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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: TheBoy on 27 November 2007, 12:33:15
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I think I may need a new MCE :'(
Started watching (bloody phone kept ringing so didn't see it all the way through) a Hi Def version of Casino Royale last night. The thing runs at 95% CPU all the way through it. Amazingly, even during fast action scenes, it didn't drop frames, but did twice drop frames for now real reason (presumably Windows doing something else).
Running at 1920 x 1080 resolution, Nvidia 8500GT video, 3.2Ghz P4, 2Gb RAM. I need more performance :'(
I was thinking along the lines of a Intel 965 (coz they're cheap, yet still powerful) based board and a Core 2 Quad chip. Will that be able to handle my needs?
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Which HiDef version was this?
Have you considered a DSAT card to use BBC-HD?
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I think I may need a new MCE :'(
Started watching (bloody phone kept ringing so didn't see it all the way through) a Hi Def version of Casino Royale last night. The thing runs at 95% CPU all the way through it. Amazingly, even during fast action scenes, it didn't drop frames, but did twice drop frames for now real reason (presumably Windows doing something else).
Running at 1920 x 1080 resolution, Nvidia 8500GT video, 3.2Ghz P4, 2Gb RAM. I need more performance :'(
I was thinking along the lines of a Intel 965 (coz they're cheap, yet still powerful) based board and a Core 2 Quad chip. Will that be able to handle my needs?
if I'm not wrong the problem is neither the cpu nor the RAMs..Possibly theres disk access for some reason..This keep the CPU busy waiting.. a higher RPM disk or a SCSI (requiring a SCSI card also) may solve.. :-/
Edit : Can you see IRQ numbers higher than 15 on system IRQs ..If answer is yes SCSI can be an option ..Otherwise will share IRQ with another card and slow down..
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Which HiDef version was this?
BR obviously, as Casino Royale is distributed by Sony.
Have you considered a DSAT card to use BBC-HD?
No. Why on earth would I want BBC HD?
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I think I may need a new MCE :'(
Started watching (bloody phone kept ringing so didn't see it all the way through) a Hi Def version of Casino Royale last night. The thing runs at 95% CPU all the way through it. Amazingly, even during fast action scenes, it didn't drop frames, but did twice drop frames for now real reason (presumably Windows doing something else).
Running at 1920 x 1080 resolution, Nvidia 8500GT video, 3.2Ghz P4, 2Gb RAM. I need more performance :'(
I was thinking along the lines of a Intel 965 (coz they're cheap, yet still powerful) based board and a Core 2 Quad chip. Will that be able to handle my needs?
if I'm not wrong the problem is neither the cpu nor the RAMs..Possibly theres disk access for some reason..This keep the CPU busy waiting.. a higher RPM disk or a SCSI (requiring a SCSI card also) may solve.. :-/
Edit : Can you see IRQ numbers higher than 15 on system IRQs ..If answer is yes SCSI can be an option ..Otherwise will share IRQ with another card and slow down..
Disk access is fine and fast. You're right, the RAM is OK, though its DDR400, which is getting a bit slow by todays standards. Its purely CPU by look of it. Fortunately, it looks like it is truely multithreaded decoder (the P4 is hyperthreaded, and its 95% of each 'chip' used), so was hoping the extra cores and better efficiency of a Core 2 Quad would improve the playback....
Dear Santa...
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Which HiDef version was this?
BR obviously, as Casino Royale is distributed by Sony.
Have you considered a DSAT card to use BBC-HD?
No. Why on earth would I want BBC HD?
Cos then you could watch all the repeats
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Which HiDef version was this?
BR obviously, as Casino Royale is distributed by Sony.
Have you considered a DSAT card to use BBC-HD?
No. Why on earth would I want BBC HD?
Cos then you could watch all the repeats
Of Knob-bloody-Enders? Rather have a date with Julian Clary.
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Which HiDef version was this?
BR obviously, as Casino Royale is distributed by Sony.
Have you considered a DSAT card to use BBC-HD?
No. Why on earth would I want BBC HD?
Cos then you could watch all the repeats
Of Knob-bloody-Enders? Rather have a date with Julian Clary.
Hmmm, in pink ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Which HiDef version was this?
BR obviously, as Casino Royale is distributed by Sony.
Have you considered a DSAT card to use BBC-HD?
No. Why on earth would I want BBC HD?
Is Top Gear on it?
No Knobenders!
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Which HiDef version was this?
BR obviously, as Casino Royale is distributed by Sony.
Have you considered a DSAT card to use BBC-HD?
No. Why on earth would I want BBC HD?
Is Top Gear on it?
No Knobenders!
I think we all know BBC would not pay to transmit decent programmes such as Top Gear in HD
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Which HiDef version was this?
BR obviously, as Casino Royale is distributed by Sony.
Have you considered a DSAT card to use BBC-HD?
No. Why on earth would I want BBC HD?
Cos then you could watch all the repeats
Of Knob-bloody-Enders? Rather have a date with Julian Clary.
No HD Knobenders
The date can be arranged ;D
How about Planet Earth?
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Agree, some of the better documentaries that the BBC will soon stop making would be a bonus, but not enough of a reason to stick a dirty great serving plate on the front of my house...
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You could always get a proper BR player ...like the PS3 ;)
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So what was the source - so we have an idea what decoding is required?
MPEG4, MPEG2 ??
Some video cards AFAIR can carry out MPEG decoding
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I think I may need a new MCE :'(
Started watching (bloody phone kept ringing so didn't see it all the way through) a Hi Def version of Casino Royale last night. The thing runs at 95% CPU all the way through it. Amazingly, even during fast action scenes, it didn't drop frames, but did twice drop frames for now real reason (presumably Windows doing something else).
Running at 1920 x 1080 resolution, Nvidia 8500GT video, 3.2Ghz P4, 2Gb RAM. I need more performance :'(
I was thinking along the lines of a Intel 965 (coz they're cheap, yet still powerful) based board and a Core 2 Quad chip. Will that be able to handle my needs?
if I'm not wrong the problem is neither the cpu nor the RAMs..Possibly theres disk access for some reason..This keep the CPU busy waiting.. a higher RPM disk or a SCSI (requiring a SCSI card also) may solve.. :-/
Edit : Can you see IRQ numbers higher than 15 on system IRQs ..If answer is yes SCSI can be an option ..Otherwise will share IRQ with another card and slow down..
Disk access is fine and fast. You're right, the RAM is OK, though its DDR400, which is getting a bit slow by todays standards. Its purely CPU by look of it. Fortunately, it looks like it is truely multithreaded decoder (the P4 is hyperthreaded, and its 95% of each 'chip' used), so was hoping the extra cores and better efficiency of a Core 2 Quad would improve the playback....
Dear Santa...
% 95 load :o really interesting...only one thing can make a 3.2 CPU this much load..Rendering heavily and the channel for the RAMS or channel to VGA is slow keeping the CPU busy..I see Xeon servers with many SCSI disks and heavy queries from bank branches not reaching even % 40 load..
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You could always get a proper BR player ...like the PS3 ;)
Which will be stupidly restrictive. No, I'll keep the MCE.
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So what was the source - so we have an idea what decoding is required?
MPEG4, MPEG2 ??
Some video cards AFAIR can carry out MPEG decoding
h264 from a BR disc
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% 95 load :o really interesting...only one thing can make a 3.2 CPU this much load..Rendering heavily and the channel for the RAMS or channel to VGA is slow keeping the CPU busy..I see Xeon servers with many SCSI disks and heavy queries from bank branches not reaching even % 40 load..
But I doubt many Xeons are doing video decoding. SQL queries, by their nature, tend to be bursty. Video stuff is full on all the time.
The VGA card is midrange - Nvidia 8500GT - so not the best, but no issues playing normal DVDs (which are upscaled to hidef, as the panel res is 1920x1080). So I reckon thats capable. The RAM is old - DDR400 - so limiting slightly, but should still have the throughput required. Disk access is not that heavy whilst playing (and having 2G RAM pretty much prevents paging).
The old OOF server was a 2.6 or 2.8 P4 (can't remember) - that spent most of its idle life around the 40% mark across 'both CPUs' (hyperthreaded), increasing dramtically during busy periods. Its very easy to max out a P4 nowadays - they are quite an old chip now.
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So what was the source - so we have an idea what decoding is required?
MPEG4, MPEG2 ??
Some video cards AFAIR can carry out MPEG decoding
h264 from a BR disc
So you have the new drive - can I have it?
H264 does require a lot of hp to decode, your spec does seem enough but obviusly not.
I have tried HD H264s on mine and I get sync issues, but I only have a P4 2.4.
Is it worth having a hardware decoder? Like a H264 supporting graphics card?
Appears NVidia support this for a start.
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Your card has hardware decoding have a read of this
http://forums.nvidia.com/lofiversion/index.php?t43593.html
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Your card has hardware decoding have a read of this
http://forums.nvidia.com/lofiversion/index.php?t43593.html
I was aware that the card had the ability to decode, but its finding a decoder that will offload. Nvidia Purevideo can, but is poor with PAL, so I haven't installed since last rebuild. My version of PowerDVD is too old for HD, but if it works, I'll happily upgrade. Actually, I think for MCE, because it only uses the decoder and not the interface, the trial will work indefinately :-X
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you have pm
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you have pm
Likewise!