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Title: How To Build a Website...
Post by: Markie on 22 November 2007, 11:10:01
Any Ideas?

Ive got the gigabytes and address ( thanks to TheBoy)

But i`ll be darned if i can work out to get it off the ground.

I dont really think its for me all the html stuff.....

Are there any sites, packages or companies out there that will build it and if so are we talking realistic money?

Ideally the site needs to be able to host photos and video clips ( easy folks it not what you think) and be easily updated by me.  ;D :-X

Dont think it currently needs to have any form of payment/check scenario?

I know we are riddled with IT gurus on here, can any one give me some pointers please?

Title: Re: How To Build a Website...
Post by: theolodian on 22 November 2007, 11:31:39
I do that with a Mac, pretty easy, but haven't tried uploading to a server other than .mac.  I'm sure that there are other things for winblows but I haven't bothered looking.
Title: Re: How To Build a Website...
Post by: Paul M on 22 November 2007, 12:00:10
Look into content management systems -- there are loads out there to choose from, I'm no expert though so wait for someone else to pipe up with some recommendations. Basically it's a system that once installed onto the server, allows the administrator(s) easily change the content without delving into the HTML etc. Basically provides a layer of abstraction to make it quicker and easier.

Different systems are optimised to different content types, usually you add plug-ins for the stuff you want.

Wikipedia has a rather crappy article on it, but it'll give you the idea: CMS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_management_system).
Title: Re: How To Build a Website...
Post by: Paul M on 22 November 2007, 12:01:11
Here's a better Wikipedia link specific to web CMS:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_content_management_system
Title: Re: How To Build a Website...
Post by: Martin_1962 on 22 November 2007, 12:46:20
How about using Notepad!

I did all the coach pages in a DOS text editor!!!!
Title: Re: How To Build a Website...
Post by: Markie on 22 November 2007, 13:24:57
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How about using Notepad!

I did all the coach pages in a DOS text editor!!!!


you need to understand my strengths and weaknesses Martin, I know what i want but have no idea how to do it...

Not in the slightest computer literate im afraid  :(
Title: Re: How To Build a Website...
Post by: TheBoy on 22 November 2007, 13:46:04
For purely photos, in an album, check out software such as Gallery. It runs on the server, and is updated photobucket style.  Not the quickest though.

If its just hosting piccies for here or family etc, just ftp up the image, and link to it that way...
Title: Re: How To Build a Website...
Post by: TheBoy on 22 November 2007, 13:48:01
Content management systems, for small sites, tend to be harder than doing it by hand.


There are plenty of free html editors out there, even Word (which you probably have at work) can 'File > Save As HTML' ;)
Title: Re: How To Build a Website...
Post by: Markie on 22 November 2007, 13:51:17
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For purely photos, in an album, check out software such as Gallery. It runs on the server, and is updated photobucket style.  Not the quickest though.

If its just hosting piccies for here or family etc, just ftp up the image, and link to it that way...


its going to be for showcasing horses, that will be for sale, so pictures, some videos of jumping etc, background and "blog" on the horses and how they are doing, development wise..

Intention being of "pulling" people in to buy/view with add ons of livery delivery and horse transportation rates etc...

So it needs to be something we can sit down and update easily as and when re photos and text
Title: Re: How To Build a Website...
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 22 November 2007, 13:52:45
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For purely photos, in an album, check out software such as Gallery. It runs on the server, and is updated photobucket style.  Not the quickest though.

If its just hosting piccies for here or family etc, just ftp up the image, and link to it that way...


its going to be for showcasing horses, that will be for sale, so pictures, some videos of jumping etc, background and "blog" on the horses and how they are doing, development wise..

Intention being of "pulling" people in to buy/view with add ons of livery delivery and horse transportation rates etc...

So it needs to be something we can sit down and update easily as and when re photos and text

I dont think Word supports a buy it now feature....
Title: Re: How To Build a Website...
Post by: Paul M on 22 November 2007, 13:59:22
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Content management systems, for small sites, tend to be harder than doing it by hand.


There are plenty of free html editors out there, even Word (which you probably have at work) can 'File > Save As HTML' ;)


I think the whole of MySpace was written by people using Word's Save as HTML "feature". If you want your site to appeal to 12 year olds then it's a good solution ;)
Title: Re: How To Build a Website...
Post by: Markie on 22 November 2007, 14:05:21
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For purely photos, in an album, check out software such as Gallery. It runs on the server, and is updated photobucket style.  Not the quickest though.

If its just hosting piccies for here or family etc, just ftp up the image, and link to it that way...


its going to be for showcasing horses, that will be for sale, so pictures, some videos of jumping etc, background and "blog" on the horses and how they are doing, development wise..

Intention being of "pulling" people in to buy/view with add ons of livery delivery and horse transportation rates etc...

So it needs to be something we can sit down and update easily as and when re photos and text

I dont think Word supports a buy it now feature....

No buy it now or transactions online, more of a showroom...
Title: Re: How To Build a Website...
Post by: TheBoy on 22 November 2007, 14:07:20
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Content management systems, for small sites, tend to be harder than doing it by hand.


There are plenty of free html editors out there, even Word (which you probably have at work) can 'File > Save As HTML' ;)


I think the whole of MySpace was written by people using Word's Save as HTML "feature". If you want your site to appeal to 12 year olds then it's a good solution ;)
The tool has no bearing on the look of the site ;) - quite the opposite, with most CMS systems being based around similar templates.  Modifying templates for larger software packages is not an easy task.


I would urge Markie to try to build something using the tools he already has to get a feel for what he needs, if that makes sense...
Title: Re: How To Build a Website...
Post by: Markie on 22 November 2007, 14:12:14
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Content management systems, for small sites, tend to be harder than doing it by hand.


There are plenty of free html editors out there, even Word (which you probably have at work) can 'File > Save As HTML' ;)


I think the whole of MySpace was written by people using Word's Save as HTML "feature". If you want your site to appeal to 12 year olds then it's a good solution ;)
The tool has no bearing on the look of the site ;) - quite the opposite, with most CMS systems being based around similar templates.  Modifying templates for larger software packages is not an easy task.


I would urge Markie to try to build something using the tools he already has to get a feel for what he needs, if that makes sense...

What have i got apart from web space and an idea though  :( ;D
Title: Re: How To Build a Website...
Post by: Martin_1962 on 22 November 2007, 14:16:53
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How about using Notepad!

I did all the coach pages in a DOS text editor!!!!


you need to understand my strengths and weaknesses Martin, I know what i want but have no idea how to do it...

Not in the slightest computer literate im afraid  :(


Actually when you know a bit of HTML this is an easy way of modifying an existing page, VERY good for removing all of the rubbish say frontpage puts on.

I am sure there are a few HTML editors which are shareware.

You can upload with XP explorer or FileZilla (shareware).

Do you have Microshaft Orifice? (sorry MS Office)
Title: Re: How To Build a Website...
Post by: Martin_1962 on 22 November 2007, 14:17:55
List you software Mark and we will take it from there
Title: Re: How To Build a Website...
Post by: Markie on 22 November 2007, 14:20:32
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List you software Mark and we will take it from there


think i do have office yes...
Title: Re: How To Build a Website...
Post by: Martin_1962 on 22 November 2007, 14:31:21
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List you software Mark and we will take it from there


think i do have office yes...


Have a play with Frontpage

That would probably do

you will need to remove a couple of lines of code from each page and upload out of frontpage as it creates a directory structure on the web site you do not want
Title: Re: How To Build a Website...
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 22 November 2007, 14:34:54
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How about using Notepad!

I did all the coach pages in a DOS text editor!!!!


you need to understand my strengths and weaknesses Martin, I know what i want but have no idea how to do it...

Not in the slightest computer literate im afraid  :(


Actually when you know a bit of HTML this is an easy way of modifying an existing page, VERY good for removing all of the rubbish say frontpage puts on.

I am sure there are a few HTML editors which are shareware.

You can upload with XP explorer or FileZilla (shareware).

Do you have Microshaft Orifice? (sorry MS Office)

Agreed..Even sometimes I use notepad to check .net source files..
Title: Re: How To Build a Website...
Post by: TheBoy on 22 November 2007, 18:56:39
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List you software Mark and we will take it from there


think i do have office yes...
Frontpage is Microsoft's HTML Editor, but in very few versions of Office.  Word can do it though, but not ideal.

As a test, knock up a quick Word Doc (keep it very simple), and save that as html and upload, see what it looks like?
Title: Re: How To Build a Website...
Post by: TheBoy on 22 November 2007, 19:09:42
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How about using Notepad!

I did all the coach pages in a DOS text editor!!!!
Nah, real web designers use vi ;)
Title: Re: How To Build a Website...
Post by: Paul M on 22 November 2007, 23:35:56
vi rocks.... once you get over the very steep learning curve.... of which I'm about 5% of the way up  ;D
Title: Re: How To Build a Website...
Post by: iggy21uk on 22 November 2007, 23:51:51
You could use a template. I have used these http://allwebcodesign.com/setup/templates.htm can use notepad to edit most parts
comes with help pages. Support after buying bit iffy.  Priced in $$$$ so makes half price at the moment.