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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Darth Loo-knee on 20 November 2007, 16:54:12
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I haven't got a clue which one to have :-[ Anyone recommend any?
Seen them with 54mbps, 100 odd mbps :-[
I have been to PC World they have a Belkin G+ that was £109 for £49.99 sounds good but dont know which I need.
Any help please?
Daz
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My Netgear DG834 4 port router + wireless and modem has been superb.
Dont bother paying extra for the G+ stuff, it only works if your sat on top of the router, as soon as you are any distance from it there is no gain and for surfing the web you wont benefit from it anyway.
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This is a pretty reasonable piece of kit ... nothing spectacular but it works ...
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/124784
I use one of these in the main PC
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/81058
and use the USB for the laptop and if any visitors want to connect up. My daughter uses one of these
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/45581
as her ancient laptop only has one USB and she uses that for other things ..
the three parts all talk together very well, and she gets internet access from her bedroom quite easily even though the router is downstairs and some way from her room.
HTH :)
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My Netgear DG834 4 port router + wireless and modem has been superb.
Dont bother paying extra for the G+ stuff, it only works if your sat on top of the router, as soon as you are any distance from it there is no gain and for surfing the web you wont benefit from it anyway.
Same as mine and i agree excellent.. ;) :y
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I haven't got a clue which one to have :-[ Anyone recommend any?
Seen them with 54mbps, 100 odd mbps :-[
I have been to PC World they have a Belkin G+ that was £109 for £49.99 sounds good but dont know which I need.
Any help please?
Daz
Daz, Anything on e-bay?... Sorry can't help with a freebe, even though I'm in the trade, only come across the odd wired ones from time to time...
DC
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Wireless performance is pretty immaterial unless you are connecting to a high speed LAN (Local Area Network). If you are using wireless to connect to broadband then it is unlikely that the Broadband circuit will be running at more than 2Mb - possibly 8Mb if you live in a telephone exchange - therefore the best performance you will ever get is limited by the broadband speed, not the wireless speed.
There are three common standards for wireless, namely IEEE802.11b,g and a.
.11b is the slowest and offers a maximum of 11Mbps - so, in theory, more than enough for broadband internet use.
.11g is similar to .11b and operates in the 2.4GHz band and offers a maximum speed of 54Mbps. Note that speeds are theoretical and depend on how far you are from the wireless device and how much RF interference there is around.
.11a operates in the 5GHz spectrum and is therefore less likely to be affected by interference. It is also less common and more expensive than.11b or .11g. .11a offers speeds of up to 54Mbps.
A new emerging standard .11n is available on some devices - mainly Apple MAC's - and can run as fast as 300Mbps - but when your broadband is only running at 2Mbps, what's the point.
I suggest you go for a cheap .11b device (about a fiver on ebay) or buy a .11g for multiple users. Note that even on a .11g device, if a .11b user connects to it then all devices connected to that wireless access point will revert to .11b speeds unless the AP is dual radio (highly unlikely under £200).
Clear as mud?? :y
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My Netgear DG834 4 port router + wireless and modem has been superb.
Dont bother paying extra for the G+ stuff, it only works if your sat on top of the router, as soon as you are any distance from it there is no gain and for surfing the web you wont benefit from it anyway.
Lookin on fleabay for one of these, but these are ADSL, is that for a cable connection like NTL or Virgin Media now?
As I have been told they are different? :-[
What about this one then any good? I really have know idea sorry Guys :'(
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-Netgear-Cable-DSL-Wireless-Router-MR314_W0QQitemZ150185218165QQihZ005QQcategoryZ101269QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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My Netgear DG834 4 port router + wireless and modem has been superb.
Dont bother paying extra for the G+ stuff, it only works if your sat on top of the router, as soon as you are any distance from it there is no gain and for surfing the web you wont benefit from it anyway.
Lookin on fleabay for one of these, but these are ADSL, is that for a cable connection like NTL or Virgin Media now?
As I have been told they are different? :-[
No, that's your broad band connection.
Asymmetric Digital Subscriber Line (ADSL) is a form of DSL, a data communications technology that enables faster data transmission over copper telephone lines than a conventional voiceband modem can provide. It does this by utilizing frequencies that are not used by a voice telephone call. :y :y
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Hi.... I've run a Belkin Pre-N Router for a couple of years now.... it's really fast and has long range wireless, and it's also a 4 port ethernet router..... just plug your adsl modem into it and you're away!
Nem......
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Wireless performance is pretty immaterial unless you are connecting to a high speed LAN (Local Area Network). If you are using wireless to connect to broadband then it is unlikely that the Broadband circuit will be running at more than 2Mb - possibly 8Mb if you live in a telephone exchange - therefore the best performance you will ever get is limited by the broadband speed, not the wireless speed.
There are three common standards for wireless, namely IEEE802.11b,g and a.
.11b is the slowest and offers a maximum of 11Mbps - so, in theory, more than enough for broadband internet use.
.11g is similar to .11b and operates in the 2.4GHz band and offers a maximum speed of 54Mbps. Note that speeds are theoretical and depend on how far you are from the wireless device and how much RF interference there is around.
.11a operates in the 5GHz spectrum and is therefore less likely to be affected by interference. It is also less common and more expensive than.11b or .11g. .11a offers speeds of up to 54Mbps.
A new emerging standard .11n is available on some devices - mainly Apple MAC's - and can run as fast as 300Mbps - but when your broadband is only running at 2Mbps, what's the point.
I suggest you go for a cheap .11b device (about a fiver on ebay) or buy a .11g for multiple users. Note that even on a .11g device, if a .11b user connects to it then all devices connected to that wireless access point will revert to .11b speeds unless the AP is dual radio (highly unlikely under £200).
Clear as mud?? :y
And the reason i have mixed mode turned off and 11g only selected ;)
Good informative post :y
I use a Linksys WAG354G ver2 with no probs, with laptop and 2 desktops connected via wireless.....Only prob i do get is with a HP OfficeJet printer.....connected to a HP printer server, thats connected to wireless bridge.....I usually have to power cycle the bridge and print server to get wireless connection to work....prints fine then.....then a day/week or so later i have to power cycle em again. Tho nothing to do with the linksys router :y And probably due to trying to make a printer that wasnt designed to be wireless......wireless ::)
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Well if anyone is on Fleabay see if they can find me one cause I am ready smash my computer up ;D
I don't know one from the other... PC World told me I need a Cable one so that the NTL/Virgin Cable will fit into it notthe ADSL one :-[ :-[ :'(
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Wireless performance is pretty immaterial unless you are connecting to a high speed LAN (Local Area Network). If you are using wireless to connect to broadband then it is unlikely that the Broadband circuit will be running at more than 2Mb - possibly 8Mb if you live in a telephone exchange - therefore the best performance you will ever get is limited by the broadband speed, not the wireless speed.
There are three common standards for wireless, namely IEEE802.11b,g and a.
.11b is the slowest and offers a maximum of 11Mbps - so, in theory, more than enough for broadband internet use.
.11g is similar to .11b and operates in the 2.4GHz band and offers a maximum speed of 54Mbps. Note that speeds are theoretical and depend on how far you are from the wireless device and how much RF interference there is around.
.11a operates in the 5GHz spectrum and is therefore less likely to be affected by interference. It is also less common and more expensive than.11b or .11g. .11a offers speeds of up to 54Mbps.
A new emerging standard .11n is available on some devices - mainly Apple MAC's - and can run as fast as 300Mbps - but when your broadband is only running at 2Mbps, what's the point.
I suggest you go for a cheap .11b device (about a fiver on ebay) or buy a .11g for multiple users. Note that even on a .11g device, if a .11b user connects to it then all devices connected to that wireless access point will revert to .11b speeds unless the AP is dual radio (highly unlikely under £200).
Clear as mud?? :y
And the reason i have mixed mode turned off and 11g only selected ;)
Good informative post :y
I use a Linksys WAG354G ver2 with no probs, with laptop and 2 desktops connected via wireless.....Only prob i do get is with a HP OfficeJet printer.....connected to a HP printer server, thats connected to wireless bridge.....I usually have to power cycle the bridge and print server to get wireless connection to work....prints fine then.....then a day/week or so later i have to power cycle em again. Tho nothing to do with the linksys router :y And probably due to trying to make a printer that wasnt designed to be wireless......wireless ::)
Everyone reading this is probably pissing themselves but are you saying if I was downstairs with a Laptop I could print stuff out upstairs? :-/
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Wireless performance is pretty immaterial unless you are connecting to a high speed LAN (Local Area Network). If you are using wireless to connect to broadband then it is unlikely that the Broadband circuit will be running at more than 2Mb - possibly 8Mb if you live in a telephone exchange - therefore the best performance you will ever get is limited by the broadband speed, not the wireless speed.
There are three common standards for wireless, namely IEEE802.11b,g and a.
.11b is the slowest and offers a maximum of 11Mbps - so, in theory, more than enough for broadband internet use.
.11g is similar to .11b and operates in the 2.4GHz band and offers a maximum speed of 54Mbps. Note that speeds are theoretical and depend on how far you are from the wireless device and how much RF interference there is around.
.11a operates in the 5GHz spectrum and is therefore less likely to be affected by interference. It is also less common and more expensive than.11b or .11g. .11a offers speeds of up to 54Mbps.
A new emerging standard .11n is available on some devices - mainly Apple MAC's - and can run as fast as 300Mbps - but when your broadband is only running at 2Mbps, what's the point.
I suggest you go for a cheap .11b device (about a fiver on ebay) or buy a .11g for multiple users. Note that even on a .11g device, if a .11b user connects to it then all devices connected to that wireless access point will revert to .11b speeds unless the AP is dual radio (highly unlikely under £200).
Clear as mud?? :y
And the reason i have mixed mode turned off and 11g only selected ;)
Good informative post :y
I use a Linksys WAG354G ver2 with no probs, with laptop and 2 desktops connected via wireless.....Only prob i do get is with a HP OfficeJet printer.....connected to a HP printer server, thats connected to wireless bridge.....I usually have to power cycle the bridge and print server to get wireless connection to work....prints fine then.....then a day/week or so later i have to power cycle em again. Tho nothing to do with the linksys router :y And probably due to trying to make a printer that wasnt designed to be wireless......wireless ::)
Everyone reading this is probably pissing themselves but are you saying if I was downstairs with a Laptop I could print stuff out upstairs? :-/
Yes
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My Netgear DG834 4 port router + wireless and modem has been superb.
Dont bother paying extra for the G+ stuff, it only works if your sat on top of the router, as soon as you are any distance from it there is no gain and for surfing the web you wont benefit from it anyway.
Lookin on fleabay for one of these, but these are ADSL, is that for a cable connection like NTL or Virgin Media now?
As I have been told they are different? :-[
What about this one then any good? I really have know idea sorry Guys :'(
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-Netgear-Cable-DSL-Wireless-Router-MR314_W0QQitemZ150185218165QQihZ005QQcategoryZ101269QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Ahhh ive youve got broadband as oppose to ADSL.......you need just a wireless router.....no modem
Summat like this
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Belkin-54g-WiFi-Wireless-G-Router_W0QQitemZ160180112018QQihZ006QQcategoryZ44997QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Tho i dont vouch for the router.....never tried one.....just an example.....you plug the router into your broadband modem :y
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Wireless performance is pretty immaterial unless you are connecting to a high speed LAN (Local Area Network). If you are using wireless to connect to broadband then it is unlikely that the Broadband circuit will be running at more than 2Mb - possibly 8Mb if you live in a telephone exchange - therefore the best performance you will ever get is limited by the broadband speed, not the wireless speed.
There are three common standards for wireless, namely IEEE802.11b,g and a.
.11b is the slowest and offers a maximum of 11Mbps - so, in theory, more than enough for broadband internet use.
.11g is similar to .11b and operates in the 2.4GHz band and offers a maximum speed of 54Mbps. Note that speeds are theoretical and depend on how far you are from the wireless device and how much RF interference there is around.
.11a operates in the 5GHz spectrum and is therefore less likely to be affected by interference. It is also less common and more expensive than.11b or .11g. .11a offers speeds of up to 54Mbps.
A new emerging standard .11n is available on some devices - mainly Apple MAC's - and can run as fast as 300Mbps - but when your broadband is only running at 2Mbps, what's the point.
I suggest you go for a cheap .11b device (about a fiver on ebay) or buy a .11g for multiple users. Note that even on a .11g device, if a .11b user connects to it then all devices connected to that wireless access point will revert to .11b speeds unless the AP is dual radio (highly unlikely under £200).
Clear as mud?? :y
And the reason i have mixed mode turned off and 11g only selected ;)
Good informative post :y
I use a Linksys WAG354G ver2 with no probs, with laptop and 2 desktops connected via wireless.....Only prob i do get is with a HP OfficeJet printer.....connected to a HP printer server, thats connected to wireless bridge.....I usually have to power cycle the bridge and print server to get wireless connection to work....prints fine then.....then a day/week or so later i have to power cycle em again. Tho nothing to do with the linksys router :y And probably due to trying to make a printer that wasnt designed to be wireless......wireless ::)
Everyone reading this is probably pissing themselves but are you saying if I was downstairs with a Laptop I could print stuff out upstairs? :-/
I do :y Wireless laptop downstairs.....wireless printer setup upstairs :y
Tho should point out it doesnt have to be wireless.....if it has a LAN connection.....you could plug the printer into the wireless router....as long as the wireless router has LAN ports :y
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Personally, I'd get a proper router, and add a proper wireless access point.
I know Mr DTM uses some Netgear piece of junk, and when they work, they are usable.
Somehow, though, I reckon you lot would linch me if I trusted the OOF to the mickey mouse protection offered by virtually all all-in-one wireless routers. For security reasons I won't say what I use :-X
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I have broadband through NTL/Virgin Media which comes through Cable.
The Wireless Router you have posted up Dave I have seen the same sort of thing for £40 today but thought I would ask you guys what is best as ain't got a clue :-[ but i'm more confused now than this afternoon ;D
Am I right so far then, this wireless router plugs into my broadband modem, and will then pick up wireless Laptops and other wireless stuff? so if I can make my printer wireless when I'm downstairs I could print out upstairs?
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I have broadband through NTL/Virgin Media which comes through Cable.
The Wireless Router you have posted up Dave I have seen the same sort of thing for £40 today but thought I would ask you guys what is best as ain't got a clue :-[ but i'm more confused now than this afternoon ;D
Am I right so far then, this wireless router plugs into my broadband modem, and will then pick up wireless Laptops and other wireless stuff? so if I can make my printer wireless when I'm downstairs I could print out upstairs?
You could just leave the printer connected to the pc upstairs, then whenever the upstairs pc is on you can print from a wireless laptop.
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I have broadband through NTL/Virgin Media which comes through Cable.
The Wireless Router you have posted up Dave I have seen the same sort of thing for £40 today but thought I would ask you guys what is best as ain't got a clue :-[ but i'm more confused now than this afternoon ;D
Am I right so far then, this wireless router plugs into my broadband modem, and will then pick up wireless Laptops and other wireless stuff? so if I can make my printer wireless when I'm downstairs I could print out upstairs?
So you have an ethernet modem?
If so, Linksys used to do a respected broadband wireless router (note, not DSL wireless router). With Linksys, the blue and black ones are the better ones.
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I have broadband through NTL/Virgin Media which comes through Cable.
The Wireless Router you have posted up Dave I have seen the same sort of thing for £40 today but thought I would ask you guys what is best as ain't got a clue :-[ but i'm more confused now than this afternoon ;D
Am I right so far then, this wireless router plugs into my broadband modem, and will then pick up wireless Laptops and other wireless stuff? so if I can make my printer wireless when I'm downstairs I could print out upstairs?
Yes......apart from maybe printer......most printers these days are usb.....if it is you would need......umm i think you maybe stuffed there....unless anyone has a solution.
Tho if it is usb and connected to a pc.....if the pc is made wireless and left turned on......you could share the printer from that pc and print to it from your laptop :y
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So is this for me then?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-Belkin-4-port-Wireless-G-Broadband-Router-F5D7230_W0QQitemZ160180053934QQihZ006QQcategoryZ44997QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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I have broadband through NTL/Virgin Media which comes through Cable.
The Wireless Router you have posted up Dave I have seen the same sort of thing for £40 today but thought I would ask you guys what is best as ain't got a clue :-[ but i'm more confused now than this afternoon ;D
Am I right so far then, this wireless router plugs into my broadband modem, and will then pick up wireless Laptops and other wireless stuff? so if I can make my printer wireless when I'm downstairs I could print out upstairs?
So you have an ethernet modem?
If so, Linksys used to do a respected broadband wireless router (note, not DSL wireless router). With Linksys, the blue and black ones are the better ones.
Until the wireless side fails......as mine did......now have linksys silver and grey one
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So is this for me then?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-Belkin-4-port-Wireless-G-Broadband-Router-F5D7230_W0QQitemZ160180053934QQihZ006QQcategoryZ44997QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Yes that the sort you need.....tho peeps will have their preference on make they like :y
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I have broadband through NTL/Virgin Media which comes through Cable.
The Wireless Router you have posted up Dave I have seen the same sort of thing for £40 today but thought I would ask you guys what is best as ain't got a clue :-[ but i'm more confused now than this afternoon ;D
Am I right so far then, this wireless router plugs into my broadband modem, and will then pick up wireless Laptops and other wireless stuff? so if I can make my printer wireless when I'm downstairs I could print out upstairs?
So you have an ethernet modem?
If so, Linksys used to do a respected broadband wireless router (note, not DSL wireless router). With Linksys, the blue and black ones are the better ones.
Haven't got a clue! I have a Cable that comes through the wall (looks almost like the ariel that plugs into the back of a car radio) then goes into a box with flashing lights on that I thought was a modem, then there is a USB cable that is also plugged into the back then that cable runs into a USB socket into the back of my tower. Hope that makes sense to you guys ::)
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I have broadband through NTL/Virgin Media which comes through Cable.
The Wireless Router you have posted up Dave I have seen the same sort of thing for £40 today but thought I would ask you guys what is best as ain't got a clue :-[ but i'm more confused now than this afternoon ;D
Am I right so far then, this wireless router plugs into my broadband modem, and will then pick up wireless Laptops and other wireless stuff? so if I can make my printer wireless when I'm downstairs I could print out upstairs?
Yes......apart from maybe printer......most printers these days are usb.....if it is you would need......umm i think you maybe stuffed there....unless anyone has a solution.
Tho if it is usb and connected to a pc.....if the pc is made wireless and left turned on......you could share the printer from that pc and print to it from your laptop :y
If the printer driver is network aware (most are, some cheapos aren't), get a USB print server ;)
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I have broadband through NTL/Virgin Media which comes through Cable.
The Wireless Router you have posted up Dave I have seen the same sort of thing for £40 today but thought I would ask you guys what is best as ain't got a clue :-[ but i'm more confused now than this afternoon ;D
Am I right so far then, this wireless router plugs into my broadband modem, and will then pick up wireless Laptops and other wireless stuff? so if I can make my printer wireless when I'm downstairs I could print out upstairs?
So you have an ethernet modem?
If so, Linksys used to do a respected broadband wireless router (note, not DSL wireless router). With Linksys, the blue and black ones are the better ones.
Haven't got a clue! I have a Cable that comes through the wall (looks almost like the ariel that plugs into the back of a car radio) then goes into a box with flashing lights on that I thought was a modem, then there is a USB cable that is also plugged into the back then that cable runs into a USB socket into the back of my tower. Hope that makes sense to you guys ::)
Does the modem also have an RJ45 on the back?
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Bloody computers, I am going to by a pigeon far less trouble, just feed it and throw it up in the air with a note fastened to its leg ;D
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Does the modem also have an RJ45 on the back?
Someone else mentioned this in a shop today, I have no idea what on earth it is ????? :-/
There is the cable going into the back from outside, USB socket that a wire goes to my computer, a Power wire, then an empty socket with ENET under the empty socket...
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I have broadband through NTL/Virgin Media which comes through Cable.
The Wireless Router you have posted up Dave I have seen the same sort of thing for £40 today but thought I would ask you guys what is best as ain't got a clue :-[ but i'm more confused now than this afternoon ;D
Am I right so far then, this wireless router plugs into my broadband modem, and will then pick up wireless Laptops and other wireless stuff? so if I can make my printer wireless when I'm downstairs I could print out upstairs?
Yes......apart from maybe printer......most printers these days are usb.....if it is you would need......umm i think you maybe stuffed there....unless anyone has a solution.
Tho if it is usb and connected to a pc.....if the pc is made wireless and left turned on......you could share the printer from that pc and print to it from your laptop :y
If the printer driver is network aware (most are, some cheapos aren't), get a USB print server ;)
There we go....a solution from TB :y
And good point.....id forgotten my printer is a HP Officejet 55 (ok old i know but works bloody fine...and i have separate printer for printing photos :y ) but my pc's run the HP officejet 85 printer driver.....as thats network aware....the 55 driver isnt!
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Does the modem also have an RJ45 on the back?
Someone else mentioned this in a shop today, I have no idea what on earth it is ????? :-/
There is the cable going into the back from outside, USB socket that a wire goes to my computer, a Power wire, then an empty socket with ENET under the empty socket...
Thats the thingy you need :y
Will stand for Ethernet....RJ45 same thing :y
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Does the modem also have an RJ45 on the back?
Someone else mentioned this in a shop today, I have no idea what on earth it is ????? :-/
There is the cable going into the back from outside, USB socket that a wire goes to my computer, a Power wire, then an empty socket with ENET under the empty socket...
Yup, thats the kiddie
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Personally, I'd get a proper router, and add a proper wireless access point.
I know Mr DTM uses some Netgear piece of junk, and when they work, they are usable.
Somehow, though, I reckon you lot would linch me if I trusted the OOF to the mickey mouse protection offered by virtually all all-in-one wireless routers. For security reasons I won't say what I use :-X
Horses for courses......no point in me spending loads on networking when I only have a single computer and occasionaly a laptop and palm connected.
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Personally, I'd get a proper router, and add a proper wireless access point.
I know Mr DTM uses some Netgear piece of junk, and when they work, they are usable.
Somehow, though, I reckon you lot would linch me if I trusted the OOF to the mickey mouse protection offered by virtually all all-in-one wireless routers. For security reasons I won't say what I use :-X
Horses for courses......no point in me spending loads on networking when I only have a single computer and occasionaly a laptop and palm connected.
Last router I bought (of the same type I use here on both lines) cost £3.94 inc p&p from ebay. It actually cost the seller £4.25 in postage alone :o
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On the subject of, I have my home hub in one room with the pc which is connected by an ethernet cable, I have a Canon printer usb'd into the pc... how can I print from wireless laptop now that my Q is working?? Anyone? DC
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Assuming the Canon is networkable, get a USB print server
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Assuming the Canon is networkable, get a USB print server
Hi Jaime, wot's one of them then?
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Assuming the Canon is networkable, get a USB print server
Hi Jaime, wot's one of them then?
A little beige box, with little men inside running around getting print jobs from network and giving them to the printer...
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Assuming the Canon is networkable, get a USB print server
Hi Jaime, wot's one of them then?
A little beige box, with little men inside running around getting print jobs from network and giving them to the printer...
Technology should have progressed further than that by now... you're kidding me aren't you? :P
Pretty sure the Home Hub will do it without, but, nobody seems to know how.. there are 2 USB's on the Hub,,,, the instructions are as clear as mud...
DC
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You just install a network printer on the lappy and leave the pc on.
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Hi Cpt Zok, Tell me more!
Have just tried plugging my printer into the Hub... nowt!
Any suggestions!!!
DC
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No leave the printer on the pc, it can then be installed as a network printer.
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No leave the printer on the pc, it can then be installed as a network printer.
Will try on the morrow... Cheers dc
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Personally, I'd get a proper router, and add a proper wireless access point.
I know Mr DTM uses some Netgear piece of junk, and when they work, they are usable.
Somehow, though, I reckon you lot would linch me if I trusted the OOF to the mickey mouse protection offered by virtually all all-in-one wireless routers. For security reasons I won't say what I use :-X
Horses for courses......no point in me spending loads on networking when I only have a single computer and occasionaly a laptop and palm connected.
Last router I bought (of the same type I use here on both lines) cost £3.94 inc p&p from ebay. It actually cost the seller £4.25 in postage alone :o
I wouldn't even bother spending that :-? Just ring up your service provider, tell em you're paying too much for your service and are considering changing. They'll be only too happy to bung you a wireless in the post. Most have improved anyway and the equipment supplied by the provider is likely to be more reliable. Just about all broadband subscriptions are supplied with a wireless router anyway so it's worth a call for nowt.
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Just get one of these.
(http://www.thecheezburgerfactory.com//completestore/128340998580937500ADSLcatisconn.jpg)
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Assuming the Canon is networkable, get a USB print server
Hi Jaime, wot's one of them then?
A little beige box, with little men inside running around getting print jobs from network and giving them to the printer...
Technology should have progressed further than that by now... you're kidding me aren't you? :P
Pretty sure the Home Hub will do it without, but, nobody seems to know how.. there are 2 USB's on the Hub,,,, the instructions are as clear as mud...
DC
You, of all people, should realise what a piece of junk Home Hub is! A so-so product if bought from Alcatel/Thomson or whoever owns Speedtouch now, but knobbled by BT's 'customisations'
Still, I'm guessing you get it free though, so can't argue with that.
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Personally, I'd get a proper router, and add a proper wireless access point.
I know Mr DTM uses some Netgear piece of junk, and when they work, they are usable.
Somehow, though, I reckon you lot would linch me if I trusted the OOF to the mickey mouse protection offered by virtually all all-in-one wireless routers. For security reasons I won't say what I use :-X
Horses for courses......no point in me spending loads on networking when I only have a single computer and occasionaly a laptop and palm connected.
Last router I bought (of the same type I use here on both lines) cost £3.94 inc p&p from ebay. It actually cost the seller £4.25 in postage alone :o
I wouldn't even bother spending that :-? Just ring up your service provider, tell em you're paying too much for your service and are considering changing. They'll be only too happy to bung you a wireless in the post. Most have improved anyway and the equipment supplied by the provider is likely to be more reliable. Just about all broadband subscriptions are supplied with a wireless router anyway so it's worth a call for nowt.
LOL, only the stupid ones - the Tiscalis etc - will do that...
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errrrrm,
BT Home hub, BT Vision, 8meg, extra line, reduced rate mobile calls and all the usual decent call options for £15 month. Can't say fairer. Sky are also £19 now with all the goodies.
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errrrrm,
BT Home hub, BT Vision, 8meg, extra line, reduced rate mobile calls and all the usual decent call options for £15 month. Can't say fairer. Sky are also £19 now with all the goodies.
I suspect dave c pays much less ;)
Home Hub is a great idea, poorly implemented by Alcatel/Thomson, made worse by BT's usual customisations - one of which disables WPA, so WEP only. WEP is and always has been very badly broken - it is very, very insecure, and should not be used. Stability under stress is another issue with the BT customisation.
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errrrrm,
BT Home hub, BT Vision, 8meg, extra line, reduced rate mobile calls and all the usual decent call options for £15 month. Can't say fairer. Sky are also £19 now with all the goodies.
I suspect dave c pays much less ;)
Is he tapping into next door then? ;D I know for a fact that our home hub is not powerful enough to be picked up from the houses around us. There would have to be someone sitting on our doorstep to pick up any usable signal. For the average joe public, advanced security on a router probably won't make any difference. Obviously if you're running a server it has to be tight but for most families browsing the web there is not likely to be a large security threat. Much better is a decent firewall/antivirus because there'll always be people producing trojans and viruses for windows. For Mr Public it's just more technical headaches to contend with :-?
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errrrrm,
BT Home hub, BT Vision, 8meg, extra line, reduced rate mobile calls and all the usual decent call options for £15 month. Can't say fairer. Sky are also £19 now with all the goodies.
I suspect dave c pays much less ;)
Is he tapping into next door then? ;D I know for a fact that our home hub is not powerful enough to be picked up from the houses around us. There would have to be someone sitting on our doorstep to pick up any usable signal. For the average joe public, advanced security on a router probably won't make any difference. Obviously if you're running a server it has to be tight but for most families browsing the web there is not likely to be a large security threat. Much better is a decent firewall/antivirus because there'll always be people producing trojans and viruses for windows. For Mr Public it's just more technical headaches to contend with :-?
Ah, no. Decent equipment can stretch that range - laptops aren't ideal for radio transceiving.
And no, forget servers, the danger is the details on your (easily accessable PC), which is pretty much open (WEP is pointless).
Even if the PC is rock solid from security point of view, once another machine is on your network, there is clever software that allows another machine to spoof webservers, such as paypal etc.
Remember, you personal details are much more valuable than anything held on most Internet facing web servers ;)
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And WPA is equally easy to configure as WEP.
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Assuming the Canon is networkable, get a USB print server
Hi Jaime, wot's one of them then?
A little beige box, with little men inside running around getting print jobs from network and giving them to the printer...
Technology should have progressed further than that by now... you're kidding me aren't you? :P
Pretty sure the Home Hub will do it without, but, nobody seems to know how.. there are 2 USB's on the Hub,,,, the instructions are as clear as mud...
DC
You, of all people, should realise what a piece of junk Home Hub is! A so-so product if bought from Alcatel/Thomson or whoever owns Speedtouch now, but knobbled by BT's 'customisations'
Still, I'm guessing you get it free though, so can't argue with that.
It's instead of free shares! £1 all in.... Bt Vision is good too for a quid one off payment.... the recorder is brill..
DC
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errrrrm,
BT Home hub, BT Vision, 8meg, extra line, reduced rate mobile calls and all the usual decent call options for £15 month. Can't say fairer. Sky are also £19 now with all the goodies.
I suspect dave c pays much less ;)
Is he tapping into next door then? ;D I know for a fact that our home hub is not powerful enough to be picked up from the houses around us. There would have to be someone sitting on our doorstep to pick up any usable signal. For the average joe public, advanced security on a router probably won't make any difference. Obviously if you're running a server it has to be tight but for most families browsing the web there is not likely to be a large security threat. Much better is a decent firewall/antivirus because there'll always be people producing trojans and viruses for windows. For Mr Public it's just more technical headaches to contend with :-?
Ah, no. Decent equipment can stretch that range - laptops aren't ideal for radio transceiving.
And no, forget servers, the danger is the details on your (easily accessable PC), which is pretty much open (WEP is pointless).
Even if the PC is rock solid from security point of view, once another machine is on your network, there is clever software that allows another machine to spoof webservers, such as paypal etc.
Remember, you personal details are much more valuable than anything held on most Internet facing web servers ;)
Personal details? What personal details?.....nothing much to give away here....i'd rather leave that to the government anyway, who take care of most of my data ;D :y
People get fake emails and popups everyday anyway, spoofing particular sites and it amazes me how many people click on them. That's what people need educating in. And yes, most people I speak to have had problems with setting up wireless networks. WEP is good enough to stop someone nicking your bandwidth. Fact is, if you want secure, hardwire the lot, but then, it will NEVER be secure anyway because it's connected to the internet! :-?
Dave, our BT vision was free and afaik works well.