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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Del Boy on 18 July 2009, 10:51:23
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How easy would it be to do on a 2.2 (that rhymes), a head gasket, waterpump and cambelt, really don't fancy doing it myself to be honest, (time, patience) and something could go wrong.
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How easy would it be to do on a 2.2 (that rhymes), a head gasket, waterpump and cambelt, really don't fancy doing it myself to be honest, (time, patience) and something could go wrong.
As you are doing the HG Del, the rest is very straightforward and accessible. :y :y :y
The cam belt has to come off to take the head off. ;) ;)
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Don't be daunted by it. Be methodical, and take your time :y
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Hmm i'll think about it ;D
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Lizzie you said you'll help if I do end up getting this car, how confident are you that we could do all this?
Wanted to ask how would I get the head skimmed if it needed it without taking to a garage?
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Lizzie you said you'll help if I do end up getting this car, how confident are you that we could do all this?
Wanted to ask how would I get the head skimmed if it needed it without taking to a garage?
Apart from the head skimming Del, which I understand is a skilled job, the rest is straightforward if you get all the parts, gaskets, and any sealant* we need ;) ;).
*Oh yes, plus new head bolts!!
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That does give me confidence :y
If the heads need skimming thats the bit that is worrying me to be honest.
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Lizzie you said you'll help if I do end up getting this car, how confident are you that we could do all this?
Wanted to ask how would I get the head skimmed if it needed it without taking to a garage?
Apart from the head skimming Del, which I understand is a skilled job, the rest is straightforward if you get all the parts, gaskets, and any sealant* we need ;) ;).
*Oh yes, plus new head bolts!!
Yeah they come with the HG kit which I thought was £47 but it's £41 which made me happier :y
So parts needed would be:
Cambelt Kit - Ebay
Water Pump - Ebay
Head gasket & new bolts - Ebay
Tax - £118.25 (ouch!)
Oil filter - £1.29 - Vaux
And oil but my trade card turned up :y
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That does give me confidence :y
If the heads need skimming thats the bit that is worrying me to be honest.
In truth I have yet to find a head that needs skimming when I have had previous heads off, as the bolts have been properly torqued. It is only if a cowboy has tightened down the head and warped it, or it has become very excessively overheated, that a head of that relatively young age should require skimming in my humble opinion. ;) ;)
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Lizzie you said you'll help if I do end up getting this car, how confident are you that we could do all this?
Wanted to ask how would I get the head skimmed if it needed it without taking to a garage?
Apart from the head skimming Del, which I understand is a skilled job, the rest is straightforward if you get all the parts, gaskets, and any sealant* we need ;) ;).
*Oh yes, plus new head bolts!!
Yeah they come with the HG kit which I thought was £47 but it's £41 which made me happier :y
So parts needed would be:
Cambelt Kit - Ebay
Water Pump - Ebay
Head gasket & new bolts - Ebay
Tax - £118.25 (ouch!)
Oil filter - £1.29 - Vaux
And oil but my trade card turned up :y
Just one question we need to answer is on these Omega engines do you need sealant (ie we used to use red hematite) for the HG? :-/ :-/
PS You will need enough Vx anti freeze to refill the system with, PLUS cam cover gasket and black sealant. :D :D ;)
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Lizzie you said you'll help if I do end up getting this car, how confident are you that we could do all this?
Wanted to ask how would I get the head skimmed if it needed it without taking to a garage?
Apart from the head skimming Del, which I understand is a skilled job, the rest is straightforward if you get all the parts, gaskets, and any sealant* we need ;) ;).
*Oh yes, plus new head bolts!!
Yeah they come with the HG kit which I thought was £47 but it's £41 which made me happier :y
So parts needed would be:
Cambelt Kit - Ebay
Water Pump - Ebay
Head gasket & new bolts - Ebay
Tax - £118.25 (ouch!)
Oil filter - £1.29 - Vaux
And oil but my trade card turned up :y
Just one question we need to answer is on these Omega engines do you need sealant (ie we used to use red hematite) for the HG? :-/ :-/
PS You will need enough Vx anti freeze to refill the system with, PLUS cam cover gasket and black sealant. :D :D ;)
And that ;D
Need the car first too, can't get anyone here to come as mrs. is working but it's driving it 90 miles with knackered HG.
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Lizzie you said you'll help if I do end up getting this car, how confident are you that we could do all this?
Wanted to ask how would I get the head skimmed if it needed it without taking to a garage?
Apart from the head skimming Del, which I understand is a skilled job, the rest is straightforward if you get all the parts, gaskets, and any sealant* we need ;) ;).
*Oh yes, plus new head bolts!!
Yeah they come with the HG kit which I thought was £47 but it's £41 which made me happier :y
So parts needed would be:
Cambelt Kit - Ebay
Water Pump - Ebay
Head gasket & new bolts - Ebay
Tax - £118.25 (ouch!)
Oil filter - £1.29 - Vaux
And oil but my trade card turned up :y
Just one question we need to answer is on these Omega engines do you need sealant (ie we used to use red hematite) for the HG? :-/ :-/
PS You will need enough Vx anti freeze to refill the system with, PLUS cam cover gasket and black sealant. :D :D ;)
And that ;D
Need the car first too, can't get anyone here to come as mrs. is working but it's driving it 90 miles with knackered HG.
Can you get hold of a car transporter trailer? :-?
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Lizzie you said you'll help if I do end up getting this car, how confident are you that we could do all this?
Wanted to ask how would I get the head skimmed if it needed it without taking to a garage?
Apart from the head skimming Del, which I understand is a skilled job, the rest is straightforward if you get all the parts, gaskets, and any sealant* we need ;) ;).
*Oh yes, plus new head bolts!!
Yeah they come with the HG kit which I thought was £47 but it's £41 which made me happier :y
So parts needed would be:
Cambelt Kit - Ebay
Water Pump - Ebay
Head gasket & new bolts - Ebay
Tax - £118.25 (ouch!)
Oil filter - £1.29 - Vaux
And oil but my trade card turned up :y
Just one question we need to answer is on these Omega engines do you need sealant (ie we used to use red hematite) for the HG? :-/ :-/
PS You will need enough Vx anti freeze to refill the system with, PLUS cam cover gasket and black sealant. :D :D ;)
And that ;D
Need the car first too, can't get anyone here to come as mrs. is working but it's driving it 90 miles with knackered HG.
Can you get hold of a car transporter trailer? :-?
Only if I want to pay and I don't ;D :-/
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..............or, if you like, we could go together to pick it up WITH all the necessary parts, and if it requires fixing on the way back so be it! We'll work on the car in a layby if necessary! ;) ;) It wouldn't be the first car I've fixed at the side of the road!! ::) ::)
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..............or, if you like, we could go together to pick it up WITH all the necessary parts, and if it requires fixing on the way back so be it! We'll work on the car in a layby if necessary! ;) ;) It wouldn't be the first car I've fixed at the side of the road!! ::) ::)
Thats an extremly tempting offer but wouldn't be ble to get the parts here by Monday which is when he needs the car gone by :'(
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Unless heaters on all the way, windows down, and lots of water stops :-/
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..............or, if you like, we could go together to pick it up WITH all the necessary parts, and if it requires fixing on the way back so be it! We'll work on the car in a layby if necessary! ;) ;) It wouldn't be the first car I've fixed at the side of the road!! ::) ::)
Thats an extremly tempting offer but wouldn't be ble to get the parts here by Monday which is when he needs the car gone by :'(
Are you a gambler then Del? :D :D ;) ;) ;) Would you be prepared to risk driving it back with an escort? ;)
How certain are you it is really the HG?
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..............or, if you like, we could go together to pick it up WITH all the necessary parts, and if it requires fixing on the way back so be it! We'll work on the car in a layby if necessary! ;) ;) It wouldn't be the first car I've fixed at the side of the road!! ::) ::)
Thats an extremly tempting offer but wouldn't be ble to get the parts here by Monday which is when he needs the car gone by :'(
Are you a gambler then Del? :D :D ;) ;) ;) Would you be prepared to risk driving it back with an escort? ;)
How certain are you it is really the HG?
99.9999%
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..............or, if you like, we could go together to pick it up WITH all the necessary parts, and if it requires fixing on the way back so be it! We'll work on the car in a layby if necessary! ;) ;) It wouldn't be the first car I've fixed at the side of the road!! ::) ::)
Thats an extremly tempting offer but wouldn't be ble to get the parts here by Monday which is when he needs the car gone by :'(
Are you a gambler then Del? :D :D ;) ;) ;) Would you be prepared to risk driving it back with an escort? ;)
How certain are you it is really the HG?
99.9999%
Oh!! :( :(
Can the chap at the other end park it up somewhere safe for you to collect a day or two later? :-/ :-/
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Just one question we need to answer is on these Omega engines do you need sealant (ie we used to use red hematite) for the HG? :-/ :-/
Noooooooo! :y
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Just one question we need to answer is on these Omega engines do you need sealant (ie we used to use red hematite) for the HG? :-/ :-/
Noooooooo! :y
Thanks James :y :y :y So it is a metal to gasket to metal only sandwich? :-?
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No he can't but i'm sure with water and you as my lovely escort we could do it you think?
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No he can't but i'm sure with water and you as my lovely escort we could do it you think?
Well all I can say is we can give it a try, taking our tools and water to do whatever is necessary. It is always a gamble though ;) ;)
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Where is this car based? :-/
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No he can't but i'm sure with water and you as my lovely escort we could do it you think?
Well all I can say is we can give it a try, taking our tools and water to do whatever is necessary. It is always a gamble though ;) ;)
Yeah, I'll have a chat with Sue and she what she reckons get back to you in a little while via PM :y :y
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Ok :y :y
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Just one question we need to answer is on these Omega engines do you need sealant (ie we used to use red hematite) for the HG? :-/ :-/
Noooooooo! :y
Thanks James :y :y :y So it is a metal to gasket to metal only sandwich? :-?
Yes - I urge you to fit the HG Dry... :y
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Just one question we need to answer is on these Omega engines do you need sealant (ie we used to use red hematite) for the HG? :-/ :-/
Noooooooo! :y
Thanks James :y :y :y So it is a metal to gasket to metal only sandwich? :-?
Yes - I urge you to fit the HG Dry... :y
Will do James! :D :D :y :y
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Where is this car based? :-/
Hertfordshire
At AndyOmegaV6's house.
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Where is this car based? :-/
Hertfordshire
At AndyOmegaV6's house.
Well that's good, all motorway then where, God willing and the right time of day, you can keep a good airflow going over the engine doing a steady 50. ;) ;)
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Yeah defiantley, will ring Sue in a minute. Guys can I ask could this actually be a cracked cylinder head and not a head gasket? Syptoms are lumpy idle EML light, although it isn't lumpy when driving along but EML does stay lit, also a lot of cream in oil filler cap and some cream in dipstick. Also the pipes are rock hard (not squeezable). Could it be a cylinder head which is 10x more costly than a head gasket??
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You won't tell until you pull it off....
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You won't tell until you pull it off....
Is it more likely to be just a HG though?
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You won't tell until you pull it off....
Is it more likely to be just a HG though?
Depends on the root cause of the failure :D
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You won't tell until you pull it off....
Is it more likely to be just a HG though?
Depends on the root cause of the failure :D
It's had a new Radiator, god i'm so unsure on this one :-/
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You won't tell until you pull it off....
Is it more likely to be just a HG though?
Depends on the root cause of the failure :D
It's had a new Radiator, god i'm so unsure on this one :-/
Do you know why it had a new radiator Del? :-?
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HG's don't just "go" -
It's as a result of
- poor servicing, weak coolant mix
- overheating
You will be taking a gamble so pay accordingly....
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You won't tell until you pull it off....
Is it more likely to be just a HG though?
Depends on the root cause of the failure :D
It's had a new Radiator, god i'm so unsure on this one :-/
Do you know why it had a new radiator Del? :-?
No. It does drive fine to be honest apart from that lumpy idle mind you :-/
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HG's don't just "go" -
It's as a result of
- poor servicing, weak coolant mix
- overheating
You will be taking a gamble so pay accordingly....
550 quid 2002 '52' Sport well it's this one, is it a good price do you think? Persoanlly I think it is but want other opinions. http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1247416896
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Saloon or Estate?
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Saloon.
Has the 17" alloys, recaro's, silver trim, heated seats, cd player etc. Nice MV6 front bumper, spoiler.
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Would a pressure test determine whether it's a crack in the cylinder head or the head gasket, was just reading about it on the net and they said get a pressure test done.
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If it was a cracked cylinder head and not a head gasket, would you lose power?
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If it was a cracked cylinder head and not a head gasket, would you lose power?
Someone said oil in coolant is cylinder head crack, and water in oil is HG faliure thats not right is it?
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Shine a powerful little torch down the plug holes, and you can see the piston crowns. Look for a wet one. Assuming no oil in plugwells before removing plugs this will be coolant that has leaked past a fire-ring. Check pot 4 especially.
If there was oil in the plugwells and you think the wetness might be just oil, wrap/tape a bit of tissue to a long stick and dip it down there to examine in daylight.
HTH,
Pete
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See if I get it home and pull it all apart and it's not a HG it's a cylinder head crack then it's a waste of money time and effort really :-/ :-/
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Also this: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=310119036943
Does that give you every gasket?
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See if I get it home and pull it all apart and it's not a HG it's a cylinder head crack then it's a waste of money time and effort really :-/ :-/
Not really, heads are cheap enough...
Also, when you have the head off, make sure you re-lap all the valves and fit new stem seals - takes more time, but silly not to :y
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See if I get it home and pull it all apart and it's not a HG it's a cylinder head crack then it's a waste of money time and effort really :-/ :-/
Not really, heads are cheap enough...
Also, when you have the head off, make sure you re-lap all the valves and fit new stem seals - takes more time, but silly not to :y
Why's that mate?
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Because it's acessible - it's silly not to at that time.... especially if it's a keeper....
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Because it's acessible - it's silly not to at that time.... especially if it's a keeper....
Not a keeper but may do them, what I will be doing if I get it, (with Lizzie's help Cambelt, water pump, oil & filter change full collant change, head gasket which gives me all the other gaskets so them too, may do spark plugs and leads with a new air filter, new MOT and 6 months tax) may get this now to be honest as welung666 has put my mind to rest about cracked cylinder head :y
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welung666 has put my mind to rest about cracked cylinder head :y
While I agree a head gasket is the most likely cause - don't ever have your "mind at rest" when buying a project car.
Only ever spend such an amount that, you could afford to live without if it goes wrong, and, could make back breaking it should the worst occur :y
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welung666 has put my mind to rest about cracked cylinder head :y
While I agree a head gasket is the most likely cause - don't ever have your "mind at rest" when buying a project car.
Only ever spend such an amount that, you could afford to live without if it goes wrong, and, could make back breaking it should the worst occur :y
Fair point mate :y