ::)
PS Are you in the South-East?? :-?
Where in the south east have you found a Vx dealer that knows what they are doing Lizzie..
My local one (Greens of Rainham) shut a few months ago, not that they were that smart...
The Caffyns Vauxhall Dealership on Orbital Park, Ashford Weds. 8-) 8-)
In particular I have found Matthew Pullen of the parts dept., extremely helpful, even to the extent of giving me full discount when I first went there without my ABS TC! :y
Don't know anything about the servicing dept though as I have not used them................and at £75 per hour labour I am in no hurry to do so unless I'm ill!! ::) ::) ;)
i bet you can flutter your eyelids and get discount at most dealers Lizzie ;)
No, it is not my eyelids or face come to think about it! Frankly It is the low cut tops and my 38DD chest that does it Hereford Elite! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
well i had an inkling :-[ but didn't like to say ;)
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And this is why women really are the true brokers of power ;) :) :)
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And this is why women really do rule the world ;) :) :)
women don't rule the world...boobs do ;)
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regarding your tracking your best bet would be to have your traking done .they will probaly have to heat up ur adjusters to free them .i have just paid twenty pounds to have my elite estate done. it was well out .and he lubed my adjusters .most tyre and exhaust garages will do it for you .hope it helps :y
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regarding your tracking your best bet would be to have your traking done .they will probaly have to heat up ur (I'm just lazy, can't be bothered to type 'you are') adjusters to free them .i have just paid twenty pounds to have my elite estate done. it was well out .and he lubed my adjusters .most tyre and exhaust garages will do it for you .hope it helps :y
Tracking really is not worth the money, you need full geometry as the Omega has adjustable front and trear track and front camber.
Its the camber that eats (often the inside edge) of the tyre.
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regarding your tracking your best bet would be to have your traking done .they will probaly have to heat up ur (I'm just lazy, can't be bothered to type 'you are') (I'm just lazy, can't be bothered to type 'you are') adjusters to free them .i have just paid twenty pounds to have my elite estate done. it was well out .and he lubed my adjusters .most tyre and exhaust garages will do it for you .hope it helps :y
Tracking really is not worth the money, you need full geometry as the Omega has adjustable front and trear track and front camber.
Its the camber that eats (often the inside edge) of the tyre.
Does the camber need replacement or the full geometry takes care of it? I thought the inside edge of the tyre was to do with the wishbones?
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regarding your tracking your best bet would be to have your traking done .they will probaly have to heat up ur (I'm just lazy, can't be bothered to type 'you are') (I'm just lazy, can't be bothered to type 'you are') (I'm just lazy, can't be bothered to type 'you are') adjusters to free them .i have just paid twenty pounds to have my elite estate done. it was well out .and he lubed my adjusters .most tyre and exhaust garages will do it for you .hope it helps :y
Tracking really is not worth the money, you need full geometry as the Omega has adjustable front and trear track and front camber.
Its the camber that eats (often the inside edge) of the tyre.
Does the camber need replacement or the full geometry takes care of it? I thought the inside edge of the tyre was to do with the wishbones?
It is to do with the wishbones - the bushes wear and cause the camber to drift out of spec.
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Thanks.
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regarding your tracking your best bet would be to have your traking done .they will probaly have to heat up ur (I'm just lazy, can't be bothered to type 'you are') (I'm just lazy, can't be bothered to type 'you are') (I'm just lazy, can't be bothered to type 'you are') (I'm just lazy, can't be bothered to type 'you are') adjusters to free them .i have just paid twenty pounds to have my elite estate done. it was well out .and he lubed my adjusters .most tyre and exhaust garages will do it for you .hope it helps :y
Tracking really is not worth the money, you need full geometry as the Omega has adjustable front and trear track and front camber.
Its the camber that eats (often the inside edge) of the tyre.
Does the camber need replacement or the full geometry takes care of it? I thought the inside edge of the tyre was to do with the wishbones?
It is to do with the wishbones - the bushes wear and cause the camber to drift out of spec.
Nah, wishbones will affec the toe more....its the springs ageing which affects the ride hieght that has the biggest impact on camber
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"Oooh" came the reply, with a sucking of the teeth. "That's normally done through the workshop, I've not sold gearbox oil to a customer in 5 years"
...
This is what he came up with
Part: 93165388 Diff Oil at a staggering £40+ per litre!
Part: 93165290 gearbox oil at ~£4 per litre
I wonder why he hasn't sold any..
Actually I doubt many people change manual box and diff oil - they are not as far as I am aware specified in the service schedule.
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regarding your tracking your best bet would be to have your traking done .they will probaly have to heat up ur (I'm just lazy, can't be bothered to type 'you are') (I'm just lazy, can't be bothered to type 'you are') (I'm just lazy, can't be bothered to type 'you are') (I'm just lazy, can't be bothered to type 'you are') (I'm just lazy, can't be bothered to type 'you are') adjusters to free them .i have just paid twenty pounds to have my elite estate done. it was well out .and he lubed my adjusters .most tyre and exhaust garages will do it for you .hope it helps :y
Tracking really is not worth the money, you need full geometry as the Omega has adjustable front and trear track and front camber.
Its the camber that eats (often the inside edge) of the tyre.
Does the camber need replacement or the full geometry takes care of it? I thought the inside edge of the tyre was to do with the wishbones?
It is to do with the wishbones - the bushes wear and cause the camber to drift out of spec.
Nah, wishbones will affec the toe more....its the springs ageing which affects the ride hieght that has the biggest impact on camber
Insides of my front tyre are almost bald - I was planning to replace the wishbones. Should I instead replace the springs? TIA
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Check the wishbones (replace if requried) and get the camber reset to -1deg 10'
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Thanks, Mark. I do plan to get the wishbones replaced. Are the wishbones same across pre-facelift/ mini-facelift / post-facelift?
fleebay has a loads of them but I am not sure which ones to pick. Should I consider used parts or a new one?
Ta
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The ulitmate gearbox oil appears to be
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-832-silkolene-pro-srg-75-full-ester-synthetic-ester-racing-gear-oil.aspx
And for the diff I use BOA90LS, this is officialy for LSD's but the friction modifier appears to help prevent leaks
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-773-silkolene-boa-90-ls-high-performance-gear-and-limited-slip-differential-oil.aspx
Many thanks for the info. Oils ordered. Membership discount to boot ;D
I've bought some new tie rods and will get my geometry sorted. Camber's been done, but need to go back and get the toe sorted and stop my car turning left all the time...
Looks like I've got a busy weekend ahead as the oil and filter needs a change as well, then there's the brake fluid...... Been an expensive week this week.