Omega Owners Forum

Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: stuthespread on 26 June 2009, 09:21:03

Title: 3.0 cams
Post by: stuthespread on 26 June 2009, 09:21:03
would it be worth swapping out the cams if the engine has only done 60000 miles,or would it maybe compromise the engine if they were replaced with cams from a high miler?presuming of course that any 3.0 being broken would be high milage.
Title: Re: 3.0 cams
Post by: MutantCav on 26 June 2009, 09:28:59
I wouldnt have said personally that the cams would be one of the items that would have a massive wear and negative effect from high milage...
Title: Re: 3.0 cams
Post by: stuthespread on 26 June 2009, 09:34:02
but they do wear out,how could you tell the good from the bad without fitting first?
Title: Re: 3.0 cams
Post by: markey mark on 26 June 2009, 10:13:43
of all the engines i have stripped never seen any wear on cams at all i even sold a set out of a siezed engine and the car give over 200bhp on rollers  :y
Title: Re: 3.0 cams
Post by: deviator on 26 June 2009, 10:22:06
The only real wear is caused by an oil feed problem and you would feel grooves in the camshaft. There is often a bit of wear on the lobes, that is normal - as long as it still feels smooth.
Title: Re: 3.0 cams
Post by: stuthespread on 26 June 2009, 10:33:59
so what sort of realistic gain would i achieve by swapping them out?and what would be involved(parts needed etc)
Title: Re: 3.0 cams
Post by: stuthespread on 26 June 2009, 10:34:41
you can tell i'm not at work today :)
Title: Re: 3.0 cams
Post by: deviator on 26 June 2009, 13:41:52
I don't know about the gains, I thought it just swapped BHP for torque or vice-versa.

No parts (except cams) needed.

Tools however are a different matter, torx bits (int & ext), cam lock off kit, T26 socket (or 16mm double hex), pipe clip pliers, torque wrench spring to mind.

ADDITION
You will need some gasket sealant for the rocker gaskets. If you are replacing use only VX genuine ones, pat parts are awful.
Title: Re: 3.0 cams
Post by: ngrainqey on 26 June 2009, 17:27:25
think the 3.0 cams add 12bhp to the 2.5
Title: Re: 3.0 cams
Post by: Omega6pot on 26 June 2009, 17:41:04
i have two sets of them here mate if your interested? £105 posted
Title: Re: 3.0 cams
Post by: MutantCav on 26 June 2009, 20:21:05
Adds approx 18-20BHP and some torque too...as Markey says, never seen any appreciable wear on any 3.0 cams I have ever seen...just a matter of stripping it down to replace the middle inlet cams with the 3.0 ones and putting it back together including of course retiming (and the timing must be spot on!)
Title: Re: 3.0 cams
Post by: Martin_1962 on 26 June 2009, 22:39:11
Work well on 2.6 as well :y
Title: Re: 3.0 cams
Post by: hotel21 on 26 June 2009, 22:56:53
Quote
but they do wear out,how could you tell the good from the bad without fitting first?

Would need to use a micrometer to get the cam dimensions, I would think.

The followers are of a larger diameter than the cam lobe is wide so there would be no appreciable wear ridge on the cam itself to guage it by.
Title: Re: 3.0 cams
Post by: The Red Baron on 26 June 2009, 23:03:38
quick question H21, are the followers the same on 2.5 & 3.0l.  :-?
Title: Re: 3.0 cams
Post by: 924boy on 26 June 2009, 23:07:04
are there any other parts from a 3.0 worth putting on a 2.5 to improve power apart from the cams?
Title: Re: 3.0 cams
Post by: ngrainqey on 27 June 2009, 12:07:45
...the engine as a whole? sorry couldn't resist :P
Title: Re: 3.0 cams
Post by: 924boy on 27 June 2009, 12:11:49
Quote
...the engine as a whole? sorry couldn't resist :P

nice idea :-/... anything less extreme??
Title: Re: 3.0 cams
Post by: Martin_1962 on 27 June 2009, 12:20:16
Quote
are there any other parts from a 3.0 worth putting on a 2.5 to improve power apart from the cams?


Inlet divider then file ports to match
Title: Re: 3.0 cams
Post by: 924boy on 27 June 2009, 12:22:35
sounds more like it  :y
difficult to do? what sorta gains?
Title: Re: 3.0 cams
Post by: ngrainqey on 27 June 2009, 15:30:50
easy as pi$$ to do, might have still got a 3.0 manifold gasket (the thick plastic bit that everybody calls the intake divider/lower intake manifold) lol
Title: Re: 3.0 cams
Post by: i260 on 28 June 2009, 20:15:08
Quote
Work well on 2.6 as well :y

Get it on the rolling road and share with us!!
Title: Re: 3.0 cams
Post by: 924boy on 28 June 2009, 21:07:53
Quote
easy as pi$$ to do, might have still got a 3.0 manifold gasket (the thick plastic bit that everybody calls the intake divider/lower intake manifold) lol

Cheers bud. Have got a complete 3.0 engine to use bits off!  :y