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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: KillerWatt on 21 May 2009, 13:28:38

Title: Life expectancy
Post by: KillerWatt on 21 May 2009, 13:28:38
After an incident yesterday where the front skirt slammed in to the tarmac while going in to a petrol station, I decided to take a closer look at the Mig.

Initially I put it down to the road having a bit of a deep camber, in conjunction with the petrol station entrance having an equally severe opposite camber (front wheels hit the dip which caused the bottom of the front skirt to contact).

A quick visual showed the offside front shock to be leaking, and a bounce test all around pretty much confirmed that the shocks could do with replacing.
It always niggled me from day one that the car was a bit too much of an "armchair" in the ride stakes, although I put that down to it being just what it is (a big heavy motor).

Anyway, I paid £500 for the car originally knowing that the wishbones and windscreen needed doing (£50 for the windscreen), which means the car will end up standing me in £700 by the time both those jobs are done.

I got what I thought was a reasonable price for the shocks (£140 for the fronts, and £96 for the rears, including VAT), so this now pushes the cost of the car up to £940....not including what I will pay someone for changing the shocks.

The car itself books at £1200 in good condition, and I know it has always been serviced on time, with the next foreseeable expense (cambelt kit) being 25,000 miles away.

I guess the question is, how long does the 2.5 V6 and auto box realistically go on for before you start getting major issues?

If it's a case of them hitting the 200,000 mile mark with ease (with regular servicing of course), then it's probably worth spending the money.
However if that mileage is a lot lower then I'll probably get shot now and pull back what I paid.

Your opinions please?


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Title: Re: Life expectancy
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 21 May 2009, 13:31:32
Lol....and then go and buy another car which also needs the same or more service items doing on it?

Well, my old one was on 178K miles and was still running great.

There as good as the present and last owners  :y
Title: Re: Life expectancy
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 21 May 2009, 13:32:05
Ow yes, the price you paid for shocks was a bit high  :y
Title: Re: Life expectancy
Post by: mark.adams on 21 May 2009, 13:45:42
There's a reason why Omegas make good towcars and taxis. They go on and on, the parts are readily available and economic to do if you DIY.
Title: Re: Life expectancy
Post by: KillerWatt on 21 May 2009, 13:46:16
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Ow yes, the price you paid for shocks was a bit high  :y
I haven't bought the shocks yet Mark, that was the price CAF quoted which includes VAT.
Feel free to let me know where they can be got from cheaper if you like.
Title: Re: Life expectancy
Post by: albitz on 21 May 2009, 19:21:22
With regular oil changes (4-5,000 miles) the engines willeasily go past 200,000.I have seen a few ex taxis on fleabay with over 300,000 on them.Your gearbox is probably an AR25 and these arent that strong,if it gives trouble it can be replaced with the AR35 from the 3.0.you can pick them up from breakers on here for less than £100. :y
Title: Re: Life expectancy
Post by: TheBoy on 21 May 2009, 19:25:53
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With regular oil changes (4-5,000 miles) the engines willeasily go past 200,000.I have seen a few ex taxis on fleabay with over 300,000 on them.Your gearbox is probably an AR25 and these arent that strong,if it gives trouble it can be replaced with the AR35 from the 3.0.you can pick them up from breakers on here for less than £100. :y
ar25 is normally adequate for 2.5, if fluid changed etc
Title: Re: Life expectancy
Post by: albitz on 21 May 2009, 19:35:51
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With regular oil changes (4-5,000 miles) the engines willeasily go past 200,000.I have seen a few ex taxis on fleabay with over 300,000 on them.Your gearbox is probably an AR25 and these arent that strong,if it gives trouble it can be replaced with the AR35 from the 3.0.you can pick them up from breakers on here for less than £100. :y
ar25 is normally adequate for 2.5, if fluid changed etc
Mine wasnt,it packed up at 100k,although I bought the car at 95k and it had been "serviced" by stealer from new so that could explain it.
I did put another AR25 in though as it was £40 and I couldnt find an AR35 in a hurry,done 35k since and its been ok so far.
Title: Re: Life expectancy
Post by: MutantCav on 21 May 2009, 21:36:51
Gearbox service at 100k is not a bad idea, maybe even every 60k to be on the safe side i.e. replace gearbox oil and filter...
Title: Re: Life expectancy
Post by: big-o-bob on 21 May 2009, 22:06:00
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I guess the question is, how long does the 2.5 V6 and auto box realistically go on for before you start getting major issues?

If it's a case of them hitting the 200,000 mile mark with ease (with regular servicing of course), then it's probably worth spending the money.
However if that mileage is a lot lower then I'll probably get shot now and pull back what I paid.

I was thinking about getting shut of mine when it started needing money spent on it.  But I had a look to see what I would get for £1100 if I sold it....Unless i bought another omega, I would not get much of a car in comparison for the same money, and with any car at this sort of age/price, it is probably gonna want some money spent on it - unless you are lucky.

I would keep the omega mate...even if you do have to buy a second hand gearbox at some point it's still a lot of car for the money...just my opinion:y
Title: Re: Life expectancy
Post by: KillerWatt on 26 May 2009, 21:06:10
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Ow yes, the price you paid for shocks was a bit high  :y
You didn't bother to let me know where they could be got cheaper, but I took on board what you said anyway.
£41.27 each (+ VAT), genuine Vx, and I pick them up friday.

Ta for the heads up  :y