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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Nickbat on 15 April 2009, 14:29:49
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I will soon need new boots on my 2.6CD. At the moment I appear to have Michelin Primacy 225-65 R16 Vs all round. These came with the car. However, the unused spare is a Firestone 205-65 R16 V. How come it's different, I wonder?
So, 225 or 205? Which is right?
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The spare will be an R15 not an R16....
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The spare will be an R15 not an R16....
You're right, Mark. One of these days you are going to be wrong about something...perhaps. ;) ;D ;D ;D
So, my spare is a 205-65 R15 and I have 225-65 R16s at each corner. When I get a quote for 4 new tyres which do I ask for, 205s or 225s?
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The spare will be an R15 not an R16....
You're right, Mark. One of these days you are going to be wrong about something...perhaps. ;) ;D ;D ;D
So, my spare is a 205-65 R15 and I have 225-65 R16s at each corner. When I get a quote for 4 new tyres which do I ask for, 205s or 225s?
225-55 R16 W rated.....dont get Michelins!
I like the Dunlop SP9000 and had good results from the Kumho Ku31's to
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The spare will be an R15 not an R16....
You're right, Mark. One of these days you are going to be wrong about something...perhaps. ;) ;D ;D ;D
So, my spare is a 205-65 R15 and I have 225-65 R16s at each corner. When I get a quote for 4 new tyres which do I ask for, 205s or 225s?
225-55 R16 W rated.....dont get Michelins!
I like the Dunlop SP9000 and had good results from the Kumho Ku31's to
Weren't they on the car you couldnt stop in time to avoid a crash?
;D ;D ;D ;D
Sorry mate, couldnt resist ;D ;D ;D
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Lol, your assuming I wanted to stop and not simply to move
the daft bitch her on
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The spare will be an R15 not an R16....
You're right, Mark. One of these days you are going to be wrong about something...perhaps. ;) ;D ;D ;D
So, my spare is a 205-65 R15 and I have 225-65 R16s at each corner. When I get a quote for 4 new tyres which do I ask for, 205s or 225s?
225-55 R16 W rated.....dont get Michelins!
I like the Dunlop SP9000 and had good results from the Kumho Ku31's to
I'm not sure why you recommend the 55 (tyre height/aspect) rather than the 60. Would it make for a better ride/handling?
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225/55-16s are the proper size , and you'll find that 60s and especially 65s will throw your speedo out by a fair bit :).
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225 is the tyre width.
55 or 65 is the height of the sidewall expressed as a percentage of the width.
15 or 16 is the wheel rim diameter.
When the whole tyre size sum is calculated out to a diameter or a rolling circumference, the change various sizes/percentages interplay on each other.
All explained here:
http://www.carbibles.com/tyre_bible.html
with a good calculator to compare tyre and rim sizes further on..... ;)
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http://www.alloywheels.com/tyrecalc.asp
You can use this to calculate the different sizes :y.
With Nickbats current setup his speedo is approx. 5 MPH SLOW :-?.
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http://www.alloywheels.com/tyrecalc.asp
You can use this to calculate the different sizes :y.
With Nickbats current setup his speedo is approx. 5 MPH SLOW :-?.
Aha! So that's why I haven't had a NIP for a while! ;) ;D
Thanks for the info, guys. :y
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Well at least it keeps you honest ;D.
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Avon/cooper are good boots to and don't cost the earth on coopers you get a very high comprehensive cover of customer satisfaction ie if you damage one buy going up a cub for example it will be changed for free you just pay for valve re-balance etc and this lasts for 2 years no questions asked :y
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Avon/cooper are good boots to and don't cost the earth on coopers you get a very high comprehensive cover of customer satisfaction ie if you damage one buy going up a cub for example it will be changed for free you just pay for valve re-balance etc and this lasts for 2 years no questions asked :y
Thanks for that. :y
I've heard of Avon tyres but not Avon/Cooper. I'll do a Google search.
BTW, Mark recommended a W rating. Would a V rating be sufficient? I don't drive that fast these days. ;)
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Avon/cooper are good boots to and don't cost the earth on coopers you get a very high comprehensive cover of customer satisfaction ie if you damage one buy going up a cub for example it will be changed for free you just pay for valve re-balance etc and this lasts for 2 years no questions asked :y
Thanks for that. :y
I've heard of Avon tyres but not Avon/Cooper. I'll do a Google search.
BTW, Mark recommended a W rating. Would a V rating be sufficient? I don't drive that fast these days. ;)
Aha! I see Avon and Cooper are two different manufacturers. I'll check prices. Thanks again. :y
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Er, forget the last comment. Avon Tyres are a propriety brand of Cooper Tires. All makes sense now. ;) :D
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Avon/cooper are good boots to and don't cost the earth on coopers you get a very high comprehensive cover of customer satisfaction ie if you damage one buy going up a cub for example it will be changed for free you just pay for valve re-balance etc and this lasts for 2 years no questions asked :y
Thanks for that. :y
I've heard of Avon tyres but not Avon/Cooper. I'll do a Google search.
BTW, Mark recommended a W rating. Would a V rating be sufficient? I don't drive that fast these days. ;)
Aha! I see Avon and Cooper are two different manufacturers. I'll check prices. Thanks again. :y
cooper is the sister company in the uk of avon usa
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Avon/cooper are good boots to and don't cost the earth on coopers you get a very high comprehensive cover of customer satisfaction ie if you damage one buy going up a cub for example it will be changed for free you just pay for valve re-balance etc and this lasts for 2 years no questions asked :y
Thanks for that. :y
I've heard of Avon tyres but not Avon/Cooper. I'll do a Google search.
BTW, Mark recommended a W rating. Would a V rating be sufficient? I don't drive that fast these days. ;)
AFAIK it doesn't matter what speed you drive at.. the tyres must be suitable for the speeds the car can do ... so the makers specifications must be fitted or the insurers can refuse payouts in the event of an incident ... :(
Page 166 of
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.reynolds983/Manuals/Omega2002Manual.pdf
Gives the ratings
Pages 218, 219 give the performance figures
IMHO the 2 must match ..
The information on those pages implies that a V rated tyre .. 150 Mph is suitable as the top speed is less :)
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Avon/cooper are good boots to and don't cost the earth on coopers you get a very high comprehensive cover of customer satisfaction ie if you damage one buy going up a cub for example it will be changed for free you just pay for valve re-balance etc and this lasts for 2 years no questions asked :y
Do they still replace it if you go over a Boy Scout or a Brownie :D ;D ;D.
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Avon/cooper are good boots to and don't cost the earth on coopers you get a very high comprehensive cover of customer satisfaction ie if you damage one buy going up a cub for example it will be changed for free you just pay for valve re-balance etc and this lasts for 2 years no questions asked :y
Do they still replace it if you go over a Boy Scout or a Brownie :D ;D ;D.
thay are even more willing to plus cash back bonus :y ;D ;D ;D
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Avon/cooper are good boots to and don't cost the earth on coopers you get a very high comprehensive cover of customer satisfaction ie if you damage one buy going up a cub for example it will be changed for free you just pay for valve re-balance etc and this lasts for 2 years no questions asked :y
Do they still replace it if you go over a Boy Scout or a Brownie :D ;D ;D.
thay are even more willing to plus cash back bonus :y ;D ;D ;D
How much is the cash back, a bob(a job) ;D.
Sorry I'll get me coat :-X.
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Here are some test results that can be found on ADAC (Germany), OEMTC (Austria) and TCS (Switzerland) websites. They are equivalent of RAC in the UK:
Test from 2009 - 205/55 R 16 W:
*highly recommended:
Michelin Primacy HP
Continental PremiumContact 2
Nokian Z G2
Bridgestone Turanza ER300
Firestone TZ 300
Goodyear OptiGrip (V rated)
*recommended:
Dunlop SP Sport Fastresponse
Maloya Futura Sport
Uniroyal Rainsport 2
Fulda Carat Exellero
Semperit Speed-Life
Kumho Ecsta HM KH31
*recommended with reservations:
Hankook Ventus Prime K105
Matador Ultra Sport Hectorra 2
Avon ZV 5
*not recommended:
Mabor Sport-Jet 2
Syron Race 1
Test from 2008 - 195/65 R 15 V:
*highly recommended:
Pirelli P6
Bridgestone Turanza ER300
Vredestein Sportrac 3
Dunlop SP Sport Fastresponse
*recommended:
Michelin Energy Saver
Ceat Tornado
Continental PremiumContact 2
Maloya Futura Sport V
Yokohama C.drive
Fulda Carat Progresso
Firestone Firehawk TZ200 FS
Goodyear Excellence
Uniroyal rallye 550
Barum Bravuris 2
Nokian V
Hankook Ventus Prime K105
*recommended with reservations:
BFGoodrich Profiler 2
Toyo Proxes CF1
*not recommended:
Wanli S1095
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And some results from 2007/2006, different sizes:
*highly recommended:
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Pirelli P 6 195/65 R15H
Bridgestone Turanza 195/65 R15H
Maloya Futura Primato 195/65 R15H
Pirelli P7 205/55 R16 V
Bridgestone Touranza ER 300 205/55 R16 V
Continental PremiumContact 2 205/55 R16 V
Uniroyal ralley 550 205/55 R16 V
Vredestein Sportrac 3 205/55 R16 V
Dunlop SP Sport Fastresponse 205/55 R16 V
Bridgestone Potenza RE050A 225/45 R17 W/Y
Pirelli Pzero Nero 225/45 R17 W/Y
*recommended:
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Michelin Energy E3A 195/65 R15H
Vredestein Hi-Trac 195/65 R15H
Goodyear HydraGrip 195/65 R15H
Fulda Carat Attiro 195/65 R15H
Nokian NRHi Ecosport XL 195/65 R15H
Firestone Firehawk TZ 200 Fuel Saver 195/65 R15H
Semperit Speed Comfort 195/65 R15H
Michelin Primacy HP 205/55 R16 V
Fulda Carat Progresso 205/55 R16 V
Yokohama C.Drive 205/55 R16 V
Hankook Ventus Prime K105 205/55 R16 V
Goodyear Excellence 205/55 R16 V
Firestone Firehawk TZ200 FS 205/55 R16 V
Kumho Ecsta SPT 205/55 R16 V
Nokian NRVi/V 205/55 R16 V
Avon ZV 3 205/55 R16 V
Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 225/45 R17 W/Y
Continental SportContact 3 225/45 R17 W/Y
BFGoodrich G-Force Profiler 225/45 R17 W/Y
Goodyear Eagle F1 225/45 R17 W/Y
Dunlop Sport Maxx 225/45 R17 W/Y
Vredestein Ultrac 225/45 R17 W/Y
Uniroyal Rainsport 225/45 R17 W/Y
Kumho Ecsta KU19 225/45 R17 W/Y
Hankook Ventus Prime 225/45 R17 W/Y
Fulda Carat Exelero 225/45 R17 W/Y
*not recommended:
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Kleber Dynaxer HP2 195/65 R15H
Uniroyal rallye 550 195/65 R15H
Dunlop SP Sport 01 195/65 R15H
Avon ZV3 195/65 R15H
Nankang ULTRA SPORT NS-2 205/55 R16 V
Marangoni Vanto/Verso 205/55 R16 V
Falken Ziex ZE 512 205/55 R16 V
Semperit Direction Sport 225/45 R17 W/Y
Maloya Futura Sport W 225/45 R17 W/Y
Nokian Z 225/45 R17 W/Y
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http://www.alloywheels.com/tyrecalc.asp
You can use this to calculate the different sizes :y.
With Nickbats current setup his speedo is approx. 5 MPH SLOW[/b][/u] :-?.
Aha! So that's why I haven't had a NIP for a while! ;) ;D
Thanks for the info, guys. :y
NO :o
if you have been driving around with 225/65/16's rather than the stock size of 225/55/16 then your speedo is 6.9% TOO SLOW i.e. at a reading of 60mph on your speedo you are actualy doing 64.1mph :exclamation.
Personaly i have 225/50/16's on mine for reduced tyre wall roll and that fact that the speedo over reads by 3.4% so at 60 i'm really only doing 57.9mph (kinder on my licence ::))
edit:
50 profile tyres are marginaly cheaper as well because 225/55/16 is quite an uncommon size.
guess that 225/65/16's are cheaper still ::)
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http://www.alloywheels.com/tyrecalc.asp
You can use this to calculate the different sizes :y.
With Nickbats current setup his speedo is approx. 5 MPH SLOW[/b][/u] :-?.
Aha! So that's why I haven't had a NIP for a while! ;) ;D
Thanks for the info, guys. :y
NO :o
if you have been driving around with 225/65/16's rather than the stock size of 225/55/16 then your speedo is 6.9% TOO SLOW i.e. at a reading of 60mph on your speedo you are actualy doing 64.1mph :exclamation.
Personaly i have 225/50/16's on mine for reduced tyre wall roll and that fact that the speedo over reads by 3.4% so at 60 i'm really only doing 57.9mph (kinder on my licence ::))
edit:
50 profile tyres are marginaly cheaper as well because 225/55/16 is quite an uncommon size.
guess that 225/65/16's are cheaper still ::)
I must apologise to Nickbat, you're quite right H/elite it makes his speedo under(going faster than speedo shows) not over as i put the wrong tyre in the calculator 1st :-[.
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Here are some test results that can be found on ADAC (Germany), OEMTC (Austria) and TCS (Switzerland) websites. They are equivalent of RAC in the UK:
Test from 2009 - 205/55 R 16 W:
*highly recommended:
Michelin Primacy HP
Continental PremiumContact 2
Nokian Z G2
Bridgestone Turanza ER300
Firestone TZ 300
Goodyear OptiGrip (V rated)
*recommended:
Dunlop SP Sport Fastresponse
Maloya Futura Sport
Uniroyal Rainsport 2
Fulda Carat Exellero
Semperit Speed-Life
Kumho Ecsta HM KH31
*recommended with reservations:
Hankook Ventus Prime K105
Matador Ultra Sport Hectorra 2
Avon ZV 5
*not recommended:
Mabor Sport-Jet 2
Syron Race 1
Test from 2008 - 195/65 R 15 V:
*highly recommended:
Pirelli P6
Bridgestone Turanza ER300
Vredestein Sportrac 3
Dunlop SP Sport Fastresponse
*recommended:
Michelin Energy Saver
Ceat Tornado
Continental PremiumContact 2
Maloya Futura Sport V
Yokohama C.drive
Fulda Carat Progresso
Firestone Firehawk TZ200 FS
Goodyear Excellence
Uniroyal rallye 550
Barum Bravuris 2
Nokian V
Hankook Ventus Prime K105
*recommended with reservations:
BFGoodrich Profiler 2
Toyo Proxes CF1
*not recommended:
Wanli S1095
i had these boots a while back and would never touch them again they aqua plain like mad they are terrible boots in my honest experience