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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: hotel21 on 22 November 2007, 00:07:21
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While we are all moaning about the cost of unleaded, try to work the following out...
The car ferry from Rosyth to Zeebrugge in summertime 2008 for two plus car (excluding meals) is circa £900 return (including overnight bunks).
The same trip from Dover to Calais (return) is £100, no bunks needed (30 mins trip).
Now, excluding the seaborne travel times, even including mileage costs each way from Scotland to Dover and return, I'm still looking at £300 versus £900 to get me to the same place on the continent (virtually).
And they wonder why folks are not using the Rosyth/Zeebrugge crossing??
[/whinge post] ;D
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Same if I want to go over from Portsmouth instead of trudging all the way to Dover / Calais :(
Kevin
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While we are all moaning about the cost of unleaded, try to work the following out...
The car ferry from Rosyth to Zeebrugge in summertime 2008 for two plus car (excluding meals) is circa £900 return (including overnight bunks).
The same trip from Dover to Calais (return) is £100, no bunks needed (30 mins trip).
Now, excluding the seaborne travel times, even including mileage costs each way from Scotland to Dover and return, I'm still looking at £300 versus £900 to get me to the same place on the continent (virtually).
And they wonder why folks are not using the Rosyth/Zeebrugge crossing??
[/whinge post] ;D
Even when you take into account the extra fuel, staff etc to cover the greater distance' when you consider the amount of passengers and cars carried the numbers just dont stack up :-/
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Obviously because there's no competition sailing from Rosyth, they recon your ripe for a shafting.
Don't you just love big business.
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Went from Hull/Zeebrugge last year, saving about £250 or so. Looks like a bigger saving next year, although theres more driving miles this end before we are 'on holiday'.
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While we are all moaning about the cost of unleaded, try to work the following out...
The car ferry from Rosyth to Zeebrugge in summertime 2008 for two plus car (excluding meals) is circa £900 return (including overnight bunks).
The same trip from Dover to Calais (return) is £100, no bunks needed (30 mins trip).
Now, excluding the seaborne travel times, even including mileage costs each way from Scotland to Dover and return, I'm still looking at £300 versus £900 to get me to the same place on the continent (virtually).
And they wonder why folks are not using the Rosyth/Zeebrugge crossing??
[/whinge post] ;D
we have the same in Plymouth, over £500 difference between plymouth-roscoff and dover-calais
and they wonder why no one uses the service ::)
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Bruce
couldnt agree more, Rosyth is on your door step....and not far from me either.
We used it a few years ago and although the food and crossing was excellent you cant legistlate for the cost...
We now, again, go from further down south..
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The one consolation is that you can get on the boat, have a meal, get bladdered, sleep it off, have breakfast and then you're there. It does beat trudging along UK motorways but it's a real price to pay...
Kevin
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The one consolation is that you can get on the boat, have a meal, get bladdered, sleep it off, have breakfast and then you're there. It does beat trudging along UK motorways but it's a real price to pay...
Kevin
Agree totally Kevin, but the other side of that coin is for the £600 saving from going from Dover etc we could pay for another week at the chalets we usually go to on the Belgian coast....therefore absorbing the 2 days lost travelling... :y
....and i do recall you like Belgium ;D
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Or stop off in the smoke at a swanky hotel, visit a restaurant and take in a show.....and still have change.
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True. Could do a lot more with £600 than spend a night on a boat. It's something that sometimes makes me cough up the extra 200 quid or so to go from Portsmouth. That and the fact that an extra 120 miles of UK motorways and 200 miles of French motorways to get to Le Mans is tedious, especially in the Westfield (and puts a big dent in your 200 quid anyway).
....and i do recall you like Belgium
Belgium is lovely. With the cruise set to 90 or above [smiley=evil.gif]
Actually been there twice other than passing through. Day trip to Oostende whereby we spent the whole day (as far as I can remember) sitting in a bar getting mullered on Kriek and Duvel.
SWMBO bought me a surprise weekend in Brussels once. I was not surprised in the slightest that eurofarcestar services were cancelled and we had to shell out for 2 business class air tickets. On the way back they wouldn't take our return train tickets because we hadn't travelled out on them (because the tunnel was closed). >:(
I will NEVER use the tunnel again. Use it as a landfill site, I say >:(
Kevin
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Your brave doing that speed on Belgium roads....they certainly dont maintain them very well.
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Your brave doing that speed on Belgium roads....they certainly dont maintain them very well.
dosnt stop the Natives of Bruxelles hamering up behind you at 100mph and flashing you out the way.....in vans :-/
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Your brave doing that speed on Belgium roads....they certainly dont maintain them very well.
dosnt stop the Natives of Bruxelles hamering up behind you at 100mph and flashing you out the way.....in vans :-/
Damn right. They drive like lunatics. Make the Italians seem patient and courteous behind the wheel.
Kevin
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I have done the trip from Rosyth a few times now. Good boats, nice crew, nice food etc, no complaints. Other than the cost.....
Initially there were two boats on the run, then one, then they changed the boat to a smaller one - sub contracted the route, basically... They wonder why less people use the route year on year. Not hard to calculate, the costs are too high.
Have also sailed from Hull/Zeebrugge and saved a couple of hundred quid, even taking the UK mileage into it.
By my sums though, having a run down to Dover saves around £600 which gives me roughly 1500 miles driving on the continent and 10 days or so camping costs!
Belgians on their motorway network are a challenge, especially the vans.
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Mad, isn't it?
I don't know how many vehicles one of those ferries holds but how can driving the whole lot down the Uk motorway network work out cheaper than running the ferry for a few more hours (assuming the overheads of loading, unloading, crewing, etc. are of the same order of magnitude)?
Kevin
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It's the same when you get to Europe too, though. I had a very nice, comfy journey down to Italy with my parents a good few years ago where we put the car on the Motorail at Boulogne, slept on the train and woke up in Milan.
I looked into doing that this year. 1000 quid! Who do they expect to pay that sort of money? A day and a half sitting on cruise control on deserted French motorways, a few motorway tolls, couple of tanks of petrol, a cheap hotel and nice dinner in a French restaurant. Came no where near the cost of the train!
Kevin
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Ramsgate to Oostende is £58 return or £112 depending how many days you spend away, but it is a commercial ferry, so theres bugger all to do.
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Day trip to Oostende whereby we spent the whole day (as far as I can remember) sitting in a bar getting mullered on Kriek and Duvel.
Ooistende is a great place to go, i sail over there 2 or 3 time a year for a long weekend. Plenty of great bars and really friendly place.
The RORC do one of the East Anglian offshore race from Harwich to Oostende and back, which is quite a fun race, 12-15hrs there, meal in the North Sea Yacht club get pissed, wake up and sail 12-15hrs back ;D
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Day trip to Oostende whereby we spent the whole day (as far as I can remember) sitting in a bar getting mullered on Kriek and Duvel.
Ooistende is a great place to go, i sail over there 2 or 3 time a year for a long weekend. Plenty of great bars and really friendly place.
The RORC do one of the East Anglian offshore race from Harwich to Oostende and back, which is quite a fun race, 12-15hrs there, meal in the North Sea Yacht club get pissed, wake up and sail 12-15hrs back ;D
Now i am in the mood....Duval and chips with mayonnaise......thats real beer and real mayo along Oostende :)