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Title: big problem!!!!
Post by: rikki_essex on 03 July 2009, 05:46:14
Last night i was on my way out and got to a local petrol station and a bloke told me i had water coming from the engine so i moved it to the side then watch as it emptied itself onto the floor. Im assuming it was the coolant as it was a pinkish red but it seemed to be comingfrom the bottom of the engine and from around one of the pullies. Also i noticed that it looked like one of pullies was bent and although the belt was still on didnt look likeit would stay there so for the next half hour it just kept coming out and there was nothing i could do. any suggestion as i have got to get it recovered today and dont know what to do from there? oh and also when this was do this i was making a very funny noise
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Post by: Elite Pete on 03 July 2009, 06:31:33
Sounds to me like the water pump
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Post by: samrey4u on 03 July 2009, 06:34:51
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Sounds to me like the water pump
just been looking on e bay water pumps brand new around 23 quid :y
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Post by: MikeDundee on 03 July 2009, 06:52:05
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Sounds to me like the water pump

That's what I thought, but being the novice I am, did'nt want to post and get slagged off ;D ;D
Title: Re: big problem!!!!
Post by: rikki_essex on 03 July 2009, 07:14:48
ok so what would be the next step be then? would it cause any problems with the pullies or is that me just looking for faults that aint there. also would a water pump make a funny noise.
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Post by: Welung666 on 03 July 2009, 07:25:13
It's most likely the bearings have failed in the water pump causing the shaft to drop off centre, it would then leak heavily around the shaft.
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Post by: rikki_essex on 03 July 2009, 07:29:03
so does that  mean just bolt on a new water pump?
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Post by: samrey4u on 03 July 2009, 08:11:32
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so does that  mean just bolt on a new water pump?
i would say so mate  :y
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Post by: rikki_essex on 03 July 2009, 08:14:34
also how much coolant should i put in and how big of a job is a new water pump
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Post by: TheBoy on 03 July 2009, 08:16:26
If it seems to be leaking from front of engine, waterpump is most likely culprit.  Other possibilities are a leak in the V (stat, oil cooler etc), but that tends to leak down the back, or from the throttle bodies (easily seen)
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Post by: TheBoy on 03 July 2009, 08:18:15
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also how much coolant should i put in and how big of a job is a new water pump
If you have the cambelt DVD, you'll see its not too bad.  Quite a lot of stuff needs to be removed to get to it.

System takes less than 10l of antifreeze, so buy a 5l bottle of Vauxhall Red from delaer, and mix 50:50 - that will be more than enough
Title: Re: big problem!!!!
Post by: rikki_essex on 03 July 2009, 08:33:40
if its was the water pump would or could it have cause any other problems? When i moved it into the parking space and turned it off the was still half the coolant left in the tank that drained through.
Title: Re: big problem!!!!
Post by: TheBoy on 03 July 2009, 08:39:17
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if its was the water pump would or could it have cause any other problems? When i moved it into the parking space and turned it off the was still half the coolant left in the tank that drained through.
Impossible to say until your stripped it and removed it.  If the waterpump has exploded, then there may be bits of it running around the cooling system.

If the aux belt looks in tack, then its unlikely to have damaged cambelt etc, though obviously check the condition (and timing if poss) of it when you have it stripped down.

If it is the waterpump bearing that have failed, I think you are likely to be OK (but impossible to say until state of pump can be seen) :)
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Post by: rikki_essex on 03 July 2009, 08:40:55
brilliant well ill have to get them to look into it.
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Post by: rikki_essex on 03 July 2009, 09:00:14
right just spoke to my dad and he has been taking to his mate that works for vauxhall he has just read up and said that its 2.9 hours labour and that if the cam belt has got any water on it that should be changed aswell. does that sound about right
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Post by: rikki_essex on 03 July 2009, 11:25:18
?
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Post by: Welung666 on 03 July 2009, 11:36:42
I don't see why the cam belt should be changed if it's wet???? It gets wet when driving in the rain! How very odd!!!

As long as the cam belt hasn't moved and looks OK it doesn't need to be touched.
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Post by: Elite Pete on 03 July 2009, 11:50:28
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right just spoke to my dad and he has been taking to his mate that works for vauxhall he has just read up and said that its 2.9 hours labour and that if the cam belt has got any water on it that should be changed aswell. does that sound about right
If the cambelt is not far off needing a change I would do it at the same time as you have to removed the same bit to get at the cambelt and waterpump
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Post by: jonathanh on 03 July 2009, 16:03:02
2.9 hours for a water pump - he having a laugh!!!  1.5 hours tops including a tea break.

He's thiking it is a 4 pot where the cambelt drives the water pump.  it does not on the V6.  water will not damage a cambelt!!!

however, seconding earlier advice, if your cambelt is due for a change, then do it now as most of the same bits need to come off
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Post by: rikki_essex on 03 July 2009, 22:03:56
is there any one near me that would want the job? as tonight i bought a little run around to get me about for a bit and im just gonna park it up and save the money to get the job done but trust vx any more.