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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: bappy on 04 May 2009, 13:44:16
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ok so my monthly fuel bill has now hit the £300/mo mark.
i do getting on for 12,000 motorway miles a year just commuting, and have just found a girlfriend who lives 20 miles in the other direction.
3.0 MV6 is not the best option for me anymore :(
heres my idea...
get a smilar age 2.5td of any old trim level and transfer all the good bits from the MV6 into the tractor. the leather interior, the suspension, the ccrt700 stereo, the alloys the climate control etc etc.
I could then either break the rest of the MV6 or turn it into a track car...
looking on parker's guide tho te 2.5td only does 10 to the gallon more than the 3.0.. I currently get 26 to the gallon occasionally driving like a looney with the climate control on. If i drive moderately sensibly in a chipped tractor without the climate control on what sort of economy can I expect to get? SWMBO's octavia diesel does easily 50 to the gallon so i'd consider getting one of those if it wasnt a damned front wheel drive piece of %*&^....
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ok so my monthly fuel bill has now hit the £300/mo mark.
i do getting on for 12,000 motorway miles a year just commuting, and have just found a girlfriend who lives 20 miles in the other direction.
3.0 MV6 is not the best option for me anymore :(
heres my idea...
get a smilar age 2.5td of any old trim level and transfer all the good bits from the MV6 into the tractor. the leather interior, the suspension, the ccrt700 stereo, the alloys the climate control etc etc.
I could then either break the rest of the MV6 or turn it into a track car...
looking on parker's guide tho te 2.5td only does 10 to the gallon more than the 3.0.. I currently get 26 to the gallon occasionally driving like a looney with the climate control on. If i drive moderately sensibly in a chipped tractor without the climate control on what sort of economy can I expect to get? SWMBO's octavia diesel does easily 50 to the gallon so i'd consider getting one of those if it wasnt a damned front wheel drive piece of %*&^....
Best of both worlds mate?? ;)
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Is your 26 mpg calculated or from the MID?
If it's then MID it's lying
My traktor gives 33mpg (calculated) on a run
The BMW lump is not an economical motor but will last for ever & tolerate all manner of abuse
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Mine's chipped and returns a constant 33 mpg in the tough terrain here - proven!
Excellent driveability, cruises effortlessly on the motorway at 75-80 mph all day, and bags of grunt - literally!
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Pish posh i do 20k a year in my mv6! they aint that bad on fuel imho
you can make them do 100mph at 55.6mpg if you play the MID up for instance!
myn will do 35 but its a manual and you really really have to concentrate on economical driving but its doable!
them bmw 2.5tds do loads more to the galon than 36!
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The only accurate method to calculate consumption, is to brim the tank, use the car, and then refill it.
I'd ignore the electronic wizardry!
The BMW lump, as Pitchfork rightly says, is pretty well bombproof, but requires oil/filter changes every 4500 miles absolute maximum.
Suits us down to the ground though!
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Taken over 4 tankfuls now, bear in mind i live in the mountains of spain and its a manual estate, chipped with couple other bits done! usually loaded to the gunnels!!! when coming home its all 2nd and third gear for the last 6miles, mine is averaging a lovely 46,7 to the gallon, its even better on a run, as it did santander to malaga onjust less than one tankful, a distance of 630 mles, at a steadyish 75/80 except through madrid where it was chocabloc!! :y
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manual tractors, driven sensibly, chipped, should return 40+mpg, unless heavy town driving.
Autos suffer very, very badly in town...
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manual tractors, driven sensibly, chipped, should return 40+mpg, unless heavy town driving.
Autos suffer very, very badly in town...
as do petrol autos, a lot of mass to get moving off the line - differe :ynt story when up and running and the transmision locks in
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Or stick LPG on the MV6... I get around 20mpg on gas doing fast A's with lots of roundabouts and copious use of the loud pedal! Put it on a run at 75ish and it rises to mid-high 20's. Take into account that unleaded is fast approaching the £1/litre mark and LPG is around 55ppl at the more expensive places, under 50ppl at the cheaper places and you're talking about a saving of around 40%. A DIY kit, proven to work on the Omega, will set you back around £700 all in and you've got all the fun of a V6 with the economy of an oil burner!
Mine's an Auto so figures would be even better with a manual if jumping up and down on the pedals is what you prefer. And in addition you can extend your oil change interval after the first couple of changes as it comes out nearly as clean as it goes in!
Just my opinions, but I find mine costs me about 11p per mile to run on a "combined cycle" and I'm doing 25k per year and have previously sworn by diesels. Oh, and if you keep your current car you don't end up with something you may have to do all the normal jobs on to get it up to scratch.
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manual tractors, driven sensibly, chipped, should return 40+mpg, unless heavy town driving.
Autos suffer very, very badly in town...
Same here, mine rarely drops below 40 because I am always commuting along the A14. I have started gauging it on how many miles I get to a tank - currently around 550/600 on average.
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manual tractors, driven sensibly, chipped, should return 40+mpg, unless heavy town driving.
Autos suffer very, very badly in town...Mines an auto and seems to absouloutly scoff fuel big time i cant believe it on the display it can be anything from 7 mpg uphill to 99.99 mpg downhill avarage at the moment is 20mpg ...is there anything i can check ...or could i be doing somthing wrong ???
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I'd check the gearbox myself, then once you have noticed the lack of a clutch replace it with a nice manual box lol :)
Should I not believe the MID when it says 26 m/gal? I get about 360 miles on a tankful, takes 60-65 ltrs (assume 62.5), do some maths..... comes out at 26.16 mpg... seems right to me!
would people be expecting better or worse economy than that?
The trouble with an LPG conversion is the 25% load on the insurance. when I'm already paying 950 notes a year for comprehensive cover I don't particularly fancy a 25% loading!
Did they do a pre/mini-facelift 2.2dti???
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Many a true word said in Jest
ive got a manual gearbox ready to go then its gettin the "Chip'd " & ill go from there ...but the diesel/auto economy has been disapointing so far >:(
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i havent quite worked this "quote" thing out yet
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Me manual tractor seems to do 30-36 mpg around towns, 44-46 on A roads ( mighty twisty here not Roman straight!) and something over 50 on an empty M5. But then I'm light of foot and cid may lie.
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I'd check the gearbox myself, then once you have noticed the lack of a clutch replace it with a nice manual box lol :)
Should I not believe the MID when it says 26 m/gal? I get about 360 miles on a tankful, takes 60-65 ltrs (assume 62.5), do some maths..... comes out at 26.16 mpg... seems right to me!
would people be expecting better or worse economy than that?
The trouble with an LPG conversion is the 25% load on the insurance. when I'm already paying 950 notes a year for comprehensive cover I don't particularly fancy a 25% loading!
Did they do a pre/mini-facelift 2.2dti???
Change insurance company then!!!
Most insurers don't load the premium at all, or charge an admin fee to change, but some even offer a discount! More Than actually offer a discount for LPG cars :y :y :y
I'm with Swiftcover and they don't load the premium at all :y :y :y In fact, they don't even ask about LPG, it's just an accepted modification :y :y :y
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LPG is good - about £32 every 9 days :y
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Many a true word said in Jest
ive got a manual gearbox ready to go then its gettin the "Chip'd " & ill go from there ...but the diesel/auto economy has been disapointing so far >:(
Do you keep on top of the servicing? Oil & filter changes (every 3.5k), fuel filter, air filter are the main ones I do regularly. When I first got mine the economy was poor (for a manual) but I serviced it up over a few months and finally got he chip fitted - its quite good now.
The auto 'box will always make it a bit worse though :(
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Don't trust the MID readings to be correct in a chipped TD.
Mine tells me I'm doing wildly good MPG figures, but in reality it's not.
The only way is as mentioned before is brim the tank and do a check manually.
I think I may need to do that diesel magic trick myself, to see if I get better results.
Did a rough check on my MPG last week and got 425 miles from a tankfull. That was travelling around North Yorkshire moors and a good deal of short journeys, and a 100 mile tow with a near on 1.5 tonne caravan.......not too bad really.
Mick
Mick
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i havent quite worked this "quote" thing out yet
I couldnt work it out either so posted the question in Forum Problems,
under Highlight message
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1241097819
Hope that explains it, if thats even what your talking about ;D ;D ;D ;D