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Title: How do I network
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 23 November 2007, 19:09:19

my computers together :-[

I have a tower computer upstairs on XP. I have just had a wireless laptop and a router.

I have got everything plugged in, both computers I go online with :y

What I want to do is Network them together so I can move filoes between the two and print out from downstairs.

I have tried and failed on the laptop as it is Vista and very different from XP (well thats my excuse).

Also what stops anyone just using your wireless? I don't seem to have a password or anything?

Title: Re: How do I network
Post by: Crazydad on 23 November 2007, 19:15:12

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my computers together :-[

I have a tower computer upstairs on XP. I have just had a wireless laptop and a router.

I have got everything plugged in, both computers I go online with :y

What I want to do is Network them together so I can move filoes between the two and print out from downstairs.

I have tried and failed on the laptop as it is Vista and very different from XP (well thats my excuse).

Also what stops anyone just using your wireless? I don't seem to have a password or anything?

Why ask me i havent got a rather clue :D :D

Title: Re: How do I network
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 23 November 2007, 19:18:53

first can you ping the other PCs  ip from the command line as a first step..

Normally their  ip numbers start with 192.168.1.x

if this is not OK then you must set the local "firewall OFF" for every pc you want to reach

then use find computer option to find them in the network

if it asks a user and a password this means you must use the same admin name and password for the ones you want to reach

Title: Re: How do I network
Post by: STMO123 on 23 November 2007, 19:24:40

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first can you ping the other PCs  ip from the command line as a first step..

Normally their  ip numbers start with 192.168.1.x

if this is not OK then you must set the local "firewall OFF" for every pc you want to reach

then use find computer option to find them in the network

if it asks a user and a password this means you must use the same admin name and password for the ones you want to reach

OK?  ;D

Title: Re: How do I network
Post by: Elite Pete on 23 November 2007, 19:36:49

What Network Q :D

Title: Re: How do I network
Post by: Crazydad on 23 November 2007, 19:38:30

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first can you ping the other PCs  ip from the command line as a first step..

Normally their  ip numbers start with 192.168.1.x

if this is not OK then you must set the local "firewall OFF" for every pc you want to reach

then use find computer option to find them in the network

if it asks a user and a password this means you must use the same admin name and password for the ones you want to reach

OK?  ;D

;D ;D ;D ;D
does any one know what this means????

Title: Re: How do I network
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 23 November 2007, 19:55:16

I try my best to tell as simple as possible  I'm a programmer what else I do ?  :-/

Title: Re: How do I network
Post by: STMO123 on 23 November 2007, 19:56:41

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I try my best to tell as simple as possible  I'm a programmer what else I do ?  :-/

You are in danger of sounding like Jaime ;D When he goes off, my eyes go all blurry and my brain hurts ;D

Title: Re: How do I network
Post by: MikeDundee on 23 November 2007, 20:04:47

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my computers together :-[

I have a tower computer upstairs on XP. I have just had a wireless laptop and a router.

I have got everything plugged in, both computers I go online with :y

What I want to do is Network them together so I can move filoes between the two and print out from downstairs.

I have tried and failed on the laptop as it is Vista and very different from XP (well thats my excuse).

Also what stops anyone just using your wireless? I don't seem to have a password or anything?

Does help if you read the instructions :y.............try taking your pink dress off and it may help you concentrate better ;D ;D

Title: Re: How do I network
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 23 November 2007, 20:04:50

Assuming both computers are using the router....

You need to create a share, say on the desktop (right click on the folder you want to share select sharing, then you can either click the share wizard for network or just select 'i understand about sharing just share it' . Give it a share name.

Then from laptop (i assume vista does this the same as XP) You need to select map network drive (from my computer....tools) then enter the path of the share.....ie it needs to be in format

\\deskt"My Naff Code Reader"putername\sharename

Job done  :y

I assume the printer is connected to the desktop......if so you need to share the printer too

Then on the laptop select add printer and select add printer connected to another computer (again assuming vista does this in the same way as XP)

Next.....

I assume you have encryption enabled on the router.....theres different types of encryption.....WEP is not really recommended......to easy to 'crack' ........you should have a passkey set on the router.....and the first time you connected your laptop to the router it would have wanted the passkey.....once entered correctly on the laptop it wont ask for it again  :y

HTH

Title: Re: How do I network
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 23 November 2007, 20:06:53

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first can you ping the other PCs  ip from the command line as a first step..

Normally their  ip numbers start with 192.168.1.x

if this is not OK then you must set the local "firewall OFF" for every pc you want to reach

then use find computer option to find them in the network

if it asks a user and a password this means you must use the same admin name and password for the ones you want to reach

I wouldnt recommend doing this......I have the XP firewalls turned ON on all my pc's doesnt stop me connecting to them  :y

Title: Re: How do I network
Post by: Jay w on 23 November 2007, 20:08:42

i will try and decypher what Cem has said

To ping a PC you need to do the following
start>all programs>accessories>command prompt>then type in 'ipconfig'

a load of details will pop up you are looking for IPv6 address, it will look like this 192.168.1.105, this is the IP (internet profile) address for that machine

the other thing you will need to do is ensure that all the PC's on the network have the same workgroup name, to do this:
Start>control panel>System>advanced system settings>workgroup name

hope this helps

if i have missed out anything/got anything wrong please correct me

Title: Re: How do I network
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 23 November 2007, 20:09:26

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first can you ping the other PCs  ip from the command line as a first step..

Normally their  ip numbers start with 192.168.1.x

if this is not OK then you must set the local "firewall OFF" for every pc you want to reach

then use find computer option to find them in the network

if it asks a user and a password this means you must use the same admin name and password for the ones you want to reach

Think this might only work if pc's are in the same workgroup or domain........and the folders are shared.

Title: Re: How do I network
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 23 November 2007, 20:17:18

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first can you ping the other PCs  ip from the command line as a first step..

Normally their  ip numbers start with 192.168.1.x

if this is not OK then you must set the local "firewall OFF" for every pc you want to reach

then use find computer option to find them in the network

if it asks a user and a password this means you must use the same admin name and password for the ones you want to reach

I wouldnt recommend doing this......I have the XP firewalls turned ON on all my pc's doesnt stop me connecting to them  :y

there's a parameter in firewall options as "dont allow exceptions" if this is checked the firewalled pc is in ghost mode..And you can never map or see this pc..By default I think this is not checked..In general for networking PC s its minimum of few pages to read depending what protocol you use.. ;)

I tried to give simple check too see PC s see each other or not..

Title: Re: How do I network
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 23 November 2007, 20:19:20

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first can you ping the other PCs  ip from the command line as a first step..

Normally their  ip numbers start with 192.168.1.x

if this is not OK then you must set the local "firewall OFF" for every pc you want to reach

then use find computer option to find them in the network

if it asks a user and a password this means you must use the same admin name and password for the ones you want to reach

Think this might only work if pc's are in the same workgroup or domain........and the folders are shared.

if you search by ip and their subnet masks are ok they will see each other..Normally if PCs are configured as DHCP they take the ip numbers from the router ..

Title: Re: How do I network
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 23 November 2007, 20:34:53

also for transferring files you can find the other PCs disk as 192.168.1.x\c$ (administrative share) from the explorer bar (if firewall is off)..

But for printers you need a real share

its normally accepted a standard for beginners to do the job with the simplest configuration (for this I tell change the firewall off anyway most routers nowadays have a self firewall)

Title: Re: How do I network
Post by: stevejones on 23 November 2007, 21:02:22

Sorry guys but I understand PC's in general and I'm struggling with some of the advice so heaven knows how Loo-Knee will get through it !!

I recently added our laptop as a wireless PC networked with our hard wired PC and it couldn't have been simpler....in Start / Control Panel / Wireless Network setup there was a wizard that asked me to plug a USB memory stick into one of the PC's, wait a mo, then plug it into the other for a couple of secs.
Hey presto - networked pc's

I may be crap at car maintenance, but nerdy subjects.....

Hope that helps, LK

Steve

Title: Re: How do I network
Post by: Auto Addict on 24 November 2007, 07:34:46

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my computers together :-[

I have a tower computer upstairs on XP. I have just had a wireless laptop and a router.

I have got everything plugged in, both computers I go online with :y

What I want to do is Network them together so I can move filoes between the two and print out from downstairs.

I have tried and failed on the laptop as it is Vista and very different from XP (well thats my excuse).

Also what stops anyone just using your wireless? I don't seem to have a password or anything?

Bet you wish you'd never asked ;D

Title: Re: How do I network
Post by: Crazydad on 24 November 2007, 10:43:36

Perhaps this will help you :y :y


http://compnetworking.about.com/od/homenetworking/a/connecttwocomp.htm

Title: Re: How do I network
Post by: Andy B on 24 November 2007, 13:29:53

Don't you have a 10 year old son/nephew/etc you can ask?  ;D  ;D  Anything to do with modern electronics/gizmos I just give to my son to sort out ;) - I'm f***ed now that he's in the services  :(

Title: Re: How do I network
Post by: Golfbuddy on 24 November 2007, 15:23:15

Don't worry Daz. Just call these guys (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1LLTsSnGWMI).  :y

Title: Re: How do I network
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 24 November 2007, 18:15:18

Yep..a nine years old children will solve the problem  ;D

Title: Re: How do I network
Post by: CaptainZok on 24 November 2007, 18:19:00

Well it was fixed earlier but he's been offline for a while...... so who knows.  ;D

Title: Re: How do I network
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 24 November 2007, 18:54:38

the 'Captain' worked his wonders for me last night fixing my computer up and everything is fine :y

So another MASSIVE thanks to John ;)

Title: Re: How do I network
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 24 November 2007, 21:12:10

glad to hear its sorted :y