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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Mr Stud on 17 April 2009, 19:15:11
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looking at getting a caravan(god knows why must be mad)and was wondering if anyone knows the weight of a facelift mv6 and what weight i can go to for the caravan..
have looked about at some sites but finding it all confusing as they all saying different weights....
thanks.....
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All that info will be on your VIN plate (drivers door (B pillar) on the facelifts) :y
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seen that but whats the difference between kerb weight and gross weight...
useless at trying to understand it all,may as well be in french to me....
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There is an explanation in the FAQ section but the picture has been moved/lost in the ether.
Basically there are 4 weights, you can ignore the bottom 2. 1st is kerbside weight (full tank of fuel and an average weight driver), 2nd is Maximum train weight (I.E. car + passengers + fuel + pikey palace) all dependant on your driving license and you holding the appropriate categories.
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I towed a caravan for many years with the Omega, if you are new to it then go for the 85% rule, its not law but will guide you........85% rule is whatever your kerb weight is of your miggy keep the caravan weight at 85% of that when loaded.
an experienced caravanner can tow up to 100% of the cars kerb weight, do NOT ever go above this as it will be unsafe....tail wagging the dog.
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There is an explanation in the FAQ section but the picture has been moved/lost in the ether.
Basically there are 4 weights, you can ignore the bottom 2. 1st is kerbside weight (full tank of fuel and an average weight driver), 2nd is Maximum train weight (I.E. car + passengers + fuel + pikey palace) all dependant on your driving license and you holding the appropriate categories.
right just looked and the first weight says 2170 kgs....the next weight says 4020 kgs...so does that mean the max weight off the caravan can be no more that 1850 kgs...4020 kgs minus 2170 kgs equals 1850 kgs......
pikey palace ha ha ha like it ;D
I towed a caravan for many years with the Omega, if you are new to it then go for the 85% rule, its not law but will guide you........85% rule is whatever your kerb weight is of your miggy keep the caravan weight at 85% of that when loaded.
an experienced caravanner can tow up to 100% of the cars kerb weight, do NOT ever go above this as it will be unsafe....tail wagging the dog.
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85% off 2170 kgs is 1844.5 kgs so 1850 kgs about right
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There is an explanation in the FAQ section but the picture has been moved/lost in the ether.
Basically there are 4 weights, you can ignore the bottom 2. 1st is kerbside weight (full tank of fuel and an average weight driver), 2nd is Maximum train weight (I.E. car + passengers + fuel + pikey palace) all dependant on your driving license and you holding the appropriate categories.
right just looked and the first weight says 2170 kgs....the next weight says 4020 kgs...so does that mean the max weight off the caravan can be no more that 1850 kgs...4020 kgs minus 2170 kgs equals 1850 kgs......
pikey palace ha ha ha like it ;D
Have another look mate........you certainly cannot tow a caravan weighing 1850kg, off top of my head my 2.6 miggys kerb weight was around 1565kg, my caravan was 1200kg fully loaded and that was a Ace Award 5 berth.
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Is your miggy a 2.6 or a 3.2 :question
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Here you go: http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/specs/detail.aspx?deriv=20767
Kevin
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http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.reynolds983/Manuals/Omega2002Manual.pdf
and page 223/4 :y :y
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Is your miggy a 2.6 or a 3.2 :question
3.0
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/mr-ti-rover/009.jpg)
Is your miggy a 2.6 or a 3.2 :question
3.0
If you are still not sure go to your caravan dealer and they have data on all cars regarding the towing capabilities, they will advise, you need to be 100% sure you get the right caravan weight or you will be unsafe and you will stuff up your gearbox/Engine etc.
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Is your miggy a 2.6 or a 3.2 :question
3.0
3.0 facelift? only thought there was a 2.6 and 3.2....Y26SE, Y32SE in the facelift model
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go to google and type in towsure / and towsure will have a page where you put your car and caravan details in and it will tell you if its a good mathcing outfit . its where i always do my car :y
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Here you go: http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/specs/detail.aspx?deriv=20767
Kevin
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.reynolds983/Manuals/Omega2002Manual.pdf
and page 223/4 :y :y
looked at both off them before and was confused with it all.....
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Ok, have you got an idea of what van you are going to get?
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If you are still not sure go to your caravan dealer and they have data on all cars regarding the towing capabilities, they will advise, you need to be 100% sure you get the right caravan weight or you will be unsafe and you will stuff up your gearbox/Engine etc.
Do this and you will be sure :y
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If you are still not sure go to your caravan dealer and they have data on all cars regarding the towing capabilities, they will advise, you need to be 100% sure you get the right caravan weight or you will be unsafe and you will stuff up your gearbox/Engine etc.
yeh don't want to crappity smack it up before i start :)will pop down to dealers tomorrow only 3 mile from me,give me something to do.....
3.0 facelift? only thought there was a 2.6 and 3.2....Y26SE, Y32SE in the facelift model
yeh they did a facelift 3.0...2.6 and 3.2 were later engine sizes....
go to google and type in towsure / and towsure will have a page where you put your car and caravan details in and it will tell you if its a good mathcing outfit . its where i always do my car :y
looked at that before couldn't find a couple makes of caravan on there though so gave up :)
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Ok, have you got an idea of what van you are going to get?
a big one ;D.......
need at least a five berth and everything we like is twin wheeled
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If you are still not sure go to your caravan dealer and they have data on all cars regarding the towing capabilities, they will advise, you need to be 100% sure you get the right caravan weight or you will be unsafe and you will stuff up your gearbox/Engine etc.
yeh don't want to crappity smack it up before i start :)will pop down to dealers tomorrow only 3 mile from me,give me something to do.....
3.0 facelift? only thought there was a 2.6 and 3.2....Y26SE, Y32SE in the facelift model
yeh they did a facelift 3.0...2.6 and 3.2 were later engine sizes....
go to google and type in towsure / and towsure will have a page where you put your car and caravan details in and it will tell you if its a good mathcing outfit . its where i always do my car :y
looked at that before couldn't find a couple makes of caravan on there though so gave up :)
They will put you right mate... :y :y :y :y
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At the end of the day, an Omega weighs 1700 Kg kerb weight give or take a little and train weight is over 4 tonnes.
So, 85% weight gives you around 1450. If you need to exceed that you are OK up to around 1700-1800 depending on the model.
Kevin
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As miggy has suggested. When I went looking for a van I didn't know about kerb weight, train wieght etc, so I went to a couple of dealers had a look round to see what they had then checked with the dealer to see if the car was capable enough to tow it. One van that we looked at was a twin axle 6 berth Bailey senator (the top of the range Bailey) and they said yes but with you in it and the van fully loaded you are on your max. So off to another dealer found another van checked to see if it was compatible with the car and it was perfect and still enough for more. We have a Abbey vogue gts 420 2004 model top of the range van.
HTH
Paul :y
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My Omega estate 1750kg (kerbweight) saloon not far off that weight, and caravan Abbey Vogue 495 1460kg (MTPLM) is a good match.
I wouldn't go much over that weight of caravan with any Omega.
If your talking twin axle, you're into 4 x 4 territory.
Mick
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went to caravan dealers today and asked them....
done a print out and said the car weighs 1675 kgs and 85% of that was looking at around 1420 kgs....said could go to 1500 kgs max with no problems.....
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Ours is just over 900kg for a five berth and it has a 400kg payload :o
Awning, food, drink, ect ect doesn't have use it up
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Ours is just over 900kg for a five berth and it has a 400kg payload :o
Awning, food, drink, ect ect doesn't have use it up
I think our 2 berth is heavier than yours! :y :y :y A cunning ploy so they couldn't invite themselves on a wk end. ;D ;D